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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:04 PM
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Former Marine Captain Resigns in Protest of Afghanistan War
Former Marine Captain Resigns in Protest of Afghanistan War

Top civilian in Southern province argues we're exacerbating the problem we're supposedly there to solve.

by Glenn Greenwald

Matthew Hoh, a former Marine captain with combat experience in Iraq, resigned last month from his position with the Foreign Service, where he was the the senior U.S. civilian in the Taliban-dominated Southern Afghanistan province of Zabul, because he became convinced that our war in that country will not only inevitably fail, but is fueling the very insurgency we are trying to defeat. Hoh's resignation is remarkable because it entails the sort of career sacrifice in the name of principle that has been so rare over the last decade, but even more so because of the extraordinary four-page letter (.pdf) he wrote explaining his reasoning.

Hoh's letter should be read in its entirety, but I want to highlight one part. He begins by noting that "next fall, the United States' occupation will equal in length the Soviet Union's own physical involvement in Afghanistan," and contends that our unwanted occupation combined with our support for a deeply corrupt government "reminds horribly of our involvement in South Vietnam." He then explains that most of the people we are fighting are not loyal to the Taliban or driven by any other nefarious aim, but instead are driven principally by resistance to the presence of foreign troops in their provinces and villages (click on image to enlarge):



How long are we going to continue to do this? We invade and occupy a country, and then label as "insurgents" or even "terrorists" the people in that country who fight against our invasion and occupation. With the most circular logic imaginable, we then insist that we must remain in order to defeat the "insurgents" and "terrorists" -- largely composed of people whose only cause for fighting is our presence in their country. All the while, we clearly exacerbate the very problem we are allegedly attempting to address -- Terrorism -- by predictably and inevitably increasing anti-American anger and hatred through our occupation, which, no matter the strategy, inevitably entails our killing innocent civilians. Indeed, does Hoh's description of what drives the insurgency -- anger "against the presence of foreign soldiers" -- permit the conclusion that that's all going to be placated with a shift to a kind and gentle counter-insurgency strategy?

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http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/10/27-7
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:06 PM
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1. Rec ... and this quote:
"He then explains that most of the people we are fighting are not loyal to the Taliban or driven by any other nefarious aim, but instead are driven principally by resistance to the presence of foreign troops in their provinces and villages."
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:16 PM
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5. Gee, what a shock.
How many hundreds of years have they done this with every outside occupier?

I guess that some people making our military decisions never took history classes during their lifetime. The last few days sure haven't made me any less certain that we need to get the hell out of there while we still can. I think that we've gone from being the hunter to being the hunted.

http://www.gandhara.com.au/afghan_table.html

http://costofwar.com/

:banghead:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:08 PM
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2. Semper Fidelis. I think so. K&R
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 02:08 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:10 PM
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3. Why didn't he do that shit when Bush was President? Bush is the one who fucked it up.
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 02:11 PM by xultar
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:12 PM
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4. Good question?
But the man has a right to do and say what he wants.
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RedRubberBall Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:21 PM
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7. Plus he is correct morally
Obama is perpetuating an immoral action
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:50 PM
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8. Says the troll.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:20 PM
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6. does that really matter?
i could ask the same of you; what was your stance regarding the war when shithead was in office, and what has changed that makes you less critical of the war today?
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 09:11 PM
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9. Good question
What is this historical amnesia that has people thinking all wars and other aggressive actions by this country began with Bush-Cheney?
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