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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:38 PM
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Photography and Aviation buffs may find this photo interesting. I think it's beautiful
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:42 PM
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1. It IS beautiful!
Thanks for sharing...

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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:45 PM
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3. Glad you liked it, Peggy. n/t
:-)
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:44 PM
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2. Can SOMEONE explain why SOMEONE would unrec this post?
That's a great pic and to the usurper, BITE ME!
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:47 PM
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4. Please don't.
I'm glad you liked it. People are free to rec or unrec (or neither) this as they see fit with no need for explanation.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:39 PM
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25. Here's a hug - you are good peeps...
:pals:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:42 PM
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27. Aw, thanks man!
:toast: Backatya!

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:47 PM
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5. because they are an asshole who has an anonymous "piss on poster" button
:grr:

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:48 PM
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7. some are unrecing everything.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:36 AM
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38. Probably Because It's Lounge Material And This Ain't The Lounge.
Personally, I don't care and wouldn't feel the need to unrec it for such a reason. Are there people here who would? Probably. You'd be amazed at the petty reasons as to why someone unrecs something.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 08:55 PM
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47. Who CARES? What possible difference could it make to know the why or who?
The question of "why and "who" would dare unrec this or that thread is exponentially more annoying that the fact that people might unrec something. Get over it.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:47 PM
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6. nice!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:48 PM
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8. K & R !!!
Way cool!!!

:kick:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:50 PM
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9. beautiful and AWFULL, at the same time. i'm not sure if this can be defined...
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:50 PM
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10. thank you. it is lovely.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:52 PM
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11. I love it.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:52 PM
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12. About an hour of exposure.
Judging from the arcs of the stars. B-)

--imm
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:56 PM
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13. I was going to ask, so I'm glad you said so.
Not having any kind of deep knowledge of the art, I was curious how long of an exposure that was.

Is that technically called a "time lapse" shot or is time lapse photography always referring to a sequence of closely shot stills made into a film?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:10 PM
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18. Time lapse is a series of pictures, yes.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 07:52 AM
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32. not time lapse...
Probably just a Bulb exposure on a tripod. Shutter stays open for 'an hour' or so. Time lapse would be single frames taken at intervals... say every second or 10 seconds.

:)


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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:57 AM
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33. I understand how the pic was made....
I was curious of the common name for that technique.

Thanks though!

:)
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:32 PM
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41. common name would be
timed exposure. No big whoop. Stars look excellent that way though...

:)



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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:24 AM
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35. On second thought...
I want to amend that to 2+ hours. I was reading the sky as a 12 hour clock, when it's really a 24 hour clock. Remember, a clock keeps track of the sun's position in the sky.

Now the center of the rotation of stars, that should be Polaris, the North Star. So the sun is setting at the beginning of the exposure -- that's west.

I see that others have tackled the time lapse question. This is just a long exposure. I would apply that to anything longer than 1/15 second. That is, longer than what can be done "hand held." (Though, as a photographer, I recommend a tripod whenever possible, no matter what the exposure. :))

--imm
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:35 AM
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37. Thanks.
I've always loved these kinds of shots - we all have seen them of highways at night for instance, where the constant stream of car headlights makes a ribbon of light.

I always thought there was another name for the technique, but "long exposure" is perfectly appropriate, obviously.

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 08:06 PM
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45. I agree with the 2 hours for the stars; I think the setting sun is an earlier exposure
because the clouds in the sunset are stationary, and there's no way they'd stay that still for 2 hours (and the light of the sun and twilit sky would show up as pure white for an hours-long exposure). So I think this is a combination of a relatively short exposure at sunset to get the sun and clouds, and then a 2 hour exposure from some time later when the sky is properly dark (and, I'd guess, cloud free), so that only the aircraft lights and stars show up (and no moon).
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 08:16 PM
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46. Longer, And Some Shopping
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 08:16 PM by NashVegas
Not that that detracts from it, it's still damn cool. I just don't the lens could have been left open that long without entirely over-exposing, where this was set. I think you'd have to go far, far away from any place where there's other light.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:57 PM
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14. Absolutely Incredible!!! Glad you posted this! n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:58 PM
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15. Beautiful
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:00 PM
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16. knr thanks nt
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:09 PM
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17. I guess I didn't realize/remember that airplanes have strobe lights on landing.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:22 PM
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20. The picture has picked up wingtip lights as well as strobes...
Edited on Mon Oct-26-09 11:32 PM by A HERETIC I AM
that's why the trail has more red toward the right, as most tip lighting systems have both a colored light (red for port or left and green for starboard) mounted so that it is more visible forward and a white strobe that is more visible to the rear. That explains why as the light trail descends to the runway, almost all of the red is replaced by white light.

Here's a short .pdf doc that describes lighting requirements;

http://www.whiskeyvictor.com/_inst/requirements.pdf

On edit to add that the pic has picked up primary landing lights as well, (obviously) which can be mounted on the nose gear, main gear, leading edge of the wings, and bottom of the fuselage.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:30 PM
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23. thanks for the link
very cool.


although I think the strobes are all represented by the dots (which is what confused me at first "wth are those?"). I think the even the red lights becomes white as all the various airplane's colored lights converge into the same lines on the image, and therefore blow out the exposure.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:10 PM
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19. It looks just like an Ed Ruscha painting to me.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 09:39 PM
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49. Sort of like this?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:27 PM
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21. Amazing photo! I don't know how one would go about selecting
the proper aperture for something like that...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:27 PM
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22. Wow! that is incredible.....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:33 PM
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24. I like it very much.
Nice combination of an air corridor, cirrus clouds, and the circumpolar stars in the Northern Hemisphere.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:42 PM
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26. Very nicely done indeed. Bravo.
I'm guessing that this is a stack of like 25 long exposures. If you don't wish to divulge your methodology I'll understand.

K&R
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 11:45 PM
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28. I absolutely DO NOT TAKE CREDIT for this!!! Photographer is Szabo Gabor and it was shot in Budapest
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:00 AM
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29. OK. I'm a bit slow at times, but I get it now.
Thank you for the link.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:29 AM
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36. Interesting. Have you ever heard of this jazz guitarist?


--imm
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:42 AM
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39. No I haven't.
Hmm... Wiki says he passed away in 1982.

Not the same guy, no doubt.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:06 AM
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30. Hey thanks for the inspiration....
I am a shooter and ALWAYS like looking at others work; this guy is really something. I have messed around with some long shutter stuff with my DSLR and it is NOT the same as shooting with Film. I have so much to learn, and I have been at this game for 32 years!! BTW, saw all the hoops you have to jump through to use their images...they are strict and get mad if you don't follow the rules.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:20 AM
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31. Yes, I know about the hoops....
and I am actually surprised the pic showed up on my OP. That's why I included the link just in case.

Hopefully, this little thread will go un-noticed by the mean people at Airliners.net!

Out of curiosity on your Digital SLR, how long of an exposure can you take before it starts looking goofy? I don't know if I've ever seen a digital shot with an exposure of longer than a few seconds. As I indicated upthread, I'm no photog so my knowledge of the art form is limited. I understand the mechanics of a camera lens, etc., but I have never studied the finer points of making artful photographs.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:00 AM
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34. ttt
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:53 AM
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40. Cool!
K&R
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 06:19 PM
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42. Great shot!
I love the little strobe light flashes
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 06:21 PM
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43. Way cool! and astronomy buffs too!
:applause:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 06:24 PM
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44. Eyeball magnet!
Yes it is.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 08:58 PM
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48. yes
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:15 PM
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50. K & R....
nicely done and very lovely... :)
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:44 PM
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51. Quite magnificent!!! I'm imagining seeing this reproduced on a wall thirty feet wide
by twenty feet high.

Thanks Heretic I Am.

Rec
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:36 PM
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53. That would be cool!
Glad you enjoyed it.

If you are an aviation enthusiast at all, that website can keep you busy for hours and hours!

Here's another one of my favorites;



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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:51 PM
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52. Ya-hooey! EXCELLENT time-exposure. One of the best I've seen.
Redstone
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 11:40 PM
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54. Lovely. Thanks for posting this. NT
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