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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:47 AM
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Grocery shenanigans: Smaller size, same price?
Jimmy Dean sausage customer compaint..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4RNb3tt0LM

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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:55 AM
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1. Inflation is a bitch
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:56 AM
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2. yep. what about potato chip bags
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:31 AM
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23. Half air.
Inflated to "protect the contents", of course. :eyes:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:43 AM
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24. Sometimes some deals are there if you look
For instance one brand of chips just changed from a three ounce bag to a two ounce bag and kept the same price $.79 per bag, however they kept the one ounce bag the same $.34 a bag, Now two one ounce bags are cheaper than one two ounce bag, It pays to check things out..
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:48 AM
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26. The chip dip I buy got smaller too
I buy Dean's French Onion Dip Lite. The container is now about 1/3 smaller than it use to be.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:09 AM
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33. Bags of chips used to be HUGE....
...and now? They look like a snack pack or a side for a sandwich.

Same price, tho.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:28 PM
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39. I know! They are tiny now! Did the price of potatoes, salt, and oil soar?
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:14 AM
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3. Tuna went from 6oz to 5oz cans recently AND went up in price.
It means you don't have the same amount of tuna anymore as required by my older recipes. What a scam.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:43 AM
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5. All of my olde tuna recipes call for 7-oz. cans of chunk-style . . . drained. How many ounces
. . . of water or oil went into those old 7-oz. cans? How much is in today's 5-oz. cans? :shrug:

Rather than purchase that water/oil "waste", I've been buying solid-pack tuna rather than
chunk-style. Yeah, they cost more; but, at least, I'm not wasting money on water or oil.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:04 AM
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29. The 13.25 oz boxes of spaghetti are what bug me the most
I think somebody deliberately designed them to be a size that can't even come close to dividing into 4 oz amounts, so you have to keep buying more to round it out.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:06 AM
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31. Noticed that. One can barely makes two sandwiches now, and casserole
requires three cans.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:20 AM
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4. Oreo cookies are now 18oz. instead of 22 oz.
Brown Gold coffee JUST went from a 16 0z. can to an 11.5 oz. can for the same price, the 18 lb. bag of Purina naturals cat food is now 16 lbs.

It goes on and on and unless we do something they will continue to steal from us.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:29 AM
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10. "and unless we do something..." what do you suggest we do?
boycott smaller packages?

demand that they keep the package sizes the same and simply raise the price?

pass a law so they can't raise prices?

what should we do, exactly?

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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:16 AM
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12. Keep the package size and simply raise the price.
Be fucking honest instead of trying to deceive us by putting less product in the same size package as before. Not only is it sneaky, it screws up our recipes.

As far as "doing something" goes, we can refuse to buy from companies that do this, and write to them and tell them why.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:48 AM
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16. Stop buying the products and let them know you did, at least I'm
pro-active about it. Oreo's are one of my few indulgences, but I haven't bought them in nearly 8 months since they jacked with the price and packaging. Brown Gold got a letter from me in an old 16 oz can, Purina got a picture of my cats eating Meow Mix.


Is that good enough?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:29 AM
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21. One thing I have noticed about ice cream ...


I have noticed air pockets some times the size of golf balls in the 56 oz size (formerly ½ Gal size) and I'm not so sure that is any accident.


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Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:06 AM
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37. No accident -- they pump air into it
If you get a chance, pick up a quart or half-gallon of Trader Joe's ice cream -- I mean pick up, literally. It's heavy. (It's also tasty, if you want to pick it up in the other sense).
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:58 AM
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6. This has been happening for decades.
Look at older cookbooks that specify container sizes. No packaged food is as large as it used to be.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:58 AM
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11. It's true...
and, as I said in another thread, they sometimes offer the old size and promote it as a bonus! 35% more FREE!
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:25 AM
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7. Yoghurt went from 8oz to 6oz to now 4oz but remaining the same price.
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buzzycrumbhunger Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:34 AM
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8. Ice cream is one of the most flagrant
One of those rare occasions I splurged on a half gallon of frozen yogurt and damned if that doesn't mean 1.2 L now. I guess they figure if they also switch to metric, we'll be too confused to figure out it's half as big as it used to be.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:37 AM
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9. Are they just NOW noticing this????????
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 03:46 AM by AnneD
They started doing this full tilt when gas prices went up during the Bush admin.

I always calculate my purchases by unit volume so it shows up right away. The stores use to post unit prices but they have stopped doing it.,,another way to keep you an ignorant consumer.

to cal. unit price :
take unit of measurement and divide by cost= price per ounce, pound, can, or what ever.

I keep a record the unit prices of my commonly used ingredients by stores. It makes it a breeze to tell the true sales and worth my time.



I thought the video was a hoot. Being from Texas myself-I could feel his pain. Dad did heavy labor and wanted a good breakfast before he left for work. That rant could have been him. No bowl of cereal for Dad.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:43 AM
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15. It was going on way before then
Candy in the 60's comes to mind.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:54 AM
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13. This has been going on for ages. Notice the concave bottoms
of many of the jars you buy - peanut butter for example.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:00 AM
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14. I splurged on ice cream recently
And we - shockingly - wolfed the whole thing down in one night. It turned out that it was not a half gallon, but was 1.6 liters (note the clever switch to metrics to conceal the change).
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:53 AM
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17. NOTHING comes in a 1 pound can anymore. .
13 1/2 oz, maybe, 14 1/2 oz
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:59 AM
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18. I wonder if the federal government even makes note of this when they calculate annual inflation.
If a can is 5 ounces one year and next year it is 4 ounces but the same price, does it even show up in inflation reporting?
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:00 AM
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28. It's often missed
I calculate my own inflation numbers based on my own retail price survey, and somehow my numbers are always different than the government's.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:14 AM
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19. Folgers coffee from 1 lb ->13 oz -> 11.5 oz.& Ie is also creating havoc on some of my recipes
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 08:17 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:51 PM
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41. remember the old recipes that called for can size?
I have a cookbook from 1920-something that is full of recipes that call for a #303 can of this or that or a #10

Equivalent chart
http://homecooking.about.com/library/archive/blhelp7.htm
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:07 PM
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43. Wow! That's the first time I've seen that. The oldest cookbook
I've had in my possession was from the 30s (sold it on eBay) and it had regular measurements. The oldest one I have now is a Betty Crocker cookbook from the 60s.

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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:23 AM
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20. As others have said, this is nothing new, and its been a longstanding practice...
for many different food manufacturers for decades. Most famous example would be the old Hershey's nickle bar.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:30 AM
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22. You just noiced this?
this has been going on, like, forever.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:44 AM
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25. But there's no inflation.
Remember that.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:52 AM
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27. That's been happening in the UK for a good while now. "Must preserve margins, you know...
.... have the clamour of the shareholders for ever bigger profits to think of."
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:04 AM
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30. Mayonnaise also
Only thing is is the jar is the same size.What they are doing is whipping it up with more nitrogen in it so that you actually get less in the same size jar.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:08 AM
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32. It also means you're buying more packaging with your food
More crap for the landfills, more plastic using up the oil reserves...

I remember the days when everything advertised "Large Economy Size!" Now there seem to be fewer and fewer products where that's even an option.

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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:25 PM
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48. Sometimes the larger sizes
cost more per unit of product than the smaller sizes. I've noticed that for years. The store figures you'll just assume the bigger package is more economical.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:09 AM
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34. food club. i want to knwo about stores kicking out known brand and going to their brand
food club is the cheap product with labeling copied from the popular brands. i want to know if these are the stores product, ergo making that much more product.

in my store last week, i could not get jiffy cornbread or kraft jack cheese. to major products. more and more our store is eliminating other products forcing us to buy the inferior brand.

so dishonest and manipulative. i hate it. and without complaint, the more they do, the more we buy this product, they will eliminate competition for their inferior brand
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:14 AM
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they started it years ago with coffee..used to be 1 pound..then they made it 13 oz..
and packaged it in plastic instead of tin..and no one said a damn thing..it has been done with paper towels and toilet paper and laundry detergent..the list goes on and on..
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:56 PM
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50. I remember the coffee 'down-sizing' many years ago
It's nothing new except for when it happens to a product which one buys on a regular basis. Recently, there are too many products that have succumbed to the pressures of big business and down-sized their product while inflating the price.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:14 AM
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35. a 'pint' of ice cream
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 10:38 AM by DemReadingDU
is now 15 oz. nope. just 14 oz.

a 'half gallon' of ice cream is now 1.5 quarts.

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:19 AM
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36. I can understand the decision to sell the product in smaller quantities, but deceptive packaging
should be illegal. First off, keeping the package the same size tricks the eye into thinking that there hasn't been a change in volume of product. Only shoppers who are being extra careful will notice the difference in the store and that's intentional. Secondly, it's a waste of materials to build in bigger air pockets or add more water rather than retooling the package size. It's not as if they ever intend to return to the original weight/volume after all -- or maybe they DO think it's possible if enough customers complain about the change.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:18 AM
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38. I just bought a can of cranberry sauce--
Now 14 oz. instead of 16 oz. and a higher price.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:40 PM
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40. His complaint is that he can only buy the 12 ounce size, because 16 ounce is no longer available.
Also, he states that he doesn't mind paying more, he just wants 16 ounces for a meal.

So why doesn't he just buy 4 packages? He could cook 1 and 1/3 packages (16 ounces) per meal. If they only eat sausage once a week (or once a month or whatever) freeze the uncooked portions. Problem solved.

That said, I agree with all the comments about reducing the package size rather than simply raising the price. It screws up recipes, among other things.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:56 PM
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42. Rich Hall called it Snack-mosphere. Bag of chips 1/3 full the rest is snack-mosphere...
And they charge you for that air bubble too :rant:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:47 PM
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44. This is an excellent thread want to keep it kicked and recommended.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:58 PM
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45. I like banquet dinner swedish meatballs
A couple of years ago, you got five meatballs. Today I only get four meatballs. What a ripoff..
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:01 PM
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46. Yup...
I'm noticing that on all kinds of products. Sometimes it is smaller size and more expensive too. In addition has anyone else noticed that when they downsize your product they make it harder to open when it is repackaged?

Maybe they think we won't notice the size change (we are all such children, you know) or if we do it will be so hard to open that we will just be grateful to get it and forget about the size completely.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:22 PM
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47. Here he is, happy now, back to 16 oz size.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:15 PM
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52. LOL!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:17 PM
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49. SOP for the damnable marketing wonks.
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Paula Sims Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:11 PM
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51. Just one comparison trip to Ultra Foods convinced me
At our local Ultra, yes, the prices are lower but that's because the packages are smaller. Comparing ounce for ounce, it's actually more expensive.
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