do read them in entirety..to know what is going on!!The Total Nail Polish Remover Awareness Program, Brought to You by the Democratic PartyBy: emptywheel Sunday October 4, 2009 11:07 am
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Note, too, DiFi's reference to the "transfiguration" of FBI finally in place--
is she suggesting that for the first time the FBI has used Total Information Awareness to support terrorist busts? Later, during the discussion of Durbin's attempt to limit the use of 215 to those with some discernible tie to a terrorist suspect, DiFi claims that such changes would end several investigations.
DiFi (101:31): Secondly, the FBI does not support this amendment. And thirdly, in putting forward this higher standard, it would end several classified and critical investigations. This was one of the amendments that I submitted to you and you were gracious enough to accept it. Senator Sessions is correct. These are authorized investigations and it's a use of the National Security Letter in an authorized investigation. So, as I said, a standard for me is that this not interfere in existing investigations, and in fact it would.
Understand the implications of that comment. If DiFi is right
(Feingold doesn't buy it), it means there are "several" counterterrorism investigations going on that rely on collecting business records and/or tangible things on people who have no discernible tie to terrorism. They may already have that giant database of people who have recently purchase nail polish remover and other acetone or hydrogen peroxide products.Now, if it were just DiFi, I'd assume this is a bunch of fear-mongering. But Whitehouse endorses Feinstein's argument (though Feingold immediately rebuts both their claims).
Whitehouse (107:36): I just want to associate myself with the remarks of Chairman Feinstein, and to say that as my colleagues have a chance to review the classified materials that support her concern that this amendment would interfere with ongoing programs and also find an explanation as to why an earlier vote on a related subject may have been unanimous that no longer would make sense.
Feingold: On that point, I'm aware of the classified information Senator Feinstein and Senator Whitehouse are discussing and I strongly disagree that this three-part standard would harm national security, would be unworkable or cause the consequences that they've indicated.
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How Republicans (and a Few Democrats) Avoided Limits on Section 215
By: emptywheel Monday October 5, 2009 12:27 pm
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/05/how-republicans-avoided-limits-on-section-215/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Conyers to Holder: Give Us the 215 Info
By: emptywheel Monday October 5, 2009 4:58 pm
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/05/conyers-to-holder-give-us-the-215-info/I guess I'm not the only one who noticed that DOJ is trying to reauthorize Section 215 without leveling with the American people how they're using it. John Conyers, Jerrold Nadler, and Bobby Scott have written Eric Holder, requesting that he make more information on the way Section 215 is used public.
In order to meaningfully consider whether and how to extend the "business records" section of the Act, however, we ask that the Department work to provide additional public information on the use of that provision.
Specifically, at the September 22 hearing, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Hinnen testified that orders under Section 215 of the Act, which authorizes compulsory production of "business records," have been used to obtain "transactional information" to support "important and highly sensitive intelligence collection." He explained that some members of the Subcommittee and cleared staff have received some briefings on this topic, and that additional information could be made available to them "in a classified setting."
We have appreciated the information that has been provided, and fully understand the importance of safeguarding our country's national security secrets. Too often in 2007 and 2008, however, crucial information remained unknown to the public and many members of Congress when Congress voted on important surveillance legislation affecting the interests of all Americans. As has also been requested in the Senate, we ask that the Department work to make publicly available additional basic information on the use of Section 215, so that Congress can more openly and thoroughly consider the future of this authority while fully protecting our national security secrets.
wow ..this is really change i can believe in........
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