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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:59 AM
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What Republicans have said about healthcare
Republicans were shocked - shocked, I tell ya! - when Democratic House Representative Alan Grayson of Florida correctly said the GOP healthcare plan is simply this: If you get sick, die quickly. Their whining was highly predictable. You see, Republicans can dish it out but they can't take it. And just how have they dished it out?

One example that comes quickly to mind is the childish outburst by Representative Joe Wilson (R-SC) on 09/09/09 during President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress: "You lie!" The charge, ironically and yet true to form, was itself a lie. But there have been many other wingnut tirades. Here are a few:

    "That’s exactly what's going on in Canada and Great Britain today... and a lot of people are going to die." - Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), 7/10/09

    "One in five people have to die because they went to socialized medicine!... I would hate to think that among five women, one of 'em is gonna die because we go to socialized care." - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), 7/15/09

    “They're going to save money by rationing care, getting you in a long line. Places like Canada, United Kingdom, and Europe. People die when they're in line." - Rep. Steve King (R-IA), 7/15/09

    "Last week Democrats released a health care bill which essentially said to America's seniors: Drop dead." - Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL), 7/21/09

    "(The Republican plan will) make sure we bring down the cost of health care for all Americans and that ensures affordable access for all Americans and is pro-life because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government." - Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), 7/28/09

    http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2009/09/wiscos-news-roundup-for-93009.html
These are just a few of House members’ obfuscations. Of the many fallacious slurs by conservatives’ favorite talking heads, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/palin-obamas-death-panel_n_254399.html">consider Sarah Palin’s recent Facebook comment:

    “The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”
And Republicans think we should be more civil? I say we have been far too timid for far too long, letting an endless stream of vicious slurs go virtually unanswered. Representative Grayson’s observation was like a breath of fresh air and I hope others will be inspired at last to grow a spine.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:02 AM
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1. i don't want my party back anymore, i want a new one
i give up on the corporate dems who tuck nuts and cluck for cash. there already is a corporate whore party - the Republicans. but the new "Dems" are sucking the air out of democracy


ugh
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:11 AM
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2. Green party?
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LAWWIZARD Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:29 AM
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3. There may be a robust public option, but...
There is no reason on god's good green earth that at a minimum a strong robust public option cannot be passed. There are enough votes in the House (hell even my rep who is a blue dog has expressed his support) and don't let anyone tell you we need more than 51 votes in the Senate because we don't. We only need all democrats to be willing to vote to cut off debate. Tell me what Democratic Senator would be so brazen to support a filibuster? Even if this mythical creature exists we would still have resort to reconciliation. The fact is if we don't get a strong public option the fix was in from the beginning. This "Et tu, Brute?" has only one resting place and it is not the House or Senate. As my grandmother said, I will give you three guesses and the first two don't count. A friend of mine asked me a few weeks ago what did I think of the Obama Administration so far and I told him the jury was still out. I should have added that the jury sent a note to judge asking to review the evidence on health care reform, the nine trillion dollar give away to the banking industry (that no one seems to know where it has gone), and the Afghanistan policy which appears to be in the making of a 50 year occupation. (so much so the judge may reopen testimony) Finally, it appears that a leak from the jury (see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-cohen/the-mystique-of-free-mark_b_298461.html) is tending to wards a conviction on at least one count of Clinton light and possibly on the more serious charge political gamesmanship. As for me, I sit on the jury and I am waiting for all the evidence to be in, however, unless there is some rather dramatic new testimony I will vote for conviction on all counts. I have had ENOUGH!

Dan
As Ed said the other day "Do you think Obama needs to be more forceful? My response "DUH!"
:dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:49 AM
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4. Thanks Wizard, good rant.
To which I will add, we were fools to have thrown out single payer in the beginning. I want Congress to bring it up for a roll call vote so we can more easily sort out friends from foes during the next election.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 08:06 AM
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7. "Tell me what Democratic Senator would be so brazen to support a filibuster?"
That would be Senator Nelson (D-FL). Already stated he will not vote for cloture.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:51 AM
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5. They call pro-choicers "pro-abortion" so why aren't we calling Palin "pro-Downs-Syndrome" ?
They're simply more willing to fight dirty. Kinda sucks to be the good guys, sometimes.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:12 AM
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6. There's a lot of things we should be calling them.
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 03:13 AM by Lasher
You're right, they're more willing to fight dirty. Sometimes I wish I were a member of Congress just so that I could say things that need said.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 08:53 AM
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8. Most of those shit heads dpn't even know where Canada is!
Let alone what goes on there!
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