Am I a hypocrite?

[nevergiveup]

I was totally pissed when the jerk congressman verbally heckled President Obama but last year when the guy threw a shoe at President Bush I almost busted a gut with uncontrollable laughing.

[BlooInBloo]

1. Probably, but not for that reason.

This has been another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.

:P

[Emit]

7. lol!

BlooInBloo, I do appreciate your posts!

[ddeclue]

2. One was funny - one was not.

As funny a comeuppance as it was - I still think shoe thrower guy got off light.

I think if you did that to the Mayor of Memphis you'd probably get more time than he got (what, he got 9 months?)

[NoSheep]

3. No. Because Bush is responsible for the deaths of 100's of thousands. Obama

was not lying.

[Ramulux]

4. Not really

I think there is a difference between a press conference and a joint session of congress. Also like someone said Bush is responsible for the deaths of thousands of the shoe throwers countrymen.

[vixengrl]

12. Welcome to DU!

I agree that there is a difference both in the venue and the context. A press conference is a less formal occasion than a joint session of congress. The congresscritters, in my opinion, have a bit more responsibility to hold to formal rules than average folks, even journalists, who are still private citizens--

but also, and to me this is the bigger part, the context. In the one instance, the congresman is saying "You lie!" regarding a pretty much accurate thing said by the President in an official address. In the other instance, a president was patting himself on the back regarding his responsibility for improvements in a country that he decimated in the first place--a thing that showed so little awareness on Bush's part, and regarding the deaths, maiming, and destruction of so many--really, the shoe should have found his head and given him the black eye he gave this country (in a figurative way, let's say.) Not the same at all.

[EmilyAnne]

5. Well, at least Bush got 7 years to build up to the shoe throw. Obama has had a just over 7 months.

And the Iraqi shoe thrower saw his country destroyed by Bush under phony information.
Millions of Iraqi civilians, possibly friends and family of the journalists, were senselessly killed by Bush.

Joe Wilson called Obama a liar when there was no lie.
No loe at all.
It was an unjust claim by an intellectual degenerate.
So, yeah, I feel the same as you.
Maybe we are both hypocrites?

[sandnsea]

6. Our government ought to have different standards

than a reporter in a country that has been destroyed based on lies.

[Lagomorph]

8. Once the office has been brought down...

...it is open to attack from anyone.

Hell, they've shot presidents, shot at them, disrupted them, insulted them, thrown shoes...

It's been on a downward spiral for decades.

Good luck restoring any respect for the President. It's always been a dangerous job.

[madeline_con]

10. Our president deserves respect. Shrub never did in his life. n/t

[Lagomorph]

14. Good luck getting it.

Just sayin' If there was a lack of respect for Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton or Bush 2 don't expect miracles. The same attack machine that brought them so much grief is still running.

It is certainly needed, but the jungle rules are the jungle rules.

[madeline_con]

18. He's got it. No luck necessary, but thanks for the vote o confidence.

:hi:

[Lagomorph]

20. Still working on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t439ruGCqRw&NR=1

[rbrnmw]

26. I disagree in a Joint Session speaking as the POTUS he did get and

deserved respect but for the Title alone it is a precedent to show respect to the Office even if you don't respect the man That is what I have been taught all my life

[kelly1mm]

9. It depends - why were you pissed and why did you think it was funny? nt

[TreasonousBastard]

11. Not unless you act on those feelings. Face it, if...

Barney Frank yelled at Shrub during a speech most people around here would have been orgasmic.

But, to encourage that sort of behavior is wrong.

[Maru Kitteh]

23. In a joint session, I'm not so sure about that. I know it would have made me uncomfortable.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. I don't know about you but I wasn't pissed when that republican idiot yelled "you lie".

I just thought it was disrespectful and he must have forgotten where he was but I didn't get mad. In fact, after watching the video, I cracked up at Pelosi's, Biden's and Obama's reactions. Nancy had the "oh my gawd!" reaction, Biden had that "what the f*ck!" reaction and Obama had no reaction but that twitch in his arm after the pause. :-)

[ConnorMarc]

15. I Couldn't Stop Laughing Over The Shoe-Throwing

I actually laughed at the Joe Wilson too, but for different reasons.

The shoe-thrower is getting released tomorrow, I, for one, would love to shake his hands.

LOL!!!

[Fapping_Slappy]

21. Once again for your viewing pleasure

Duck!

[Maru Kitteh]

24. I enjoy the smile on Al-Malaki's face before he realized he was supposed to be outraged.

very funny.

[pipi_k]

31. For me, the funniest thing about it was

how deftly Dubya dodged the shoe.

Like he's had lots of practice dodging flying objects...



Second funniest thing...the expression on his face. Sort of like a carnival clown in the ducking tank after someone has missed the target and failed to send him into the water.


:7

[NoSheep]

34. he was so good at that I thought he must have had a lot of practice!

Welcome to DU!

[donheld]

16. I was pissed as hell about the shoe

The idiot missed.

[The Wielding Truth]

17. If those words would have been said after Bush's first 9 months it would

have been IMO a bad ill mannered and inappropriate thing to do.

[notadmblnd]

19. No, I don't think so...

Bush was guilty of so much that he deserved more that a show thrown at him. Obama may not be doing enough fast enough for some people, however, he hasn't don't anything do deserve such disrespect yet.

[JI7]

22. the guy who threw a shoe at Bush wasn't a Congressman, he was from a country Bush attacked

[rbrnmw]

25. To be honest it made me sick

but the guy was a journalist not a United States Congressman who screamed at HIS President during a joint session of Congress

[TannerBoyle]

27. No. You are not a hypocrite in this case.

BUT....if Obama had sent a Federal Military task force to South Carolina, blew the whole State back to the Stone Age, and then spent the last five years sending Rangers into peoples' homes at 4AM to stick rifles in their kids' faces, THEN we'd have something to talk about. :D

[Historic NY]

28. The shoe thrower went to jail, nothing happened to Wilson.

[Toasterlad]

29. There's a Difference Between a Congressman Disrupting a President's Speech to Congress

and a native expressing his outrage at a visiting President in a foreign country.

If someone threw a shoe at Obama HERE, in this country, I would not find it offensive. But I expect better behavior from an elected official during a full session of Congress.

[pipi_k]

30. I can't really say if you are one or not, but

I do have to admit that I laughed like hell over the shoe thing too.

Which I probably shouldn't have, seeing as the shoe thrower was disrespecting the OFFICE of the President, but then, in classic mixed feelings fashion, I thought well, shit...Dubya, in my mind anyway, was nothing more than a usurper. Twice. So it wasn't disrespect for the OFFICE that guy was showing, it was anger against Bush.

As some others have pointed out though...the shoe thrower wasn't a member of Congress bound by rules of order and etiquette. He was a citizen of a country that Bush-and-his-ilk decided to invade and destroy.

Anyway, if that makes me a hypocrite, then so be it. I'm well aware of the fact that I can, at times, be rather hypocritical

;)

[BoneDaddy]

32. Depends on which tribe you

belong to ...it is that simple. Just watch this message board. Things that may be comical when it happens to a republican, religious fundamentalist or anyone outside the progressive "family" are not funny when it happens to someone we consider part of our group.

Life is so a matter of what side you sit on.

[Starry Messenger]

33. NO.

If Obama declares war and occupies the state of South Carolina, then people could be justified in heckling or whatever. Wilson was just being an asshole.

[Javaman]

35. So lets see...

one man throws a shoe at a person who willfully invaded his nation with no evidence or probable cause.

And another man calls someone a liar when they themselves are lying.

Hmmm, such choices.

No, you are just ignorant on the issues.

go away and do some thinking, it will serve you well.