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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:58 PM
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Great interview (video and article) with Jane Hamsher in the PV forum...
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 12:18 AM by slipslidingaway
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:23 AM
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1. Thanks for the title adjustment.
:)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:30 AM
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2. No problem, good idea for those who cannot watch videos, it is
an important interview.

:)

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:47 AM
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3. K & R


:grr:


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:13 AM
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5. I agree ....
:grr:

Thanks

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:01 AM
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4. K &R #5 This really has to be listened to! n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 08:13 AM
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6. It certailnly does! thanks :) n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:42 AM
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7. Link to the Jane Hamsher article in the Editorials forum...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=479918&mesg_id=479918

Van Jones: A Moment of Truth For Liberal Institutions in the Veal Pen
By: Jane Hamsher

"Soon after the election, the Administration began corralling the big liberal DC interest groups into a variety of organizations and communication networks through which they telegraphed their wishes -- into a virtual veal pen. The 8:45 am morning call co-hosted by the "liberal" Center for American Progress, Unity 09, and Common Purpose are just a few of the overt ways that the White House controls its left flank and maintains discipline.

...A few weeks ago, Rahm Emanuel showed up at a Common Purpose meeting and called these liberal groups "fucking stupid" for going after Blue Dogs on health care and ordered them not to do so any more. Since that time, to the best of my knowledge, none of them have.

These organizations may kid themselves that they're doing no harm, but that's not true. They are the institutional liberal validators who telegraph to liberals that there are problems, that things are happening that are not good for them. They are trusted to decode the byzantine rituals of government and let the public know when their interests are not being served, that it's time to pay attention and start making a racket. When they fail to perform that task, the public is left with a vague feeling of anxiety, intuitively understanding that something is wrong but not knowing who or what to blame.


...Which means that the teabaggers were in perfect position to harvest all of the discontent over the bank bailout, and no coherent liberal critique was offered. I heard it over and over again -- if you wanted to criticize the White House on financial issues, your institutional funding would dry up instantly. The Obama campaign successfully telegraphed to donors that they should cut off Fund for America, which famously led to its demise. It wasn't the last time something like that happened -- just ask those who were receiving institutional money who criticized the White House and saw their funding cut, at the specific request of liberal institutional leaders who now principally occupy their time by brown nosing friends and former co-workers in the White House.

...CAP's John Podesta is also a partner in the Podesta Group, his brother's lobbying shop that is representing WalMart against the Employee Free Choice Act. This morning on Fox & Friends, Podesta wouldn't say a word in Jones' defense for doing something no worse than what elected Republican members of Congress do on a daily basis. The message is loud and clear: incur the wrath of the right wing, and you're on your own.

Wow, is that a way to encourage your team or what.
If these groups, if these liberal leaders, let Jones just hang there while Glenn Beck pounds his chest and celebrates the scalp, we have no liberal institutions. What we have are a bunch of neoliberal enablers who have found a nice comfortable place in the DC establishment that they don't want to jeopardize, a place on the new K-Street gravy train that they don't want to lose. Dropping Van Jones from their rolodex is a small price to pay."




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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:21 AM
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8. K & R!!!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 10:49 AM
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9.  Most likely she is correct about keeping campaign money from...
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 10:49 AM by slipslidingaway
the Republicans.

:(

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:58 PM
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10. Considering how bad things already are, it's terrifying that the Supreme Court is on the verge
of blowing the doors open to even more corporate money completely destroying what little democracy we have left.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 01:44 PM
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11. Are you trying to ruin my weekend...
:evilgrin:

The sad part is that either so many are in denial or they want to remain clueless!





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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 05:50 PM
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12. Kick
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 07:35 PM
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13. Thanks n/t
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