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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:59 PM
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Up to $3,800 fine for failure get health insurance
Gee, maybe we can make it even tougher, how about the death penalty, then we can insure those who can't afford it anyway won't even be on the rolls

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Up-to-3800-fine-for-failure-apf-3959733296.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode=


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:01 PM
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1. The fine is way less expensive than the insurance
Marcy Wheeler lays it out in her blog:

"A bunch of outlets have now released Bad Max's framework on health care.

Here are some ways to think of Max Tax:

Maximum amount a family of four making $67,000 would have to pay for health care, per year: $20,610 (31% of income)

Total amount that family of four would pay in fine if they did not get health care insurance: $3,800

Total amount a corporation with more than 50 employees would pay in fine if it did not offer health insurance: $400 per employee

Total amount a corporation can pay for health care plans without paying 35% tax: $8000 individual, $21,000 family"

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/more-on-the-max-tax/
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:04 PM
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3. Wow, that sounds like a huge crock
Oy veh.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:48 PM
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11. Check this out in the comments in Marcy's post...
"Take a look at the document properties of the pdf that ew links to above. The author is Liz Fowler. The Liz Fowler who was vice president for public policy and external affairs for Wellpoint, the nation’s second-largest health-insurance company, until she re-joined Baucus’ staff in Feb. 2008. She had done an earlier stint with Baucus from 2000-2005."
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:04 PM
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2.  Max Baucus
Is a delusional son of a bitch. This isn't going to fly, and he just gave the Repukes the rallying point they needed.

He's trying to sink health care reform before it even gets to the senate floor.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:07 PM
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5. Oh totally. But I just had a DUer comment to me that his plan is 'irrelevant'
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 03:07 PM by Hello_Kitty
Because it hasn't made it out of committee. Irrelevant, my ass. He just lobbed a missile at us.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:06 PM
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4. they had better start building more jails, to house all of us who
will refuse to buy shitty insurance....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:17 PM
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6. Hey.. Plan B.. In jail if you get sick they treat you
:) and they feed you and put a roof over your head:)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:42 PM
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8. Are you kidding? The sick fucks that run this country would LOVE that
... if they thought they could really get away with it.

Give em time ;)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:35 PM
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7. Would you prefer we let them die if they become ill and refuse them treatment?
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:44 PM
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9. felony or misdemeaner? .nt
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:48 PM
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10. I smell something bad.
Sounds like a rumor started by someone who is against health insurance reform. (Or someone trying to block health insurance reform).
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 04:07 PM
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12. FINE, not coverage! The bill isn't out of committe, however
if it's true and IF it passes through all the hoops it has yet to go through; this would be a FINE not Insurance. It would NOT pay any of your medical bills.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 04:51 PM
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13. Ah, not the reform I had in mind Mr. BauCUS.
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 04:52 PM by mzmolly
What a !@$# crock.
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