"Communism", "Totalitarianism", "Socialism" et al.

[Lost-in-FL]

Can't wait for these words losing their impact in a few years just like the "Terror Alert Threats" and their matching colors lost their meaning. So please GOP, keep up the good job.

[Cleita]

1. Totalitarianism? We should remember what that is and it's really what

BushCo was trying to push us into. However, it was the real system that was called communism and socialism during the cold war.

[Lost-in-FL]

3. Absolutely

BushCo was creating a textbook Totalitarian state but the way the GOPers are using these words now could only backfire. They are using these words to inspire terror and hatred but there aren't signs to back up their claims and that is the difference the way I see it.

[BOG PERSON]

15. "Totalitarianism" is a figment of the liberal philistine's imagination

[Cleita]

19. Okay, how about absolute monarchy or dictatorship. Same method; different words. n/t

[BOG PERSON]

22. Uh, no?

Even dictatorships and monarchies have their own internal contradictions and their decisions must represent and balance competing interests?

[Justitia]

26. "liberal philistine"???? Care to expound on that phrase?

:wtf:

I'm all ears.

[David__77]

28. Absolutely. The imagining of the likes of Arendt.

I agree.

[sam sarrha]

2. Russia/china/cuba were never Communist by definition.. narcissist Totalitarian dictatorships

[BOG PERSON]

20. "narcissistic"?

Are you going to explain the historic development of states and societies in terms of one man's psychopathology?

Are you going to tell me that the only person in Cuba with a will and a mind of his own is Fidel Castro? Or that the only person in the People's Republic of China who had a will and a mind of his or her own between 1949-1976 was Mao Zedong?

[sam sarrha]

29. your statement really missed the point, its obvious you dont understand , read this book...

i am saying the dynamics of of a Psychotic Narcissistic dictator draw such individuals to them to use, creates the government to control the people. are you telling me that all the chinese supported Mao and the red guard tearing their country and lives apart. Mao in his Syphilitic insanity killed 20,000 at a time.. Stalin executed out of paranoia between 10 and 40 million. Muhammad was a war lord from the start.. islam later murdered 80,000,000 in the India conquest alone. NPD dictatorships are all associated with lots of people dying due to the inherent paranoia in the disorder

.. http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Muhammad-Ali-Sina/dp/0980994802 this is most informative book i have ever read about religion in my life.. it draws a really good picture about how Psychotic Narcissists come to power

in my younger days i almost converted to islam, till i started researching it.. it isn't what it it said to be, i have also livered in an islamic republic in the Peace Corps, in '73it

, the ReThuglican Party is nothing but a social club for Narcissists. it is a Narcissistic Ideology.. or an ideology for Narcissists.. :shrug:

they that believe if they destroy the government a Magical Theocratic Utopia will rise out of the ashes of the Constitution and the Federal Government..

The GOP is a Cult, an Ideological Cult, its members are brainwashed to the degree that their brains are physically altered.. this is a good example. the frightening thing is that they are this organized and functional without a Psychotic Narcissistic Leader. Bu$h43/41 were Psychotic Narcissists, but not leaders. Reagan was a leader but not a Psychotic Narcissistic.. all the Psychotic death and destruction in that admin in South/central America was done by Poppy Bu$h, Rumsfeld, Negroponte, Oli North..etc. God wouldn't be able to help anyone on this earth if they do find a Psychotic Narcissistic leader. Jim Jones, , Manson were Puppies, small time players to what is possible with the media behind them

Communisum is a positive productive social/cultural relationship.. there have only been a few, some native american tribes/nations, the Mong in Cambodia.. and some others, not many. the USSR was not communist, hardly socialist.. itss all cold war propaganda

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[armyowalgreens]

4. "Communism" has been used for 60 years. It will not lose it's appeal.

[Cleita]

8. Didja know we were friends with the Soviet communists during WWII?

Yeps, we were and they were our allies. Once we defeated the Nazis, jointly, we became enemies almost overnight. I know. I was there. I listened for years about commie awfulness but the fact is, in my separate life in South America, I knew a lot of communists as well as escaped Nazis, went to Russian movies and figured out that all of the hatred was bull shit. In my USA life, I also learned to keep my mouth shut. That's why I have lived this long. Yet, there are still people who haven't figured all of this out. It's known as propaganda. Learning to hate the right scapegoat unifies a country and when that scapegoat loses it's luster a new one is invented. People are human beings all over the world. It's time to stop being played by power broker manipulators who need to keep us unwashed masses in line.

[Lost-in-FL]

11. We are the new "Soviets" and Capitalism is starting to sound like a curse word

around the world.

[Cleita]

16. Oh, I hope so. We know that capitalism works within democracy and

within totalitarianism. It's only about commerce. It should never be the dominant philosophy behind a government. Yet, all my life I heard that capitalism and communism were opposite political systems. It's time to make the conversation show that capitalism is not a system of government but that it works within governments. I believe the same could be said about communism.

[armyowalgreens]

17. "Capitalism" is a vile thing. I'm glad people are starting to hate the word.

[BOG PERSON]

23. Or its shock value.

Calling somebody a communist can shut down a debate about as quickly as calling them a racist.

[Lost-in-FL]

24. Shocked at the level of stupidity perhaps. nt

but using the word racist is another story.

[Justitia]

5. Which of these words is not like the others? LOL

I defy the paranoid wingers to define any one of the three terms.

Prepare for stammering, stumbling & mumbling.

[armyowalgreens]

6. The best is when they use facist and socialist in the same sentence.

These people don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

[Justitia]

7. I've seen that too - I love that! Ignorance on parade! -eom

[Cleita]

9. They have no idea what they are saying.

If you ask them, even nicely, they can't define what the words mean.

[armyowalgreens]

10. I counter protested a tea party last May. I constantly asked these idiots to define those terms...

Most of them simply ignored my question. A few threatened to assault me.

[Cleita]

12. I have been walked away from when I confronted. No one has

tried to assault me but that's maybe because I'm a little old lady.

[armyowalgreens]

14. I'm a pretty small guy. At certain times, I was surrounded by at least 50...

screaming freepers.

One guy threatened to kill me. Another guy offered money to anyone that would assault me. Most of them just got really close to my face and screamed as loud as they could.

It was funny when they would tell me I was wrong, bust out pocket constitutions, look up the "part that proves me wrong" and then their face would turn white.

Yes the constitution says that the government can levy taxes. I had at least 10 people tell me otherwise.

[Cleita]

18. Wow! Be careful. I would say that it's because you are a young person

is why you are being so vociferously confronted in spite of your size. Please go out in numbers with like minded comrades if you do this.

[armyowalgreens]

25. Well, no one else wanted to go with me. Maybe for good reason...

But I did make it on the news. So I can't complain.

http://gannett.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/gannett-phoenix-531-pub01-live/1.2806/immersiveplayer031008/immersive/client/player.html?playerId=videopage&referralPlaylistId=23c243f78487dd3c24caa7be83a5dec1a7d96b15&referralObject=1094569423&playlistId=0861b98ee7733a66829dd010d2dfeb8ba8e1cffe&streamingFormat=FLASH

They totally fucked up my message.



On edit: also, the protest was in april, not may.

[Lost-in-FL]

13. That sounds like a teabagger's natural response. nt

[RedCloud]

21. And let's bring back radical to mean the root of the problem.

That way those that are not radical are not really part of the solution, are they?

[Beregond2]

27. The right throws these words around so recklessly,

they no longer have any clear meaning.