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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:03 AM
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Anger - A Rant (foul language warning)
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 01:10 AM by Prophet 451
Dear Republicans,

Fuck you. No, I'm not joking. I'm sick of this bullshit.

I'm sick of the way you've corrupted the public discourse. The way you've made it acceptable to hurl any insult you like at public officials. The way you blame us for the current atmosphere of hatred by accusing us of starting it with hating Bush. Like Bush didn't come on the heels of eight years of your tireless efforts to destroy Clinton by any means necessary, like Bush didn't give us good reason to complain. A couple of posters on a website compared Bush to Hitler and you've used it as free license to compare Obama to Hitler 24/7 and I'm sick of your hypocrisy, where it's acceptable to say shit about Obama that you would have had an apopletic fit (and did) if anythign remotely similar had been said about your guys. Keith Olbermann calls Cheney a fascist when he was actually using fascist tactics and you think that gives you the freedom to call Obama a fascist, socialist, Marxist constantly for no reason at all. Fuck you and your bullshit false equivelancy.

I'm sick of the way you've made the populace stupid. Around a fifth of your populace thinks the sun orbits the earth, over half think evolution never happened. Your populace actually believe the media has a liberal bias. Not because it has, you have the most conservative media in the free world, but because you've shouted it so loud and so often that you've brainwashed the public into believing it, like the battered wife who parrots her husband's insults. You've got a whole segment of the populace shouting about socialism and fascism and none of them know what the fucking words mean. You've convinced them that fascism is a left-wing thing. You've got them so turned around that some of them actually believe global warming isn't happening. Fuck you.

I'm sick of the way you try to destroy the whole concept of government. You've tricked the people into believing that government can't do anything right, always being careful to exclude the army because you love your bullets and bombs but you've so destroyed the public's ability to reason that they don't even think of interstate highways, the space program, the national parks program, etc. Government is always great when it's doing what you tell it and inevitibly corrupt when it isn't. Fuck you.

I'm sick of your rewriting of history. You've bleated so loud and long that Reagan was a great president, that the New Deal didn't work, that cutting taxes increases revenues, that you actually have the people believing this bullshit. And these are the same people who will go on to become teachers and fill their student's heads with this self-same bullshit. Reagan was a mediocre president at best who had teh good fortune to be in power when the USSR collapsed under it's own weight and you bastards have turned him into teh Second Coming. You've rewritten history so that everything foul and hateful and wrong can be attributed to a Democrat while everything worthwhile is a Republican's glory. Fuck you.

I'm sick of your dragging the centre ever further to the right. How many whackjob fringe ideas have you dragged into the mainstream? The aforementioned idea that tax cuts increase revenues, the Laffer Curve, the idea that Welfare harms the poor, the idea that there's rampant fraud in Welfare, the idea that whatever is good for corporations is good for the country. And you push these ideas through your corporate media and you do it so long and loud that they become part of the accepted political landscape and because it is easier to tell a lie than to debunk one, we never get away from this rancid shit. Fuck you.

I'm sick of your casual criminality. Teddy Kennedy, a man who's boots you were not worthy to lick, was just buried and all I've heard from my rightist friends for days is Chappaquidick, Chappaquiddick, Chappaquidick. Your fucking golden boy raped the Constitution, mainly because he wanted to; tortured random people (and waterboarding is torture, fuck you too) essentially because he wanted to; spent like a drunken sailor, essentially because he wanted to; invaded a soverign nation, essentially for the loot and destroyed people's lives, essentially for the evilulz and you bastards are obsessed with a fucking accident a Democrat had decades ago? You don't go on about Laura Bush killing some guy decades ago. Fuck you.

I'm sick of you praising pure evil. You're letting Dick Cheney be the standard-bearer for Republicanism. Dick Cheney, a man so nakedly evil that even his friends call him "Darth"; a man so callous that Lex Luthor would recoil in terror; a man who probably has dismembered hitchhikers in those man-sized safes and kills plants by his mere proximity. Fuck you.

I'm sick of your attempts to tilt the playing field permanently in your favour. Democrats filibustered a few of Bush's most hateful judicial picks and you pricks started screaming about doing away with the filibuster but now you're in the minority, you're filibustering absolutely everything you can and whining when you don't get the chance. You ignored everything the Democrats had to say when you had power and now that you don't, you scream that everyone must be bipartisan. You don't budge a fucking inch on anything but you insist that everyone must compromise to meet you. That's your idea of politics: Don't move an inch, force the other guy to come to the right to meet you and call the result a "compromise". Fuck you.

I'm sick of your corporatism. You dress it up in false populism but anyone with half a brain can see that you're the brought and paid for subsidiary of big business. You keep pushing tax cuts as the answer for absolutely everything, you keep sabotaging every attempt to control the excesses of big business. You geuinely think the world would be a better place if it was a combination of Bill Gibson's dystopian vision of a corporate dominated world and Ayn Rand's bullshit Objectivism, yet another entry in mankind's endless attempts to find a moral justification for naked greed. You've taken the clinically insane spewings of a woman literally to the right of Hitler (pardon my Godwins) and the 1984-like vision of a dystopian author and convinced yourselves that would be a good place to live. Big business is the enemy of the people, always has been. The ideal for the corporate class is to have a small pool of people rich enough to buy their fucking crap and a much larger pool of people so poor and with so few options that they can be used and abused at the corporation's whim. A corporation's objective is not to look after you, it is to make ever-larger profits by any means necessary. You bastards want to reinstate fucking slavery to the corporate class and you've made the public so fucking stupid that they actually swallow the bullshit you're serving up, they actually want to enslave themselves to the corporations that abuse them at every turn. They actually care more about the corporations right to make obscene profits than they care about their child's right to live on a habitable planet. Fuck you.

Fuck you, you scumridden shitehawks, you make me sick. Just fuck off and die.


EDIT: To remove my brief descent into sexist language. Apologies to anyone who saw it.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:11 AM
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1. K&R
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:14 AM
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2. Fing K & Fing R
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:14 AM
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3. This is Rude Pundit-worthy
and I don't say that to just anyone.

:toast:

Righteous rant. Rant on, Dude.

:woohoo:
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:35 AM
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9. Wow
Dude, that's serious praise. Thanks.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:06 PM
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98. I have to second that
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:15 AM
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4. Righteous rant! I hope you feel better now.
I am so weary of the hate. The pResident himself called me unAmerican because of my political affiliation. Now I am a fascist socialist(?!)

I am weary of the hatred, and I have resolved to do what I can to starve that wolf.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:32 AM
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8. Much better, thanks n/t
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:10 AM
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17. Good.
That makes me smile, for some reason. It's gotta feel good to get all that off your chest.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:17 AM
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5. Amen, with an added great big F.U. to all the corporate/DLC Dems who aided and abetted all this
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 01:19 AM by abq e streeter
or at the very least, stood by idly and allowed it to happen.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:59 PM
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89. I'd add a couple of extra FUs to that, myself!
While I'm already passing them out.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:23 AM
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6. K/R - this is the response that should be sent
to anyone who forwards those idiot RW e-mails. And if they're turned off by the language, too bad.
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:29 AM
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7. Very nice rant!!
I'll second all of the above "Fuck You's"!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:37 AM
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10. PROPHET, YOU ARE MY KIND OF MAN
:thumbsup:
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:39 AM
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11. That was sweet! Can I steal it ?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:44 AM
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12. Go right ahead n/t
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:53 AM
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14. Thnx :)
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:45 AM
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13. Cheney dis-memebered hitchhikers? k&r anyway
I am angry too. Cheney is dangerously insane.

The stupid and class greed is on us shit fog heavy and violent.

The murders and crimes of ginned up wars are real.

Empathy and morality are too often viewed and treated as weaknesses to be demonized in individual lives and our cultural commons.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:55 AM
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15. Pure fucking poetry
Every repuke on the planet should be forced to read this.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:24 PM
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114. nevermind.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 09:25 PM by Sebastian Doyle
Wrong spot.
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NYMountaineer Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:04 AM
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16. Damn Straight.
Time to bring the hammer down.
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DueDiligence Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:20 AM
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18. Outstanding essay Prophet.
Your rant speaks for many of us who yearn for the truth, and despise the lies.


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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:24 PM
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104. Welcome to DU, DueDiligence
:toast:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:25 AM
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19. There's one part in this that I would really like to use from time to
time. "scumridden shitehawks"

I like it. K/R
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:15 AM
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20. lol, feel free n/t
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:13 AM
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21. Bee-yoo-tee-ful! My favorite part:
"You've rewritten history so that everything foul and hateful and wrong can be attributed to a Democrat while everything worthwhile is a Republican's glory."

That's it in a nutshell. :applause:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 12:02 PM
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156. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:19 AM
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22. Republican is a euphemism
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 07:21 AM by The Wizard
For bigoted, hateful, authoritarian, totalitarian, Ku Klux Klan, skinhead, treasonous, dumb ass, knuckle dragger, mendacious, prevaricating, corrupt, chicken hawk, short peckered...... And yes, anti American.
No one cares what Republicans have to say unless it's under oath.
No one believes what Republicans have to say even if it is under oath.
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:11 PM
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94. Boy...
...they sure seem to care in southern states.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:38 PM
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107. By the southern states
do you mean the Confederacy? I wonder how long the Confederacy would last without the reconstruction money they've been getting since the end of the Civil War.
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 04:25 PM
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163. Actually...
...who cares? The system is what it is and that's it.

Yes, I mean the Confederacy. And there's nothing you can do about it.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:26 AM
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23. Righteous rant.
:thumbsup:
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:33 AM
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24. Thank you, Prophet 451!
I, for one, feel much better now for having read this!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:41 AM
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25. K&R!
:thumbsup:
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:47 AM
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26. K&R Just what I needed this morning.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:49 AM
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27. No apology or warning needed
You are right on. I wish the motherfuckers would just shrivel up and go away.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:52 AM
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28. k&r!!!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:01 AM
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29. Dear Prophet 451
Your last paragraph is beautifully thought out and worded, but alas, I just know it's wasted on the Illiterati Idiocracy class. Perhaps they'll understand the last sentence, but other than that it's just too darn intelligent.

"I'm sick of your corporatism. You dress it up in false populism but anyone with half a brain can see that you're the brought and paid for subsidiary of big business. You keep pushing tax cuts as the answer for absolutely everything, you keep sabotaging every attempt to control the excesses of big business. You geuinely think the world would be a better place if it was a combination of Bill Gibson's dystopian vision of a corporate dominated world and Ayn Rand's bullshit Objectivism, yet another entry in mankind's endless attempts to find a moral justification for naked greed. You've taken the clinically insane spewings of a woman literally to the right of Hitler (pardon my Godwins) and the 1984-like vision of a dystopian author and convinced yourselves that would be a good place to live. Big business is the enemy of the people, always has been. The ideal for the corporate class is to have a small pool of people rich enough to buy their fucking crap and a much larger pool of people so poor and with so few options that they can be used and abused at the corporation's whim. A corporation's objective is not to look after you, it is to make ever-larger profits by any means necessary. You bastards want to reinstate fucking slavery to the corporate class and you've made the public so fucking stupid that they actually swallow the bullshit you're serving up, they actually want to enslave themselves to the corporations that abuse them at every turn. They actually care more about the corporations right to make obscene profits than they care about their child's right to live on a habitable planet. Fuck you.

Fuck you, you scumridden shitehawks, you make me sick. Just fuck off and die."
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JW Pierce Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:12 AM
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30. Therapeutic!
I registered just to say "Excellent rant!" and "thank you!" No time now, but plan to return later. I really like the DU site.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:44 PM
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50. Welcome! Glad to have you on board!
Look forward to your future posts.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:50 PM
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178. Hey, hey class of 56, nice post isn't it?
Being a class of 56 also, all this repub bs is mind boggling. What happen to thinking? Not that I haven't voted repub in my past, but, what the hell is going on in this country I so respected. Never looked for perfection, just improvement, not digressing into a feudal system.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:51 PM
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65. Welcome!
Nice to have you aboard and thanks for the kind words.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:23 AM
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31. Yes!
What you said!

:applause: :yourock:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:28 AM
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32. K&R
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:45 AM
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33. OMG what a wonderful rant. I love it!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:53 AM
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34. I share your outrage but never could in a zillion years say it as eloquently as you have
A righteous rant indeed!!

Thank you.

:applause:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:53 AM
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35. If depression is anger toward ones self, your rant is the cure! Anger directed rightfully
Thank you. I was wondering if there were some personal lacking that was making me less patient, less accepting, less accommodating with some people along my daily route. Nope, it is not me at all. It is them and they have just pushed it too damned far.

Thank you. Now, maybe I can be kinder to myself for reaching the point of not being able to put up with one more thing from these un-American lying tools of multinational corporations that don't even see us as human beings, let alone see that America is a great nation that is saved through justice.

Yep.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:54 PM
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66. I believe in the motivational power of anger
I actually suffer from MDD (Major Depressive Disorder) but, as teh Bard said, "there comes a point".
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:33 PM
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123. You ever notice
that we can be angry and still make sense like you did, but when the right is angry they don't even understand what they're angry about?

Nice job!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:18 AM
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147. Yeah, I noticed that n/t
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:14 AM
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36. It's much more powerful without the "fuck yous",
You make some excellent points, but any 13 year old can (and does) say 'fuck you'. So what? It's about the safest thing in the world to say in a post in an anonymous message board full of like-minded people.

And again, framing each paragraph with the same opening phrase ("I'm sick of <blank> ") has been done to death, and may be under copyright, given the frequency I see it used in a certain member's screeds.

Profane rants are always good for recs, though, so rock on I guess.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:55 PM
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67. Which is why I don't do it very often
but occasionally, you just have to cut loose.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:15 AM
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37. Focus that anger on democratic leadership...
The dem leadership should be as angry as you are and cutting these shitheads down to size. But where are they? Playing kissy face with the right wing politicians. When Republicans regain control, all this bi-partisan shit will be out the window and we'll be even weaker than before Obama.

The republicans field whacko candidates so they can blaze the trail for their extremist agenda. In essence they are desensitizing Americans to accept a new type of extreme right wing agenda. This strategy is so completely effective they control the health care debate, they make torture something legit, we think its OK for companies to strip mine sick people for profits.

There are a few truths with republicans - the "free" market, their guns, their bibles, their racism, their violence. But this bothers fewer Americans than ever because as long as the media whackos spew this stuff all day long, eventually it becomes the truth and we accept it as the quintessential American experience.

Direct that anger at the supposed opposition. Unfortunately I'm afraid the more research you do into the democrats and republicans the more they are, in fact, the same and that is why you won't see democratic leadership as much as whimper against republicans. Our leadership is simply too weak and unprincipled. Its all about the money and nothing more.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:42 AM
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39. Absolutely agree--I'm at least as angry with our "leadership" for not standing up to this shit
and thereby allowing the repubs to do all the things the OP , and you, I, and all of us , are so furious about and disgusted with. I have a post above with a big F.U. to our gutless, complicit "leadership" too.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:30 AM
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45.  ... welcome to DU.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 11:30 AM by redqueen
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:57 PM
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68. Oh, I got a big can of "fuck you" for them too
It was just that this particular rant was set off by Republicans so they got the brunt of it.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:59 PM
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120. Rahm Emanuel thinks he can coast through 2010 mid terms...
...as long as there is no change. He's betting the house on the new powerful republican wing of the democratic party. Its an arrogant gamble since grass roots are becoming angry and demotivated. I won't be working for any dem candidates this time around. Nor donating a dime to the dem party. In Texas maybe democrats don't matter but he's really sucked the wind out of modest forward progress for democrats.

Becoming a republican is the only way to have any influence with this democratic leadership. DAMN IT- where are the real democrats with strong principals, proud of democratic ideals and defending them and making them legit and beating down the right wing bullshit spewing forth every day? Are we all republican now? All free-marketeers? All "centrists"?

The "centrists" (i.e. right wing republicans and democrats) are also suffocating protest and reform. I would happily trade soaring rhetoric for meat and potatoes advocacy of the democratic party and the values that are supposed to make us better than republicans. We need good public policy to make us strong and competitive. Preserving CEO salaries, the CIA's "morale", oil and corporate profits are way down the priority list. People first, corporate monopolies last. Fuck em all.




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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:42 AM
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149. I've wondered that too
Specifically, if we are all free marketeers now. I honestly think we might be or, at least, there is no-one to say otherwise. Obama is as centreist and as "free markets uber alles" as anyone the Dems have sent to Washington in years. Here (Britain), the Labour party, which was explicitely socialist for most of it's existance, is now outright corporatist. I think, in the rush of "defeating" communism, the West may have fallen victim to the fallacy of the excluded middle and forgotten that there is anything between dog-eat-dog unregulated capitalism and outright communism.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:30 AM
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38. Just read this and had to post it on my FB wall
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 09:31 AM by Mabus
:thumbsup:

K&R
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:57 PM
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119. you know it!
I'm right there with you!
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:46 AM
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40. I couldn't agree with you more!!!
Thank you for so eloquently putting into print the thoughts that have ruined many a good night's sleep for me recently. Unfortunately the Rethugs have taken to heart all the lessons put forth by Dr. Goebbels (yes Virginia, THAT is FASCISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and have put the "Big Lie" theory of communication into daily practice. That decision, coupled with their ownership and dominance of a few Mouth=Breathing radio hosts and their Party TV outlet (FUX News) makes it possible to drive the message home again and again to a lazy and intellectually incurious populace. My conclusion is the same as yours - FUCK 'EM!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:21 PM
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74. Refuge in Audacity
Essentially, you can get away with anything if you're brazen enough about it.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:31 AM
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41. I'm disappointed....
It wasn't nearly as foul as I expected...


:7

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:36 AM
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42. K&R
Excellent!
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hgovernick Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:25 AM
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43. Pass the ammo...
Great rant... I wish I could have ranted it better myself, but I don't believe I could have added anything rantier.

I will say, however, that I am one of those (somewhat rare?) Democrats who believe in the right to bear arms, having a concealed weapons permit. With rants like this, I might recommend those outspoken Democrats and others who have been pro-gun control to reconsider the advantages of their second amendment rights.

The way things seems to be developing, those against whom you have ranted more than likely can out-gun you... is that the next phase of the development of our Democratic Republic?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:42 PM
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61. Good question
I'm actually pro-gun rights myself (despite being British where all handguns are banned), subject to some sensible restrictions (and I still think one should be a basic safety test).
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 04:27 PM
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164. To Be Perfectly Honest...
...yes, I think that's what's coming next. That's why so much money and resources are going into Homeland Security.

We haven't had a civil war in a very long time. That's not something we like to think about but frankly, we're due. We're overdue.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:29 AM
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44. K& FUCKING R!
:applause:

BRAVO! :yourock:
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:36 AM
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46. Chappaquidick, Schmappaquidick
When FReepers start with that shit, I call 'em out:

"What have you done to help children?"

"What have you done to help students?"

"What have you done to help servicemen and women?"

"What have you done to help veterans?"

"What have you done to help older folks?"

etc. etc. etc.

:rant:

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:26 PM
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47. KNR x 10,000
F*N BRAVO!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:40 PM
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48. ditto.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:43 PM
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49. That's fucking telling them!
:yourock: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 12:48 PM
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51. K & R.....
and may I add...a great big fuck you for 9-11 which happened on YOUR watch, for Katrina with happened on YOUR watch, for wars based on lies which happened on YOUR watch, for the mess you plunged the economy into under Bush jr on YOUR watch and which you are now trying to blame Obama for.
Lets not forget a great big fuck you for the fenced in cages the left had to demonstrate in under Bush but now you are disrupting town hall meetings and killing Doctors.
Another big FU for the fear of the police this nation now feels since you let so many thugs into the force and have let Blackwater train them.
And speaking of Blackwater...fuck you for the hired mercenaries used on American citizens during Katrina..you bastards. Fuck you for all the innocent Iraq people Blackwater has murdered was well.
If every republican dropped dead tomorrow, global warming would be cured from all the hot air you assholes spew.
If every republican dropped dead tomorrow, the water would be cleaner, the air better to breath and a lot of third world nations would be free of your greedy wars.
You are the scourge of the earth and the bane of human beings with a conscious everywhere. Everything you touch turns to crap for the people as you rape and plunder.
To hell with you and may God damn you forever for the harm you have caused..not only for America but for the Earth.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:04 PM
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52. K&R
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:12 PM
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53. excellent rant
i concur :applause:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:34 PM
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54. The drink may kiss the frosted glass; the GOP can kiss my ass.
Thanks.

:thumbsup:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:52 PM
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82. Cute. Gotta remember that one. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:35 PM
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55. K & R
:kick:
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Rocky L Rottweiler Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:37 PM
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56. Anger - A Rant (the Short Form)
Dear Republikkkans:

Eat shit and die.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:46 PM
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63. Not venomous enough
I actually had problems with the OP because I couldn't think of words in English that conveyed my venom strongly enough.
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byebyegop Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:46 PM
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57. Don't hold back, tell us what you really think. n/t
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 01:55 PM
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58. This should be printed on the front page of every newspaper in the country
I am *still* ashamed of my country. These assholes are destroying it, and their blithering idiot followers are letting them.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:59 AM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:12 PM
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59. Good rant . . . and especially liked the concept of the military being run right ...!!!
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 02:17 PM by defendandprotect
It would be great if every American began to challenge what the hell we are
doing with this military/intelligence power .... looks like pure destructive use
to me!

But, also I think we need more focus on the privatizing of government --
the buying of our elected officials. The "Billionaires for Wealthcare" have it right:

"Invest in Government: Buy a Congressman Today"

AND . . . while many Americans did get the involvement of Fox News/John Ellis in the
2000 election steal, the GOP-sponsored fascist rally to stop the vote counting in
Miami-Dade County, and the final play to the right wing Supremes to put W into the
White House and the 2004 election that followed --- and, they seem to get the overall
idea that the corporate press is a right wing propaganda machine of lies . . .

Unfortunately they don't seem to get that the idea that neither the right wing political
violence/assassinations America has suffered, nor the elections steals we've suffered for
perhaps decades, could possibly be being pulled off successfully without the assistance of
our corporate press!


PS: Keep in mind that a comment made by John Dean to Nixon on the White House tapes
suggests that Nixon may have had some involvement in creating a "bear trap" for Teddy
that weekend ---- ???????

Someone recently resurrected this thread from last year --
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Also --

The large computers used by MSM began coming in during the mid-1960's and the individual
electronic voting machines used by the public began to come in during the late 1960's ...
coincidentally about the time we were passing The Voting Right Act.

Two journalists began to investigate computer voting at that time.

See: Votescam/The Stealing of America
http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:38 PM
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60. K+R
Wish we could sticky this to the home page....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:42 PM
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:21 PM
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75. Make some paragraphs. Welcome to DU. n/t
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:41 PM
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80. Dude, PARAGRAPH BREAKS!
Think my eyes just imploded....

Now then. First off, fascism and oligarchy are NOT leftist political systems. These words have distinct meanings, learn them and love them. Both are, by definition, rightist systems (extreme right, in fascism's case). "Fascism" does NOT equal "authoritarian". All fascist systems are authoritarian but not all authoritarian systems are fascist. An authoritarian system is one which abuses human and/or political rights, fascism is a specific set of reasons for doing so.

Secondly, Hitler was NOT a leftist. Stalin was and yes, when you get to the extremes of the political spectrum, the actions of both sides look very similar but their reasons are very different (see above).

Thirdly, the right and left are NOT defined by "more government" and "smaller government". That's just plain wrong. No leftist wants more government just for the hell of it, that's just bullshit.

Fourthly, stream of consciousness writing is difficult to understand. Have a thought, start a paragraph, explain your thought and then start a new paragraph.

Finally, this is DemocraticUnderground. While that doesn't necessarily mean you have to agree with everything Obama does (Lord knows, I don't), it does mean that random baseless accusations like "cult of personality" have no place here.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:48 PM
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64. Whoa! I need a cigarette
and I don't smoke. Absolutely fantastic.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:08 PM
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71. Herbals
My Grimmer (grandmother) swore by them. I'll stick to teh real thing.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:00 PM
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69. K&R. nt
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Syntheto Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:07 PM
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70. Another Straw Man argument...
...We don't need the Republicans to pass a thing. You'd be better aiming your vitriol at those coy Democrats in conservative districts who don't want to lose their seats.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:20 PM
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73. I could rant about them too
and may do so at some point.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:22 PM
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76. I hope you will. :^) n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:19 PM
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72. DU CHALLENGE!!: Send this to EVERY republicant you know. K & R. n/t
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:02 PM
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111. If they won't read the health care bill...
they will discredit this as well,
Sad but the Re-Pube_lick-Cans I know, would be glad to see
a rant like this because they know they are pissing us off.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:24 PM
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77. Forget the 10 Commandments, *this* should be plastered on the walls of every public building!
:woohoo:

Could plaster it on the walls of Free Republic but nothing will adhere to a slime-covered surface...

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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:29 PM
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78. Pure righteous anger I agree with every word
I would kick this one a thousand times if could. Good on you Prophet.


Peace
Max
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:37 PM
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79. Kick &Recommended!!!
you said it all...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 03:43 PM
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81. Fugging perfect
K&R
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:00 PM
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83. Could not have said it better!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:04 PM
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84. Preach it, brother!!

You tell 'em!

:applause:

K&R
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:07 PM
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85. Three cheers!
:woohoo:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:13 PM
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86. Just reading that made me feel better....thanks.
But in real life I would not be so hard on them....but I would like to be sometimes.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:02 PM
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90. Oh, I know
In the meatworld, they're often more sympathetic but as a mass, sometimes I just want to throttle the lot of them.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:25 PM
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87. Great rant that should get wide public exposure. Omit the F-bombs and send it as an
op-ed piece to your local paper. Outstanding reminder of the crap these Repugs have pulled and their attempt(and ability)to write history through control of the MSM.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 04:56 PM
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88. That was AMAZING! I'm glad someone feels just like me.
:hi: :hug:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:10 PM
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91. Prophet, I believe you captured the gist of the situation.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 05:12 PM by Uncle Joe
I also believe you expressed it in a manner that some Republicans might understand, because you broke through the clutter to the simplicity of the matter.

Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread. :thumbsup:
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:11 PM
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92. F them for destroying education, and creating a generation of bleating sheep.
What if schools taught kids to actually think? But no, they learn to take a BS test and to hate school.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 05:53 PM
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93. Nicely stated.
and yes the Repukes are heavily invested in the destruction of our President and they have indeed corrupted the public discourse. However, just under 1 year ago 53 percent of the voting population in this country over 63 million said "Yes We Can"

So my question to our leaders is then "Why Aren't We"?

Democrats are not leading on the issues and that allows the Repukes to scare up the phantoms of Marxism, Socialism, Communism, totalitarianism.....
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:25 PM
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97. Oh, I'm terrified
You're wrong, on all counts. YOU started the mudslinging back in '93, YOU started using words you don't understand ("socialism" does not mean what you think it does, crack a book if you can read), YOU ignore science and YOU are the fuckwads who turned politics into a knifefight.

In conclusion, I'd love to bat you around a bit longer but your concrete pizza should show up soon so I'll end this with a FUCK YOU but have a nice day.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:18 PM
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96. Right on. After watching this Hunter moron trying to justify torture on tweety, I feel like spitting
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 06:19 PM by HughMoran
God damned repukes are hate-filled liars who should not be given any outlet to spew their riot-inducing hate anywhere where human beings are exposed to it.

:mad:
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:45 PM
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99. K&R
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:53 PM
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100. Truth.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:06 PM
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101. Damn good rant
Loved it!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:11 PM
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102. Great rant with one very small problem
The "official date" for the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe was November 9, 1989, the day the Berlin Wall opened. Reagan wasn't president then. The evil but clueless GHWB through neglect managed to let the Soviet Union die on the vine.

Ronald Reagan extended the lifespan of communism by at least eight years, because he provided the Soviet Politburo with the convenient bogeyman they so desperately needed. If Carter would have won reelection the Soviets would have been gone in, at latest, 1983 because Carter's policy was just to stand back and let them go under. Reagan forced massive Soviet defense expenditures that managed to sustain communism long after it should have been gone.

My view of it all is Soviet communism collapsed because the Soviet people were tired of wearing "Ohio Jean" (the most popular brand of blue jeans in the USSR was "Ohio Jean"--with all the fashion-forward sensibility of Lower Sandusky, Ohio Jean wore like a cast-iron frying pan and was nearly as flexible) and wiping their asses on toilet paper with metal shavings in it. Reagan fucked that up.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:42 PM
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108. I know that, you know that...
...the Rethugs, not so much. I take the view that Soviet Communism was doomed to failure anyway and Reagan actually had little effect on it.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:52 PM
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118. I take the view that Reagan's efforts set back democracy in Europe
Soviet Communism had one huge flaw: no foreign trade to speak of. They only traded with their client states. If you don't have money coming in from outside the country your economy is doomed to collapse, which is going to happen to us if we don't quit outsourcing every fucking thing we possibly can. China figured that shit out quick: Chinese communism can last forever if they want it to because the Chinese are trading with every country in the world.

Now, if Reagan would have just set back and let the Sovs collapse of their own accord, which was gonna happen, all would have been swell. But no--he hadda prop up every tinhorn dictator he could get his hands on, and he fucked up the whole thing.

The Repukes say Reagan spent the Soviet Union into bankruptcy. He spent the United States into bankruptcy too, but you never hear about that.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:05 PM
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125. I've had similar thoughts & you have a good point
I've argued lots of reasons why outsourcing is a competitive disaster for us, however, the link between China's political longevity and trade, and our out sourcing mantra is something I've never really considered. Democrats and republicans seem determined to sell off every bit of America piece by piece like those M&A guys on wall street who buy and sell companies only for the purpose of selling off the pieces and lining their own pockets.

I also argue vigorously that George the Second deliberately started a new cold war era with the old Soviets and should be remembered as the US president who helped these old soviet birds rediscover their nationalistic roots. Putin has responded to US aggression and warmongering in the only way he knows how. Soviet style.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:21 AM
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151. You're really limiting yourself on the "cold war" comment
You are quite correct that GWB restarted the Cold War. Unfortunately, he didn't limit himself to the Soviets--with his "old Europe and new Europe" comment, he attempted to pull some of America's oldest and dearest allies--especially France, who was our very first ally--into a cold war against us. The installed president of the United States sexually harassing the elected chancellor of Germany was not the finest moment in American foreign policy. But she probably eked out what passes for an apology after she got him ripped at the G-8 meeting and we now have a president she likes, so things are better between our nations now.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:00 AM
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139. Hmm, good point
I hadn't considered that.
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:22 PM
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103. K&R
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:30 PM
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105. My heart swims with joy !
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:32 PM
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106. Bravo! Out Fucking Standing. Really. nt
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jimspeer Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:52 PM
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110. My God, that's Great!!
You've captured my feelings exactly!
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dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:51 PM
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109. Yes. yes yes yes
YES!


I like the way you think Prophet 451.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:07 PM
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112. I feel so much better, now. Thanks for shoving truth in their faces, and in their own language.
They have become the party of manipulators,...of the weak, disillusioned, insecure, angry and afraid.

Hmmm,...just like any cult.

They have lost any sense of dignity, integrity or moral decency. I've come to expect that from the Republican party.

However, the Democratic party HAD BETTER to do better job BEING of dignity, integrity and moral decency. Otherwise, the cultists will overcome them. I'm just sayin',...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:15 PM
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113. "I'm horrified! I smeared my opponent, bribed the press to be on my side,
and threatened to torture the electorate if we lost. I fail to see what more a decent politician could have done." :D



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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:26 PM
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115. Mike Malloy will read this rant on the air in about 10 minutes. (10:35 Eastern/ 7:35 Pacific)
Unfortunately, he will have to conform to FCC rules and bleep out all the "fucks", but the spirit of the rant should be there.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:01 AM
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140. HOLY CRAPFUCK!
Didn't see this at the time, anyone have a link to the show?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:42 PM
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116. Malloy is reading your shit! W00T!
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 12:40 AM
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131. The folks on Democracy Interactive
were blown away, so I graciously shared.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:02 AM
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141. Wow dude
Thanks, I'm really flattered. Now, I just need to find a link to the show.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:47 PM
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K & R
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:47 PM
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117. This is a 5 star rant, dude.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:06 PM
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121. Ya took the words right out of my mouth! Love 'ya for it! Good job. You
get an A+

:woohoo:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:06 PM
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122. I am in awe.
I feel every bit of what you have expressed. Thanks for giving it voice!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:50 PM
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124. But there are so many
with only half a brain.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:13 PM
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126. C'mon now. Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel (lol)
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:31 PM
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127. It's come to this. They deserve every bit of it.
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yawnimawke Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:50 PM
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128. Bravo!
You have put down in words what I have been wanting to say for some time now. I bow to your rant!
:applause:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 12:20 AM
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129. This is so fucking awesome
Seriously, SO FUCKING AWESOME. May I reprint this in emails or wherever? (With your attribution of course!)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:05 AM
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142. Go right ahead! n/t
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 12:37 AM
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130. Don't know whether anyone has let you know,
but Mike Malloy read this rant on his show tonight.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:07 AM
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143. Just read that upthread
Trying to find a link to the show now.
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Vroomfondel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 01:08 AM
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132. Too good to keep in the ether
I feel like getting a good ole bucket-o-glue, a brush, a hundred copies of this, and goin' to town.



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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:08 AM
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144. Feel free! n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 01:29 AM
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133. Fuckin' a. Awesome rant.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 01:56 AM
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134. Prophet, this is brilliantly written.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:12 AM
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146. Cheers man! n/t
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 02:11 AM
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135. I love this rant. I need something like it everyday. Okay? Thanks. n/t
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:11 AM
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145. lol, I'll try n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:51 AM
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136. Great rant.
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:24 AM
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137. funny ... fascism is much closer to conservatives than they are comfortable with ...
1.0 Nationalism - Partial Yes (fascism was very intensly patriotic spilling even to economic functions!)
1.1 Exhalting race - YES. "White supremism" - anyone?

2.0 Expansionist Imperialism - YES (We present Iraq, Afghanistan as case studies for Dick's penchant for nation building!)

3.0 Authoritarianism - YES (DICK! - the leader behind the BUSH mask)

4.0 Social Darwinism - YES (In order for nations and races to survive in a world defined by perpetual national and racial conflict, nations and races must purge themselves of socially and biologically weak or degenerate people while simultaneously promoting the creation of strong people!)

5.0 Social interventionism - NO

6.0 Indoctrination - YES

7.0 Social Policies - MIXED
7.1 Abortion - YES (Fascism hated abortions!)
7.2 Eugenics - Unclear
7.3 Euthansia - No

8.0 CULTURE - YES (Conservatives are 99.99% white, southern male)
8.1 Limited Role for Women - Yes (unless they are more radical than the men or drop-dead good looking with zero brains - Eg: Palin!)
8.2 Opposition to Homosexuality - YES

9.0 Nationalized Economics - NO
9.1 Economic Planning - NO (something fascism agreed with socialism!)
9.2 Social Welfare - NO (It is sad that US doesn't even have the min. standards of healthcare benefits that fascist Italy had!)

With all this factual data, i wonder how the republicans can be so stupid to call Obama/Dems as fascist!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:32 AM
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148. Yes and no
The idiots on the right keep using "fascist" as a synonym for "authoritarian".

I would partially disagree with 1.1. I think the right's true allegiance is more to money and class than to race but I think we can give a very firm YES to 1.0. The right have tried to take exclusive control of the flag for use as a campaign ornament.
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:21 AM
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150. agree ...
looks like the republicans like authoritarian only if the person has a "R" tag after their name!
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:34 AM
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138. kickety kickety kick! n/t
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:37 PM
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152. still an excellent post - spot on
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:29 AM
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153. Hope we can keep this kicked forever.
It's what I'm feeling. I'm listening to Mike read it now.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:33 PM
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162. Got a link?
I missed it when he read it originally, I'd like to hear it.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:11 PM
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167. I've clipped it.
I don't know how to upload to YouTube. I tried to upload the .wav file and it said "invalid file format." If some kind soul wants to PM me, I can send them the clip for upload. Or if you want to PM me, maybe I can email it to you.

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 06:10 PM
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169. PM on it's way n/t
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 06:21 PM
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171. Clip sent.
I managed to get the clip into the MPEG4, but it still will not process on YouTube. I give up. :banghead:
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 04:05 AM
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154. Can't "R" but can "K". ... n/t
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monkeycollector Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 12:55 PM
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161. anger rant
right on... i'm so fucking angry myself... try living in montana with this bullshit...
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veritasvg Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 04:30 PM
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165. As I Told Someone Else Here...
...earlier today, eventually we're gonna be in the streets with this. One side will be standing when it's all over and that's it.

If history is any sort of indicator at all, I think a lot of American liberals will go ex-pat. It's either that or get cut down like animals.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:07 PM
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166. I have concerns about that
In terms of sheer numbers, the hardcore right are in the minority but from my point of view here (in Britain), it seems that they are vastly more motivated. Look, I don't like to throw this word around much because I know too well what it means but what we are seeing here is the formative steps of fascism: A nationalist faction, emerging from a mostly rural and.or uneducated populace, calling for a return to some imagined golden age and willing to embrace violence to do so. Here, we have a long history of getting out in the streets and fighting them (see The 43 Group or the Battle Of Cable Street) but there, it seems that people are unwilling to actually fight.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:57 PM
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168. Wow. I feel better just seeing this in black and white. You should publish it in
other places as well. Send it to Harmann and Malloy. Seriously, as many people should see it as possible, even if you have to redact a few words. This post should be the starting point for policy discussions going forward.

A friend of mine happens to be solidly RW although now that he's out of power he decries the behavior both parties and all government, as though there's no difference between right and left.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 06:12 PM
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170. Malloy has read it on air
Apparently, someone on this thread thought it was good enough, passed it on to him and he read it on air (removing teh cuss words, naturally).
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:54 PM
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172. Oh, and the Freepers hate it
My other half did a Google search on my username for some reason and discovered that this rant has been posted to a few blogs and the FREEPERS posted it on their site to mock, well, me mostly and instead of debunking my points, they just restate their lies ever louder.
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Lizzie_Starbuck Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:33 AM
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173. you had me at "Fuck You"
;-)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 05:23 AM
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174. lol, cheers dude n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:26 AM
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175. Yeah!
K
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:37 AM
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176. Bra-Fucking-Vo !!!
:applause: :yourock: :applause:

:patriot:

:hi:
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TwoToneSpirit Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:33 PM
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177. Response
Please see my direct response to this letter:

http://justinholmes.com/2009/09/dear-republican-haters/
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:57 AM
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182. Thank you but...
...you seem to have mistaken this for a policy analysis. I have written such analysis of policies but that's not what this is. This is an outright rant, me expressing frustration by screaming insults. Why this one went viral when the others didn't, I do not know.
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Lonzo Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:25 PM
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179. Outstanding.
This is the kind of post that makes me feel great about this country. Free speech at it's best.
You can fool all of the people some of the time. Some of the people all of the time. But you can not fool all of the people all of the time. A.Lincoln.(REP.IL.)
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Omnibus Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:01 AM
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181. Wonderful rant.
This *precisely* sums up how I feel about Republicans.

We Democrats are good neighbors, but you Republicans can only shit in our pool so many times before we stop inviting you over.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:07 AM
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183. awesome rant, K& freakin R!!
n/t
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