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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:02 PM
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Bill Moyers is on Bill Maher tonight n/t
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:03 PM
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1. And he kicked ass...
...Very inspiring and insightful. Warning: those who put party above principle may not be comfortable with it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:04 PM
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2. I'm watching the repeat
Thanks
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:06 AM
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8. links to his show tonight..must see tv!!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:16 AM
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9. Geez! I've been so self/family/etal involved I MISSED IT!
Thanks for the links!!!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:25 AM
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10. Your links aren't helping me,...
,...where do I go?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:39 AM
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11. read the trasncript here:
snip:

LARRY CHURCHILL: For Americans right now I think the primary question is, "How vulnerable am I in terms of the current system? Am I just a pink slip away from being uninsured and potentially uninsurable?" And I think there's a very profound question about whether we are creating a health care system that is sustainable over time. Some people have suggested, and I agree with them, that, actually, the end product of all of this mess and confusion in technological innovation, is going to be a system that cannot be sustained, because it will be so expensive that only the extremely well to do, the elite, will have access to it.

DR. ANDREY ESPINOZA: When you have a system that's built around generation of revenue, when that revenue is going somewhere, and that money is not being put back into the system to help people, you've really kind of lost, you know, we've lost our way.

DR. DONALD BERWICK: I think that health care improvement at the systemic level has some of the properties of major social movements in this country: civil rights, environment. So many oxes to be gored, and a lot of people with oxen that won't get gored but think they will. And this, you know, the coalition of the people who would be better off and the people who are needlessly afraid of change, that is, they don't need to be afraid of change but they are, that's an immense coalition. That's eighty percent of America.

DR. JAMES WEINSTEIN: In my life my daughter caused me to change my life. And I said, "I don't want other people to have to do what she had to do." We have the compassion. We have some knowledge. We have technology, but we let so many things get in the way of the real ideals, the hippocratic principles, that we get lost in that system that Brieanna shouldn't have had to face and so many millions of other people shouldn't have to face.

DR. DONALD BERWICK: I think health care is more about love than about most other things. If there isn't at the core of this two human beings who have agreed to be in a relationship where one is trying to help relieve the suffering of another, which is love, you can't get to the right answer here. It begins so much for me in that relationship that everything that's built around that had better make damn sure that it's supporting them and not hurting it. And a lot of the structures that I am talking about-fragmented structures, transaction-oriented structures, competitive structures, forget that- forget that this is about two people meeting and that's all it's about.

BILL MOYERS: MONEY-DRIVEN MEDICINE, a film produced by Alex Gibney, Peter Bull and Chris Matonti; directed by Andy Fredericks; and based on Maggie Mahar's book of the same name.

Log on to pbs.org and click on BILL MOYERS JOURNAL - Maggie Mahar will be there to answer your questions online. We'll link you to the Money-Driven Medicine website where there's more info about the book and the film. We'll also link you to some analysis of what advocates of reform are up against in taking on the health insurance industry, the drug lobby, and the Wall Street equity firms.

Take a look at this recent cover of BUSINESS WEEK. Reporters Chad Terhune and Keith Epstein write that the CEO's of the giant insurance companies should be smiling - their lobbyists have already won. Quote: "no matter what specifics emerge in the voluminous bill Congress may send to President Obama this fall, the insurance industry will emerge more profitable."

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08282009/transcript1.html

And remember that television ad Barack Obama made as a candidate for president?

BARACK OBAMA: The pharmaceutical industry wrote into the prescription drug plan that Medicare could not negotiate with drug companies. And you know what, the chairman of the committee who pushed the law through went to work for the pharmaceutical industry making $2 million a year. Imagine that. That's an example of the same old game-playing in Washington. I don't want to learn how to play the game better. I want to put an end to the game-playing.

BILL MOYERS: Now look at this recent story in the LOS ANGELES TIMES.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health-pharma14-2009aug14,0,5896090.story Lo and behold, since the election, the pharmaceutical industry's $2 million dollars a year superstar lobbyist Billy Tauzin has morphed into President Obama's pal. Tauzin says the President has promised not to pressure the drug companies to negotiate with the government for lower drug prices and has agreed not to allow cheaper drugs to be imported from Canada or Europe - contrary to the position taken by candidate Obama…

Each of these stories illuminates the scarlet thread that runs through Maggie Mahar's book - the story of how today's market-driven medical system gives Wall Street investors life and death control over our health care, turning medicine into a profit machine instead of a social service to meet human need. That's the conflict at the heart of next month's showdown in Washington.

I'm Bill Moyers. See you next time.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:04 PM
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3. Bill Moyers always a gentleman, always a progressive, always hard-hitting and
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 10:07 PM by LaPera
always unbelievably informative....if one really listens, without their ego getting in the way.

I'll catch Maher's show at eleven tonight - pacific

Looking forward to seeing Moyers, who else is on...last week was fucking boring, some idiot actor in the middle of the panel.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:22 PM
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4. I only hope that Obama will watch the rerun.
Moyers provided a step-by-step plan for how Obama can grow a spine. Step 1 - think Teddy Roosevelt.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:36 PM
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5. Wow, that's kind of bending my mind!
They have many of the same beliefs but totally different styles. I can't wait to catch it online!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 11:28 PM
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6. Bill Moyers was SPOT ON.
:patriot:

He will be thrown under the bus as soon as someone posts a transcript.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 07:29 AM
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13. He was excellent
I hope they repeat it - the real pity is that Moyers was on at the same time as the Kennedy memorial. Every Democrat should see that discussion.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 11:30 PM
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7. He was great, as usual.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:43 AM
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12. I watched and really wished our president were watching as well.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:29 AM
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14. They say "a rising tide lifts all boats..."
"No", Bill said, "We are all in the same boat".
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