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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:37 AM
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Unbelievable chart on who's killing health care reform (large graphic)
Campaign for America's Future put together this chart:



http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009083524/whos-paying-kill-h
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:40 AM
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1. Jack Abramoff? Really? nt
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:44 AM
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2. Unless he shared
some of the same clients. :shrug:

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:51 AM
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3. The invisible Elephant in the room:
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 09:52 AM by formercia
The Council for National Policy has taken credit for a number of conservative victories in Congress. They include: the defeat of President Clinton's health plan; the defeat of the President's attempt to allow gays to serve openly in the military; the Whitewater hearings; sidetracking the Freedom of Choice Act; preventing the passage of the Fairness Doctrine in broadcasting; stopping the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) from prohibiting religious harassment in the workplace; and blocking the Lobby Reform Bill. Some members, such as John Doggett, testified on behalf of Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court.

http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/fw/9601/cnp.html

Dick Armey is a member and leading the fight against health reform.


..so was Jack Abramoff..and a lot of other CNP members and associates are active in the anti-public option campaign.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:08 AM
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6. Thank you for that
I had forgotten about the CNP's involvement in the gov't shut down.

It also explains the Abramoff connection better than I did.

:hi:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:34 AM
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11. And they call themselves a non-partisan, tax-exempt organization.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 10:35 AM by formercia
That needs to change.

I posted it as a stand-alone thread. The CNP is behind the vast majority of the anti-Obama campaign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x475121
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:31 PM
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14. Abramoff's former friends are still out there
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 01:46 PM by sabrina 1
continuing the work he was doing. One of them was just indicted for corruption in his dealings with Abramoff, Horace Cooper.

Cooper was also a longtime aide to Dick Armey and just before he was indicted, set up a 'Save Glenn Beck' website. He was also a well 'respected' Conservative pundit appearing on Fox News and even CNN. He was appointed to the Labor Dept. by George Bush, and much much more. Yet there was not a word about his indictment this week in the MSM or his role as a defender of Glenn Beck.

I wrote an OP based on the excellent investigative work of Dengre in which he reported the news of Horace Cooper's indictment http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x638412

So, while Abramoff appears to be still co-operating with authorities, his conviction didn't seem to stop much of the work he was assigned to do. Although with each new indictment (and there were a few this week, it does take a few more of them out of the field.

Edited to add that the story of Cooper's indictment was reported in the WAPO:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/21/AR2009082102858.html

The indictment charges Cooper agreed to use his position at Voice of America - and his subsequent job at the Labor Department - to advance the interests of Abramoff and his clients.


They're everywhere ~
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:52 AM
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4. Recommend
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:54 AM
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5. There is one factor however:These groups do not vote in House
or Senate.

Ultimately the people in House and Senate Vote. How they
vote really determines its outcome.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:10 AM
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7. Except that reps take $$
from all these groups, mostly famously our own blue dogs.

If they can take the money, then ultimately do what's right by voting FOR a publicly-financed option, then I'll be happy. But better to know how all these groups are interrelated.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:10 AM
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8. K&R
Thanks for posting this.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:16 AM
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9. You're welcome!
I was just amazed at the interconnectedness of it all.

:crazy:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:21 AM
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10. This is an incomplete chart. It doesn't show the half of what is going on.
Rachel Maddow has told us how FreedomWorks sponsors and supports a whole bunch of other organizations that are opposed to real reform.

I can't remember all their names right now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 09:57 AM
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19. Imagine how much larger and more complex it would be
if it were complete.

:crazy:



As the O'Jays said... all for the love of money.


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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:41 PM
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12. Jack Abramoff's racist connections. This will bake your noodle.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 12:44 PM by formercia
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/lhiff.html


http://www.seekgod.ca/abramoffdelay.htm
--snip--

In the scandal surrounding Jack Abramoff's indictments, and Tom Delay's indictments, there is much speculation as to who will be named in the expansive investigations of who knew what and who participated in possible illegal activities. While many report on the various connections, some touching on the political connections, some on the conservative, the christian coalition and Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority, what many seem to miss is the relationship of the many discussed, who hold or have held membership in the secretive Council for National Policy or CNP.

Founded in 1981, the first confirmed mention of Jack Abramoff as a member was from the CNP members telephone directory for 1984-1985. The final confirmed membership year was 1988, with a gap in information until 1996, when he is no longer listed as a member. However, Tom DeLay is listed as a member in 1996, 1998 and it is unknown if he remained a member. According to various news reports, Tom DeLay received gifts from former CNP member Jack Abramoff, and some reports state that, Delay once called Jack Abramoff, "one of my best friends." For More on the CNP See What is the CNP ; Council for National Policy 1996 Members ; Council for National Policy 1998 Members ; CNP Executives and the main CNP Index: http://www.SeekGod.ca/topiccnp.htm



What is noteworthy is that Jack Abramoff's International Freedom Foundation (IFF) was launched after he was a member of the CNP and he was no longer a member by the time questions arose concerning IFF, with the closing of IFF by 1993/94.



From the article which discussed the Newsday report, Front for Apartheid, which appeared in Newsday, Sunday, July 16, 1995, it alleged that Abramoff was an intelligence agent in 1983, along with others listed. It went on to say of the IFF: "

"...The International Freedom Foundation, founded in 1986 seemingly as a conservative think tank, was in fact part of an elaborate intelligence gathering operation, and was designed to be against apartheid's an instrument for "political warfare" against apartheid's foes, according to former senior South African spy Craig Williamson. The South Africans spent up to $1.5 million a year through 1992 to underwrite "Operation Babushka," as the IFF project was known.

The current South African National Defence Force officially confirmed that the IFF was its dummy operation.

"The International Freedom Foundation was a former SA Defence Force project," Army Col. John Rolt, a military spokesman, said in a terse response to an inquiry. A member of the IFF"s international board of directors also conceded Friday that at least half of the foundation's funds came from projects undertaken on behalf of South Africa's military intelligence, although he refused to say what these projects were except that many of them were directed against Nelson Mandela's African National Congress...."

--snip--
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:13 PM
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16. Excellent information, thank you
Abramoff was good at setting up dummy organizations.
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:44 PM
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13. Spread the chart. Email to everyone you know n/t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:12 PM
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15. kick!
:kick:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:14 PM
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17. We must not let these bastards win. nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 11:18 PM
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18. .
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