I finally got it today...Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh, et all absolutely QUAKING in their boots...

[youthere]

I was flipping the dial today perusing the plethora of right wingnut radio station that pollute my radio dial, and listened to them all literally FOAMING at the mouth about the IMUS firing. Rabid, vitriolic, outraged but most of all undeniably paranoid. They are all scared out of their wits because now my friends, there is at long last a PRECEDENT. The bar has been set and they know damn well it's only a matter of time before the disgusting, hateful verbal diarrhea they spew each and every day on the airwaves is going to be their undoing. Over and over they kept posing the same scenario: "You wait and see, it's only a matter of time before all this gets turned on CONSERVATIVE talk programming!"

[babylonsister]

1. Yea, too bad it didn't START with conservatives. Hard to believe that's

their label considering the swill they spew.

[youthere]

4. That's why they have to speak out against the IMUS firing so vehemently..

They know damn well they are on thin ice.

[gatorboy]

2. Yeah, but MOST conservatives like those bigoted type remarks.

That's why the group you listed use them.

[Leopolds Ghost]

35. OFFICIAL FIRE RUSH, BECK AND COULTER THREAD

We are launching a push against the big three offenders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x639819

The bar always existed. Now that the executives have discovered where
the bar is, we must hold them to it, or else pretend the firing was for
other reasons. :hi:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. No, that would be...

Hate Talk Programming. If the shoe fits...

I was predicting this exact scenario days ago.

[AndyA]

5. Thanks for clearing something up for me.

It's nice to finally know that hatred, bigotry, racism, murder, torture, war, and civil unrest are CONSERVATIVE talk programming values.

Appreciate it. :thumbsup:

[youthere]

17. I would never be so naiive as to label those traits as uniquely conservative...

there are assholes of every persuasion...the right just seems to be determined to perfect those traits.

[AndyA]

26. Thanks for the insult.

I guess I should have added the :sarcasm: smilie so some would "get it."

[youthere]

27. The asshole part was not aimed at you...

(sorry about that..should have been more clear) what I meant is that there are jerks on both sides of every issue. Sorry if I offended, it was certainly not meant that way.

[AndyA]

30. It's so hard to tell in a written post sometimes.

Please accept my apologies as well, I misunderstood.

I agree, both sides have their share of jerks. It just seems the ones on the right are much more prolific in their spewing of hate. Or, at least, they're harder to avoid, perhaps.

[youthere]

32. No Problem...

it is hard to judge mood on a message board, and I don't use the smiley menu much outside the lounge.
:silly:

[NormanYorkstein]

46. sure but on TV and radio it's nearly 100% cons doing the hating

On the internet it certainly goes both ways, libs give it as well as they get it. On the major corporate radio and TV stations, the "liberal" spectrum goes from Alan Colmes to Al Franken. There's just nothing that liberals are doing on radio and TV that compares to the hate speech and slurs on the converstaive side. It's not even close.

[Cha]

42. I call them Fascist Propoganda

Machines. Ain't nothing conservative about them.

[Casper Alabaster]

45. I see Hate Radio as

the fascist propaganda machine of conservative ideology. I'm not sure relying on the mechanisms of 'market' (advertisers) is going to be enough, but so far so good!

[Catherine Vincent]

6. I think you're right.

They are afraid. And they should be.

[Sequoia]

7. Oh Happy Day should that ever happen.

[NormanYorkstein]

8. they are scared now because he's off the radio

It seems TV is more skittish, but on radio they can get away with it more. The fact Imus is off the radio now really scares them.

Boycotting the sponsors *works* - we could make sure Limbaugh can only get sponsors like TrimSpa and MLM scams.

[MADem]

9. Well, those are the unintended consequences of this Imus firing.

But I'll bet they lay low for a few weeks, and then come back just as hateful as ever.

The goal here was to get rid of Imus. The only reason that worked is because the CORPORATE media gave the complainers (who have complained in the past but the corporate media never covered it) a stage, a microphone, and round-the-clock coverage.

See, if they say something hateful, and no one in the corporate media airs the complaints about it, it didn't happen!!

[Imagevision]

10. Limbaugh has to be called on the so-called first amendmant right of freedom of speech!!

[Casper Alabaster]

44. Unclear on your meaning. Abuse thereof? n/t.

n/t

[City Lights]

11. I hope they're shitting themselves.

Imus is only the tip of the iceberg, IMHO.

We're coming after them next!

[tanyev]

12. A precedent, a precedent,

A most ingenious precedent!
Ha! ha! ha! ha! Ha! ha! ha! ha!
A precedent!

[sandnsea]

13. Been saying this for days

You guys sincerely didn't get where all this spin was coming from? aargh

Now is the time to strike. I can't believe we have to convince any DUer of this clear fact.

[conscious evolution]

14. They should be afraid

Afraid of a war crimes tribunal.

[Robbien]

15. It is not just astronauts walking around in adult diapers these days

A whole bunch of highly paid chattering bigots have just found a urgent need to don a pair of the Depends formal wear.

[BOSSHOG]

16. One must wonder why they fear the FAIRNESS Doctrine so much

Fearing FAIRNESS? Must be a conservative value.

ray-gun fucked the fairness doctrine in the 80's and gave birth to limbaugh, hannity, et al. I guess conservatives can't operate in a fair environment.

[youthere]

18. Hannity took on an especially shrill tone today when bringing that up.

You know because HEAVEN FORBID (clutch your pearls!) people should hear both sides of an issue...next thing you know they start thinking and before you know it they get ideas....

:eyes:

[INdemo]

19. Not a chance

The right wing corporate media is just too powerful.....Rush Slimebaugh should have been fired a long time ago for statements he's made and the corporate media protected him then as they would now.

[malaise]

20. And that is the only reason why I give a damn

about the Imus saga. The people have told the advertisers enough hate talk.
Coulter better start shaking too. She was the straw before Imus broke the camel's back for absolutely no reason except arrogance and contempt for others. He fugged with the wrong institution and their women this time.

[youthere]

23. Do you think Imus would have gotten as much fallout...

if it hadn't followed Coulter's remark so closely? Just wondering.

[malaise]

36. I think both incidents are connected

People are fed up of Bushco's environment of hate.

[Jacobin]

21. They're all safe. they support the neo con agenda

Imus didn't. he waffled too much

[partylessinOhio]

28. True. He attacked Cheney and paid with his livelihood for it.

Goodbye Obama too. The backlash will take him out now.

[w4rma]

34. That's the point I haven't seen enough people make. Imus attacked Cheney and lost his protection.

As for backlash on Obama, I don't think it will come unless he is locked in for the nomination.

[Jacobin]

37. I think there is a difference there.

Imus is allowed to be on the airwaves by the corporations who own and run them. They rarely allow anyone to stay on the air for long who is not lockstep RWer.

I think its different with democratic candidates for office, don't you?

[DeepModem Mom]

22. K&R: Keith started this last night. I'm not sure this will happen tomorrow...

but I think there is change here. For one thing, I think there's a generational change. I don't think my daughter's Gen Y generation, the generation of the Rutgers team, is going to stand for this stuff.

[tulsakatz]

24. I was sorry to see Imus go.........

yes, he insults people but he's done that for years! The sad thing is, I don't think he meant to insult them, it was just a poor choice of words.......very poor choice.

But on the other hand, if it gets rid of some of the hateful, right wingnut talk radio, it will all have been worth it!!

They should be scared!!!

[Morgana LaFey]

40. you don't think he meant to insult them?

Yeah, we women LOVE being called ho's, and black women LOVE being called nappy headed. We hardly ever get upset about it, either.

Just a poor choice of words.

Just a joke.

DU doesn't permit what I'd like to say to you next.

[tulsakatz]

66. actually I am a woman........

...and I am well aware of what it means to be called a ho, whore, prostitute, etc

And no, I never use those words myself. Although I do think it is more commonplace for many people to use them.

Maybe he did intend to insult them but that wasn't my impression when I heard his comment.

[Casper Alabaster]

47. I've heard the soundbite that landed Imus on his ass

probably 10 times today. With a raspy snicker at the end. He most definitely meant to denigrate that team, which most Americans hadn't even heard of until last week. They had no connection to him whatsoever, let alone ever caused him harm. They're just college kids, FFS. They're not public figures, or at least they weren't before this.
He clearly meant to insult and denigrate them because the team is mostly black, and all were women. He used the airwaves to indulge himself in gettin real w/ his audience.
"Nappy-headed hos?", from a shriveled up bitter old white man? Oh Hell No!

[spooky3]

25. didn't some of these same people claim before that

Imus was being unfairly targeted because he was conservative?

[youthere]

29. I hadn't heard any of them take that angle..

though they very well might have. I've only heard them talking about how glad they were a liberal finally got what was coming to them-though Imus could hardly be labeled a liberal.

[spooky3]

49. thanks--I must have heard someone else saying it.

[Casper Alabaster]

43. I did a similar experiment as the OP today,

and the Goebbels talking point was that Imus supported Kerry in '04. Hadn't heard that one before, I suppose it's easy enough to find out. But yeah, the nazis on hate radio are apoplectic that Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are going to knock on the doors of their advertisers.
I wonder what kind of support either of them could garner for any political office if they could get these slime buckets fired from spewing their hate for fun and profit.
Can Limbaugh be gotten rid of in '08? Oh yeah...

[spooky3]

50. Imus may have said he supported Kerry but no one can verify if he

voted for him. I stopped listening to his program during the 04 campaign because I got so sick of the kinds of comments that got him in hot water AND because he frequently attacked Democrats unfairly. He seemed to decide whom to support based on who came on his show and charmed him at the moment or made for more entertaining shows, and the next day would take a contradictory stand. Maybe closer to the election he took a more consistent stance. By my definition, though, what I saw wasn't "supportive."

[Casper Alabaster]

52. I don't have a link or anything,

but all the wingnuts swear Imus admitted to voting for Kerry, so this is all a Hugh political win for them! Seriess11!!
Imus does have quite the impressive collection of political/media skeletons/guests in his closet though. He'll probably get a HuGh book deal, but he better line it up fast. By Monday, no reputable person will admit to ever having met him, leaving only his lawyers and accountants! Hahaha!:evilgrin:

[spooky3]

57. I think that he DID say that--my point is that it means nothing because

1) no one knows whether he actually did vote for him.
2) he may have said he voted for Bush on another day.

The general tone of discourse and attitudes expressed on the show by McCord and McGuirk in addition to Imus was conservative--and I'm not referring to just the bigoted comments.

[mimitabby]

31. you mean, they might start acting conservatively??? n/t

[youthere]

33. Good God NO!

that last thing we need is for people to treat each other civilly, and with decency for cryin'out loud! LOL!

[rasputin1952]

38. Boil Butt was talking like he is expecting to be 'attacked' in the

near future; and the little I listened to Beck, he was railing about Olberman's "List"...:scared:

It was the same old stuff, they are pushing their defenses forward because they havbe become worthy targets...:D

Next thhing you'll see is the complaints of how they are being

It is always the same thing w/bullies and arrogant assholes...now they will cry they are victims...:eyes:

[randr]

39. Chelsea Clinton

I only hope someone will resurrect the abuse heaped upon our first daughter by the evil right wing including, I believe, Sen. McCain.

[youthere]

41. they were outright cruel to her.

[Casper Alabaster]

48. I remember that back in the '90s...

big bad Limbaugh, pill-popping multi-millionaire blowhard, defends Murka from the horrible threat posed by the evil socialist puppetmaster Chelsea Clinton, 13 year-old...
(from wiki): Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh compared 13-year-old Chelsea to a dog:

* On November 6, 1992, three days after her father won the elections, when Chelsea was still in braces, Rush Limbaugh said the following: "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat; Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is also a White House dog?" He then pointed to a video monitor, which switched to a picture of Chelsea. Although Limbaugh has claimed that it was a technical error, as Al Franken documented in his book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, since the show was on a tape delay, if it truly was a technical error, it could have been corrected prior to airing of the show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton

[rasputin1952]

53. I remember that...it was a jaw dropping moment...

I didn't think anyone would ever stoop that low...little did I know...

[Neshanic]

51. So true, they will all be off the air in months.

You see, the Imus thing has shown that hate speech will not be tolerated. I mean who in their right mind would think that Rush, with one of the largest national audiences will survive? It's fantasy! I give him a few weeks and the corporation that broadcasts him will have him and Hannity and the others OFF the air. It's not like these people make any money for their companies, and it's not like the people who listen to them will tolerate what they say now. They all know they are wrong.

Us playing by PC rules and condeming all unPC has given us an advantage that the other side just does not understand, because we are the better people for it, and they know it, and now respect us even MORE!

So when the election cycle comes around and Imus is still a very fresh issue, and Rush, Hannity, Coulter, and all the big market conservatives are gone off the air, the country will be completely spared the ugly and nasty talking points, because they all if not learned a lesson, will be gone.

It makes my heart proud to see the new glorious day for us. Like that song, "programmed by guys with compassion and vision". That's our future, a controlled and benign government that works for US, and is free from all the bad things that the iMoment brought about.

The other side sees that it has lost. They will completely change.

Happy thoughts...

[youthere]

55. I don't know that I would go so far as to say they will be completely OFF the air...

but at the very least MSNBC and CBS have set a standard above the rest of the media outlets and said THEY won't tolerate it (hopefully others will follow) . I'm sure there will always be someone that will give the Imus'and Limbaughs of the world a bully pulpit but now we know LEGITIMATE media won't put up with this kind of behavior. CBS and MSNBC have made themselves the current "gold standard" for on air behavior. It may not be much, but right now, it's all we got.;-)

[Neshanic]

56. Why not? It's within weeks that this will occur, and the iMoment will be remembered every

time they open their mouth...so by the election in 08' it will still be standard.

Also all those rap hate speech songs, and videos will be off the air.

Happy thoughts...

[youthere]

60. Oh bullshit.

No one is stopping Imus from saying all the racist crap he wants...MSNBC and CBS just aren't allowing him to do it on their dime. Imus is free to apply for any job at any radio or television station who wishes to hire him and repeat the exact same thing if he chooses. Whoever his employer is will deal with it they way they choose to-that is their right.

[Casper Alabaster]

62. You're also wrong about rap,

so-called hate-speech (dissidents/partisans/terrorist's propaganda), and our videos.
Within weeks, all of the bad people who forced Imus to express his concern about black chicks he never met will control the Entire World! BWAAAhahaha! As you can see, you are really quite incapable of stopping us!
It is most unfortunate that you happened to notice that which will be edited from broadcasting, unfortunate indeed...:spank:

[Neshanic]

63. Oh my!

[Casper Alabaster]

65. It's all true!

The fundie christofascists unwittingly do our bidding. Just ask Imus. And watch your step, if you know what we mean.
The last thing we wanted was a media-scene, but people like you refused to be 'good Germans'. You people forced our hand!:spank:

[Casper Alabaster]

58. I'm not sure the use of the word "true" is acceptable,

as it implies a judgment demanded, imperceptible by mere human beings. The mere fact that a decision must be made makes your post highly suspect.
Not funny. At all. The general tone of your post draws scrutiny, and is altogether suspicious, which could lead to all sorts of unnecessary unpleasantness...
Happy Thoughts!:spank:

[Neshanic]

59. Thank you for pointing these items out! I will be more carefull in the shiny future.

[Casper Alabaster]

61. Future? Quite unacceptable.

You're discriminating against both the present and the past! You're a... a, time-ist! You're worse than Hitler!
OK, I lose!:dunce:

[Neshanic]

64. Oh no! Not that! I am crying as I type this!

[NNN0LHI]

54. Yes you have got it

This changes everything.

Don