Hate to say this but if "reform" passes without a public option

[mmonk]

and is signed into law, I'll probably lose my motivation to be politically active in 2010 or 2012 without progressive choices for office. I will fight no more forever. I need a damn break.

[Viper Mad]

1. I recommended...got it back to zero from negative

:shrug:
I sure hear you.

[mmonk]

5. Thank you.

I understand those who want to unrecommend but I have to speak my mind. It takes a lot of work to start at the precinct level and go through the process every year to help determining Party platforms and I just want it to feel like I'm accomplishing something. I'm self employed with two sons, one who is autistic, and all of this is a quality of life matter. I get mad when my representation can always be bought by monied lobbying interests. I can't compete with that. No matter how high the victory number margin is, it just doesn't seem to matter. Like me and my family.

[GrantDem]

2. Glad to get the recs back in the positive.

[panader0]

3. And if we get a "public option"

it will administered by the insurance companies, not by civil servants, and won't go into effect until 2013. Hell, by then I'll only be 2 years away from Medicare, if it still exists, and if I'm not dead by then.

[county worker]

6. Medicare is administered by for profit companies.

Look up Palmetto GBA

http://www.palmettogba.com/palmetto/palmetto.nsf/DocsCat/Home

Our county hospital uses Palmetto. We have no contact with civil servants. I believe there are four or five districts and the contract for medicare in each district goes to a for profit corporation.

[county worker]

4. I'm feeling the same way and I got a ticket to the inauguration.

[cui bono]

7. If it does is will be useless and worse than not having passed.

Everyone will consider it handled.

[mmonk]

9. Yes, that's what I'm worried about.

[cui bono]

12. Matt Taibi was pessimistic on the radio today...

but Howard Dean remains optimistic. So I guess we'll see.

I'm going to go to "red" country and attend a Rethug's town halls with my friend throughout this week. I'm wondering what I'll encounter. It's in southern California.

[stray cat]

8. It will be a shame to have another 8 years of someone like Bush

and not good for anyone who isn't a billionaire - although I bet the GOP will get there version of health care, social security and medicare passed. No more employer contributions to health insurance but you can choose what to do with your measly tax break. SS. into the stock market - right with your pensions that are already largely there. Medicare - well nothing like having the GOP in charge of your health care.

[dhpgetsit]

10. When things get tough the weak give up.

That is what the corporations are counting on you to do.

[ipaint]

11. Yes, along with the majority settling for less that is exactly what they count on. n/t

[HughMoran]

16. Absolutely

Then we'll whine about why we didn't do more in our time of need.

Same shit, different day - and these cowards wonder why we hate them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. They have the majority... hell they have a HISTORIC SUPERMAJORITY

in the Senate, and a majority of the people behind them.

What gives?

No, there are ways to skin cats, but the voting shtick is not it.

Manufacturing of consent is what this is about... and absolutely authoritarian... what is the other words I am looking for? Oh yes, Fascism, in the classic sense of the word.

[Sebastian Doyle]

13. There is no Democratic party to be active for, if they do not pass (at least) a Public Option

Because these tools (including Obama, if he signs a shit bill) will have proven themselves entirely useless to the American people. I will not bust my ass to get more corporatist fellating tools elected.

[Mira]

14. I sat at a dinner table with very progressive Dems tonight, and told them the same thing.

I will not vote for, or work for Obama's re-election if there is no public option, and the only way I might re-consider that is if the thugs have been investigated and jailed if a trials are coming.

[mmonk]

19. Looks as if we will get neither.

All we got was a pause in the slide.

[Pushed To The Left]

15. With the majorities we have in the Senate and House, there is no excuse for not having a public

option! This is a time for Harry Reid to become "Dirty Harry" and start twisting some arms of those "Democrats" who stand in the way of what our Democratic President and the people want. I'm very disappointed that Obama seems to be backing down.

[laughingliberal]

18. If only...

I live in Nevada so Reid is one of my senators. The other is C-street lover, John Ensign. Here's a copy of my email to Reid today:

I was alarmed to read a report today that suggests you are open to arrangements other than the public option to create competition for the private insurance industry. I am absolutely opposed to any form of health care reform that does not include a public option. I am skeptical that the public option will do enough as it is. Certainly, nothing less will bring premiums and out of pocket costs down. As Howard Dean said recently, the public option is the compromise. I believe this effort is going to become a huge burden on the working class that can ill afford another burden now. A mandate to buy insurance with no option but to give our money to the same profit driven corporations who have orchestrated this health care crisis? It truly will be, as Wendall Potter said, the Health Insurance Industry Protection and Profitability Act of 2009. I ask that you oppose this effort to sell out the workers to this industry that has been destroying us for over 2 decades. I ask that you vote against any bill that reaches the floor without a strong public option. I prefer no change to the debacle for which I see us headed. Thank you for your attention to this.

[kath]

17. "I will fight no more forever."

Copy that, mmonk.


"I've had all I can stands, and I can't stands no more!"

[readmoreoften]

20. Rec'd but don't give up on politics.

Maybe just give up on electoral politics. I did and I'm much happier and I feel like I'm getting things done. We'd need a revolutionary change to back up a progressive in office, even if they won. Might as well cut out the middle man and just be a damn revolutionary. :shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. You adn I have been joined by the Unions

it is building...

But the interests of the corporations seem to dominate.