The 2nd ammendment allows to carry guns on an airplane.

[daedalus_dude]

Like it or not. It is legal. Because no civil rights can be revoked just because it's an airplane.

:crazy: :eyes:


edit for clarity: this is a sarcastic post about the carrying guns at obama speeches argument

[Irreverend IX]

1. Nope, try again. nt

[aikoaiko]

2. :shrug:

:shrug:

[joeybee12]

3. Oh yeah, and crowded rooms were the alcohol is flowing also...

It's about FREEDOM!!!!!!

[slackmaster]

4. No, that is not correct

Aviation is subject to regulation by the federal government under the power granted to it in the Interstate Commerce clause of the Constitution.

If the government says a gun has to be in checked baggage and unloaded, that's the way it is.

K&U for stupidity and flame-bait.

:kick:

[michreject]

5. You can take it on a plane

Put it in a proper case and declare it upon check-in.

[xultar]

6. Apparently your common sense is leaking, check on that and try again.

[MineralMan]

7. No, it doesn't.

In the first place, airlines are tightly regulated, and have many things imposed on them by the government to insure passenger safety.

In the second place, they are privately owned entities, which can ban anything on their property they damn well please.

The Second Amendment (not ammendment) does not apply to private property.

Thanks for playing, though.

Don Pardo, tell our OP about his parting gift!

[Xithras]

8. Your second point (privately owned) is the more important point here.

I can found an airline that requires passengers to fly naked if I want. Boarding is not permitted unless you strip to your birthday suit.

As private entities, airlines can set any rules for passengers that they want. If they don't want guns onboard, they don't have to allow them on board.

That said, there is a bit of fuzziness over the applicability of anti-gun rules to public AIRPORTS in states where open carry and concealed carry are permitted. While it's probable that anyone carrying a firearm into a TSA secured airport would be arrested, it's probable that any conviction would be struck down if that person wasn't actually travelling. Many people have pointed out that federal authority may not apply if the action is legal locally and the person isn't engaging in activities that would trigger federal powers.

So yes, standing on the outside of the airport fence, with a loaded rifle, under the end of the runway, in New Hampshire, may actually be legal. Hope you can find a good attorney willing to fight your case to the Supremes to prove it though.

[MineralMan]

10. Yes, the private ownership is the primary reason, for sure.

By the same token, many airports are also privately owned, or quasi-privately. I suspect that even city or other local authority-owned airports could make an excellent case for banning firearms on airport property. They've managed to ban them on other government-owned property. Futher, space inside the airport is leased by private corporations, so there's room for banning firearms on privately-leased property, just as you might in your store in a shopping center, if you wished.

I had my brother drive me to the LAX airport in California on a recent trip there. He holds a CCW in CA, and pretty much carries all the time. LAX frequently stops and searches cars on the road approaching the ticketing and check-in area at LAX. There's a sign that states that all vehicles are subject to search. I reminded him of that, and he left his handgun at home. I didn't want to have to walk from the checkpoint to the terminal while he explained his pistol, frankly, and told him so.

It's all sorta complicated, but like insisting on the right of way in a busy crosswalk, it's usually inconvenient and often dangerous to ignore rules regarding firearms possession in public places.

[Statistical]

9. Fail. Airplanes are private property.

You have no right (and never had) to carry firearm onto someone elses property.
Just like you have a right to free speech but you don't have a right to use a bull horn in my living room without my permission.

Strawmen are simply logical fail.

[MineralMan]

11. Your sarcasm failed miserably. Perhaps you should

wait until you know more about DU before attempting such. You did a very poor job of it.

You see, lots of people say the exact same thing, in all seriousness. Satire needs to be far enough over the top to be obvious, or you need to use the :sarcasm: smiley or something.

Fail on all counts, there.

[kevinbgoode]

12. My FREEDOM is being violated

because I'm not allowed to carry heat-seeking missiles on my car to clear the damned highway.