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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:09 PM
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Vermont Says Man Must Give Up Pet Moose / Protesters go to bat for 'Pete the moose' - with pics

David Lawrence talks to Pete the moose in Irasburg, Vt., Thursday, July 30, 2009. Pete was raised by 73-year-old Lawrence, who nursed the then-newborn moose back to health after Pete had been injured by dogs.
(AP Photo/Toby Talbot)


David Lawrence rubs the head of Pete the moose in Irasburg, Vt., Thursday, July 30, 2009. Pete was raised by 73-year-old Lawrence, who nursed the then-newborn moose back to health after Pete had been injured by dogs.
(AP Photo/Toby Talbot)


Vermont Says Man Must Give Up Pet Moose
Albany Man Trying To Save Moose's Life

Posted: 10:43 am EDT July 31, 2009Updated: 1:54 pm EDT July 31, 2009

IRASBURG, Vt. -- A Vermont man rescued a baby moose from dogs that had chewed up his hips, but it doesn't look like David Lawrence can protect the moose from state wildlife officials who say the now-grown bull must be killed.

Every day Lawrence makes the trip from Albany, Vt., to an Irasburg farm to visit Pete, a male moose whose affection he earned by nursing the bull back to health with a daily supply of food, reported WPTZ-TV in Plattsburgh, N.Y.

"He expects me to come through the gate every day. This area has become his home because he knows I'm going to come see him," Lawrence said.

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The Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department takes issue with Pete living on the farm, along with the other wild animals that are fenced in the farm.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/20236771/detail.html



Protesters go to bat for 'Pete the moose'


By Thatcher Moats Times Argus Staff - Published: July 31, 2009

WATERBURY Waving signs and shouting slogans, about 20 protestors gathered in Waterbury on Thursday evening to show their support for Pete the Moose, an animal many people believe is under threat from the state Department of Fish and Wildlife.

"These guys can't speak for themselves, so we need to speak for them," said Donna Underwood-Owens, a 64-year-old Essex resident.

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Fish and Wildlife is negotiating with Nelson about what steps to take to rid the property of the native animals, and Nelson said that Fish and Wildlife Commissioner Wayne Laroche told him his department would kill the animals, including Pete, in the coming weeks.

Wildlife officials worry that the imported elk might spread diseases, particularly chronic wasting disease, to Vermont's native deer and moose population, and having the native animals living there is against state regulations.


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http://www.timesargus.com/article/20090731/NEWS02/90731...







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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:17 PM
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1. The government is going to kill the moose? Very nice.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:20 PM
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4. Sarah Palin may get her first contract post-governorship
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:19 PM
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2. Put a saddle on him and ride him - FWD won't know the difference
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:39 PM
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14. LOL! n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:19 PM
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3. Wldlife services should allow the animals to live as long as they don't have
the diseases they are suspected of carrying. If they have the disease, they either need to be treated or put down, but to just put them down because they might have the disease feared is inhumane.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:16 PM
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12. I don't believe there is a test for wasting disease
other than examining brain tissue for lesions and evidence of prions. (Researchers are working on diagnostic tests for prion disease in human (Creutzfeld-Jacob / mad cow) but I don't think they're there yet.)

But I don't see how killing Pete will make a difference. Wasting disease has been spreading outward from Wisconsin since it started. It will reach Vermont sooner or later, whether or not they kill Pete.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:24 PM
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5. Grrr. Doug Nelson is a fucking pig, And yeah, I know him.
The wild animals he keeps on his farm are there for canned hunting. No, the state sure as shit shouldn't kill Pete, but I wish they'd shut down Doug's canned hunting enterprise.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:36 PM
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8. do people protest his canned hunting preserve
because to me that is a bigger issue than even poor Pete.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:21 PM
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10. not so much. This is the Kingdom. As odd a place as you're likely to find
There are certainly a lot of people who don't think much of it, but who's gonna protest a rural farm/canned hunting preserve in the middle of nowhere? Lots of letters to the local papers though.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:28 PM
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6. Save Pete the moose!
What the hell is wrong with these people at the Fish and Wildlife Dept.?
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 01:35 PM
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7. Did anyone read the article, the area is a hunting preserve
"Pete lives on property owned by Doug Nelson, where native white-tailed deer and moose live among imported elk on Nelson's elk farm and hunting preserve in Irasburg.

Fish and Wildlife is negotiating with Nelson about what steps to take to rid the property of the native animals, and Nelson said that Fish and Wildlife Commissioner Wayne Laroche told him his department would kill the animals, including Pete, in the coming weeks."


So Pete may have been bred for shooting anyways?

I don't get it. Why do they allow the hunting preserve and why aren't people protesting that? Perhaps they do but the article doesn't mention it.


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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 03:01 PM
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9. What do they mean 'imported'? He was found in Vermont and raised in Vermont!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:16 PM
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11. The elk are imported.
And they might carry chronic wasting disease which might be spread to native deer and moose populations. Ergo, they need to kill a native moose with no sign of chronic wasting disease. :crazy:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:30 PM
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13. Yassir, that there is an un-authorized moose...
...sorry buddy, you saved him, you raised him, now we gotta kill him. It's just the way things work.

:wtf:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 05:44 PM
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15. Who's in charge of Fish and Wildlife? Boris and Natasha?
Sending good thoughts for Pete and David.
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