Why can't you be thin like Mika?

[CTyankee]

Today on MJ Mika was flogging the story about how much money obese people cost our health system in this country. Not once, but twice in the hour or so that I had the show on (while multi tasking). TWICE, she held up the USA Today headline and started ranting. Of course, she is just really "concerned" about the children (the children!).

She also threw in a nice snide report about a new Fox show about large people dating called "More to Love." She could barely conceal her snarl and disgust.

This seems odd to me. She's right there with lots of red states politics, but she sure as hell won't endear herself with overweight red state RWingers...

[Buzz Clik]

1. The word is "shallow", and I don't want to be like her.

[hlthe2b]

6. I always sense her father's discomfort when he appears

on the show with her. I think he is privately ashamed and embarrassed by her. She sold out journalistically, intellectually, and ethically--and she is becoming increasingly shallow. Rather unsavory combination.

[DeepBlueC]

8. It's Joe

I believe he thinks she debases herself by being patronized by the likes of him.

[annabanana]

2. No where in this discussion (on any channel) will the question

come up of how our food supply chain figures in. I think everyone is overdosing on corn and it's derivatives.

[wizstars]

13. Carbonated (high-sucrose) drinks!

and preservatives


INDICT THE BUSH/CHENEY GANG!!!

[SoCalDem]

16. You noticed that too?

The FDA needs to PROHIBIT the use of HFCS (they could do it for a 5 year trial period) in ALL foods.

I bet they would see a marked difference in obesity & diabetes II.


And I'll get attacked royally, but snack foods should be EXPENSIVE. They USED to be "extras". "treats"..not everyday food items.

Our own kids never had a single bottle of soda pop until they were in school. We NEVER bought cookies or cakes.

Potato chips were for picnics or for rare occasions when we had a sandwich-lunch.

If schools refuse to re-install drinking fountains, their vending machines should be for water only..and at a reduced price. and no candy/snack machines.

The emptiness in American lives will not be 'solved" by having a snack/drink machine or drive-thru every 50 feet.

[CrispyQ]

21. I don't have kids, but when I saw the movie "Super Size Me"

the school cafeteria looked more like a mall food court than the school cafeteria from my youth. We had home cooked meals. We got cheese pizza on Friday. That was as junk food as we got.

In that segment, they showed one school that went back to more wholesome food in their cafeteria & the teachers reported better attention & sharpness in the students. Imagine that. Give them whole food instead of junk & they will perform better. :eyes:

Our food system has been perverted for profit. The 'for profit' mentality is destroying everything fine on this planet.

[Jennicut]

25. Yup...cheese pizza was only on Fridays and there was no fast food...this was the 80's and 90's.

I graduated high school in 1994 and its only gone downhill since then.
As a diabetic I often read labels and its all high fructose corn syrup...its in everything from wheat bread to granola bars to cereal. Nothing is all that healthy anymore. I think I need to start making my own food from scratch or go to a health food store.

[patrice]

27. That's the way my siblings and I were raised. And NO comic books!

Mom was convinced that they made your brain lazy.

[SoCalDem]

28. I loved comic books, but I read them when it was raining outside

if it was not raining, I was outside playing hopscotch, jacks , jumprope,climbing trees, exploring, or riding bikes..

We had one radio..no tv..one partyline phone, and kids did not call each other (except for homework emergencies)

Our snacks during the day were supplied by the trees we climbed:) (mangos, oranges, avocados, ginneps) and there were always papayas & bananas for the grabbing.

[CrispyQ]

18. Rent the movie "King Corn" if you can.

My local Blockbuster has it. It's a fascinating look into corn & our diet.

http://www.kingcorn.net/

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/kingcorn/

Netflix description: In Aaron Woolf's thought-provoking documentary, friends Ian Cheney and Curt Ellis move back to America's Corn Belt to plant an acre of the nation's most-grown and most-subsidized grain and follow their crop into the U.S. food supply. What they learn about genetically modified seeds, powerful herbicides and the realities of modern farming calls into question government subsidies, the fast-food lifestyle and the quality of what we eat.

Highly recommended! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[babylonsister]

3. So did she enthusiastically promote the public option or is she just

railing against fat people?

I have it on, but only listen for intelligent people. She's not one of them.

[CTyankee]

4. I think she is disgusted by fat people.

She didn't like the idea of a TV show featuring fat people dating. That seemed to really make her want to hurl.

I think she is squarely targetting fat people for their own obesity related illnesses. The look of loathing on her face as she spoke was telling...

[patrice]

11. People often seriously resent others for not reinforcing the sacrifices that they have made.

It's like saying to someone "All that you gave up, everything that you suffered, your lifetime of each satisfaction that you denied yourself was for naught, because I didn't do any of that and SEE how HAPPY I am."

[Bitter_Clinger]

22. She Would Hate Me, Then.

I have absolutely no discipline in my eating habits. Drink sodas like I am dying of thirst. Scarf down Snickers and M&Ms like I am starving to death. Fry almost everything I eat. Yet my cholesterol, blood sugar levels and blood pressure are in the low norms or even low. If I eat healthy my weight immediately starts to plunge.

I do exercise though. I fence (a passion I picked up in college), and do hundreds of push-ups several times a week and augment it with jumping rope.

[ejpoeta]

5. they were talking about that on the today show too. it's all over

because as we all know, fat people are fat because they are lazy and just sit around and eat all day. that must be why I am fat. Nevermind that I suffer from depression and can't afford to go to my counselor because it would cost me $50 a pop, unless they are kind enough to rethink that after I sent them my pay stubs .... AGAIN. it's very disheartening because it's not like I haven't tried. At least I got some assistance with a Y membership, which I can't really use right now because I am 7 and a half months pregnant, but it's frustrating because most of my weight gain has had to do with pregnancies and an inability to get rid of it afterward. I'll admit I haven't been very active, but I do try.

I think part of the problem is all this low fat fat free screwed with food that we have. I personally think our bodies have a harder time with it. Maybe I am wrong, but it would make sense. It seems the more we gerrymander with everything the worse it gets.

[LaurenG]

7. So very typical of people without compassion or understanding

I've seen this play out enough times in my life and hopefully it will play out in hers. Many times a person who hates something turns into what they hate. Perhaps Mika will get to experience some of what she hates personally.

[Orsino]

9. The Right wants us at each other's throats...

...so we don't notice our chains.

[Deja Q]

20. Oh, there are right-wingers who claim they see through it just like some on the left do.

Right-wing, left-wing, in the end it's all about chickens.

[patrice]

10. I'm confused, isn't obesity an effect of "Free Market" Capitalism at work? nt

[Lex]

15. I tried to count how many fatty, carby foods were advertised/glamorized on tv in 1 hour

of prime time, but I can't recall the number I came up with. It was astonishing, though.

One wonders the effect of that over time.

[Walk away]

12. What about the high cost of having Mika's lips removed....

...from Joe Scarborough's ass? Shouldn't that be considered a pre-existing condition?

[CTyankee]

14. Why yes, I believe it is...nt

[UTUSN]

17. Seems like there was EXTENDED bumper music and very little yakking this A.M.

Granted, I was dozing...

[Deja Q]

19. The more they cherrypick their topics, the more I will cherrypick mine...

Unfortunately, they pick on symptoms and I pick on possible causes OF the symptoms.

:shrug:

[Hepburn]

23. I have a friend who is very, very heavy....

...yes, he is tall, but he weighs over 400 pounds.

Why?

Because he was a Canadian thalidomide baby. His birth defects consist of being blind in one eye and having an intestine that does not function properly ~~ he eats moderately especially for a 40 year old active man who is nearly 6'3" tall, but the weight just piles on. Except for him, his entire family is on the thin side. Now his knees and other joints are beginning to pay the price of his weight and his blood pressure is starting to climb.

Luckily he has a MD who studied and studied and found the actual cause of my friend's problem ~~ the thalidomide his mother took while pregnant with him. Now enter the fucking insurance company ~~ the gastric bi-pass to them is cosmetic and elective. Fortunately, there is enough money available for him to have the procedure despite lack of insurance coverage.

And the insurance companies want to bitch about overweight people and yet consider my friend's gastric bi-pass as elective surgery??? Unbelievable...

[Scout]

24. because i don't want to throw up after eating n/t

[Peacetrain]

26. I work with low income families.. and guess what .. high carb foods

are cheaper to get than fresh veggies etc. High carb, low nutrient foods, cause a rebound effect in your glucose levels that lead you to eat more of the high carb low nutrient foods. Exercise is a component, of course. But there is a much larger issue to this. Affordability of good healthy food.

Do corn syrups etc play a part of this. Yes they do. We have only been using corn syrups since the 70's and it is in everything.

We feed our animals growth hormones to get them to market earlier. Those cheap hamburgers at Mickey D's, ... we consume said same growth hormones. It does not take a genius to follow the next logical conclusion and how it effects the average person.

Last point. We have changed what we identify as comfort food. During WW2 when they asked soldiers what was the first thing they were going to eat when they got home.. It was apple pie. That is where that saying came from.. Mom and apple pie.

During Vietnam, they asked the same question. The first thing the returning vets wantned. Mickey D's.

And it has gone downhill since.

Look at your grocery store. 80% of it is pre-prepped, with added fats and salts.

Mika is clueless.

[a la izquierda]

29. I'm probably thinner than her...

but I'm not a self-serving, sanctimonious bitch. I don't begrudge anyone for their weight. My sisters are bigger than I am, and they're gorgeous as all get out. I'm thin because it's the way genetics made me and I'm a cyclist.
I was a smoker for a while, and heard the same shpeal about how much smokers cost the healthcare system. It's just another way to put people in boxes.