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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:52 PM
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Media Matters: What would Pat Buchanan have to say to get himself fired from MSNBC?
This article is more than a month old - but in light of Mr. Buchanan's latest bigoted rant on the Rachel Maddows Show it is still quite timely.



What would Pat Buchanan have to say to get himself fired from MSNBC?

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200906080008
by Jamison Foser of Media Matters

June 08, 2009 11:31 am ET

"In the weeks since President Obama nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, one question has consumed the news media, particularly conservatives in the media: Imagine what would happen if a white man had said the reverse of Sotomayor's famous (and famously distorted) "wise Latina" comment. Media commentators have insisted that such a white man would be denounced as a racist and run out of town on a rail.

That's nonsense. First of all, Sotomayor's actual comments were far more innocuous than the media's portrayal of them would suggest; she was merely noting the importance of judicial diversity in cases involving discrimination, a sentiment that is consistent with statements by numerous prominent conservatives. Second, as Reason magazine's Julian Sanchez has noted, "t would be weird for a white man to say it because it's probably not true that the experience of growing up as a white male in the United States specifically enhances one's understanding of what it means to be a disfavored minority."

Finally, the media debate over Sotomayor has provided a depressing reminder of what does happen to prominent white men who make racist, sexist, and homophobic comments: MSNBC, among others, puts them on payroll and trots them out to opine on matters of race and gender.

MSNBC's history in this regard is well-known. The cable channel gave Michael Savage his own television show, and then had to fire him when he told a caller to "get AIDS and die." It gave Don Imus a television show, and then had to fire him when he called members of the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos." It gave Chris Matthews a television show on which he had to issue a bizarre apology after making one sexist comment too many. (No such apology has been forthcoming for his habit of suggesting minorities are not "regular" people.)

But through it all, MSNBC has continued to employ Pat Buchanan, despite a long record -- which he builds on frequently -- of bigoted speech. Throughout his time in public life, Buchanan has engaged in speech characteristic of an era in which open prejudice was the norm. And yet no one in the mainstream media bats an eye over the fact that he continues to enjoy a position of influence and prestige on what is increasingly -- though not convincingly -- described as a "liberal" cable channel.

Buchanan has used his position at MSNBC to lead the charge against Sotomayor with dishonest and often unhinged diatribes against the nominee. He even offered an ugly and misleading attack on her for doing exactly what he has always claimed to want non-native English speakers in America to do: practice their English language skills.

That MSNBC grants Buchanan such a platform is remarkable in light of the long history of bipartisan denunciation of him. In 1991, conservative icon William F. Buckley wrote in National Review that it was "impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination, the military build-up for the Gulf War, amounted to anti-Semitism." During Buchanan's 1996 presidential campaign, he faced considerable media scrutiny of his views and statements, including an extremely contentious appearance on ABC that featured a grilling by conservative George Will and fellow Beltway insider Cokie Roberts. That same year, then-RNC chairman Rich Bond said Buchanan was "heading toward a low-road message of anger, hate and race-baiting." During Buchanan's 1999-2000 presidential campaign, conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said, "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice."

Neither RNC chairs nor conservative columnists are known for their tendency to denounce their own in such strong terms. But Buchanan makes such assessments difficult to avoid. He has compiled a 40-year record of blatantly -- and, at times, seemingly gleefully -- bigoted statements.

Oddly, the more time goes by, and the further removed America is from the time when sentiments like those regularly expressed by Buchanan were widely accepted, the media increasingly give him a pass. During Buchanan's 2000 campaign, Jake Tapper examined the media's bizarre unwillingness to address Buchanan's history of racism and anti-Semitism. Tapper quoted journalists Michael Kinsley and Howard Kurtz suggesting that the media give Buchanan a pass because he is a "pal" and a "member of the fraternity."

That is certainly plausible -- and consistent with the kid-glove treatment Don Imus long enjoyed. But Buchanan was a member of the fraternity in 1996, too, when fellow fraternity members Cokie Roberts, George Will, and Sam Donaldson grilled him, and when the media as a whole took a close look at his track record. Buchanan's standing in The Village cannot, by itself, explain the media's current indifference to his rhetorical excesses. MSNBC's decade-long hospitality to prejudice and slur, combined with its growing influence over the chattering class, likely plays a role as well.

So, too, does the fact that many of Buchanan's most shocking statements seem to have disappeared down the memory hole. That, at least, is easy enough to fix.

In Nixonland, his definitive account of the era, historian Rick Perlstein notes that as an editorial writer for the far-right St. Louis Globe-Democrat in the 1960s, Buchanan specialized in "disseminating smears about civil rights leaders passed on by J. Edgar Hoover."

Buchanan then became a close aide to Richard Nixon, where, according to Tapper, he was a zealous advocate for segregation:

Even Richard Nixon found the views of his former speech writer, Buchanan, too extreme on the segregation issue. According to a John Ehrlichman memo referenced in Nicholas Lemann's "The Promised Land," Nixon characterized Buchanan's views as "segregation forever."
After Nixon was reelected, Buchanan warned his boss not to "fritter away his present high support in the nation for an ill-advised governmental effort to forcibly integrate races."

In a memo Buchanan wrote while working in the Nixon White House, he dismissed a massacre in which 67 blacks were shot to death by South African police as nothing more than "a few South African whites mistreating a couple of blacks." Concern over the shooting, Buchanan wrote, was "racist and ideological." That's right: Buchanan denounced concern over white South African police officers massacring 67 blacks, rather than the shootings themselves, as "racist." He peppered memos with the most offensive of slurs: Soviet poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko was "the house nigger of the Politburo" in Buchanan's memos, and according to Perlstein, Buchanan complained in a memo to the president that conservatives were the "niggers of the Nixon administration."

Buchanan urged Nixon not to visit Rev. Martin Luther King's widow, warning that such a visit would "outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse. ... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history."

Of course, there were a lot of similarly minded people in Nixon-era America, many of whom have seen the error of their ways. Buchanan is virtually unique among public proponents of segregation and purveyors of bigoted speech in that he alone has maintained a position of prominence in national politics while adding to, rather than repudiating, his record of bigoted rhetoric.

In 1983, Buchanan wrote that "homosexuals ... have declared war on nature, and now nature is exacting an awful retribution." (During his 1992 presidential campaign, he stood by that view, insisting "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating the laws of nature.") In his 1990 book, Right From the Beginning, Buchanan reminisced fondly about his childhood in segregated Washington, D.C.: "In the late 1940's and 1950's ... race was never a preoccupation with us, we rarely thought about it. ... There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'Negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours." That same year, he complained that the poor "Euro-Americans" just couldn't catch a break:

The Negroes of the '50s became the blacks of the '60's; now, the "African-Americans" of the 90's demand racial quotas and set-asides, as the Democrats eagerly assent and a pandering GOP prepares to go along.

Who speaks for the Euro-Americans, who founded the U.S.A.? ... Is it not time to take America back?

In a 1989 column, Buchanan argued in defense of men-only golf courses: "Who was injured, whose rights violated, because, for 67 years, men could take an afternoon off at Burning Tree to hit a golf ball around 18 holes and down a few martinis? What self-respecting woman would want to invade this men's club, when it was evident the men did not want her there?"

In the very next paragraph, Buchanan fondly remembered traipsing around an all-male golf course with the likes of Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower, oblivious to the fact that in hinting at the (men-only) networking that took place on such courses, he was answering his own question about why women would want to be there, and how they were injured by being kept out.

And in classic Buchanan style, those who wanted to end discrimination were portrayed as the real bigots: "here is something truly mean-spirited in this relentless pursuit of Burning Tree by feminist ideologues. And it has a name: bigotry. Not the innocuous male chauvinism of the Burning Tree members, but the anti-white-male malevolence of their pursuers."

In that same 1989 column, Buchanan went on to defend Bob Jones University's ban on interracial dating.

In 1990, Buchanan managed to find a way to feel gloomy about the release of Nelson Mandela and the prospect of majority rule in South Africa:

t is difficult to share the wild enthusiasm about the news that Nelson Mandela will be released, that South Africa, too, may soon enjoy the blessings of "majority rule."

<...>

Exactly, why are we celebrating the unbanning of an African National Congress whose leaders are addicted to the very Marxist ideas that ruined every African country where they have been tried?
Comes the answer: Because we stand for democracy! Because white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong!

But, where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this. They did not give the Indians, who were still living a tribal existence, the right to vote us out of North America. When they created the Republic, they restricted the franchise to property-owning males, believing that not every man was qualified to rule, nor every people prepared for self-government. If the past 30 years taught us nothing else, it has surely taught us that.

In 1991, Buchanan had an astonishing complaint about a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan: "David Duke is busy stealing from me. I have a mind to go down there and sue that dude for intellectual property theft." Perhaps Duke was merely returning the favor; in 1989, Buchanan had urged the Republican Party to "ake a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, reverse discrimination against white folks."

At the Republican National Convention in 1992, he denounced "the amoral idea that gay and lesbian couples should have the same standing in law as married men and women." In that infamous speech, Buchanan also declared a "religious war ... a cultural war ... for the soul of America." It's a war Buchanan has been losing for decades, but one he shows no signs of abandoning.

During his 1996 presidential campaign, Buchanan chose as campaign co-chair a certain Larry Pratt, who the Southern Poverty Law Center says, "may well be the person who brought the concept of citizen militias to the radical right." When Pratt's associations with white supremacists surfaced, Buchanan defended him, though Pratt eventually had to step down.

Last year, Buchanan suggested that slavery worked out pretty well for "black folks":

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Again, that was just last year. And Buchanan went on to argue that "no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans," an assertion he supported with a laundry list of government programs that, though he didn't mention this part, he spent his career opposing. Nor did he mention the inconvenient fact of his opposition to integration.

Instead, the man who once wrote in a memo to Richard Nixon that "integration of blacks and whites ... is less likely to result in accommodation than it is in perpetual friction, as the incapable are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable," now argues that African-Americans are insufficiently grateful for the gifts white America has given them, starting with slavery.

Buchanan has called Adolf Hitler an "individual of great courage." He also questioned whether World War II was "worth it" and wondered, "hy destroy Hitler?" That wasn't 40 years ago; that was just four years ago. Just last year, he wrote that the Holocaust happened not because of Hitler, but because of Churchill.

That actually may demonstrate a hint of progress for Buchanan: At least he acknowledged the Holocaust did happen. In the past, he has peddled bizarre Holocaust denial claims, and as recently as two months ago, compared suspected Nazi war criminal John Demjanjuk to Jesus Christ.

Defending an accused Nazi war criminal is one thing. Relying on the discredited arguments of Holocaust deniers in order to do so is quite another. And that's exactly what Buchanan has done.

In a 1990 column defending Demjanjuk, Buchanan wrote: "Reportedly, half of the 20,000 survivor testimonies in Yad Vashem memorial in Jerusalem are considered 'unreliable' " because of "Holocaust Survivor Syndrome," which involves "group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics." Buchanan didn't say who "reported" this claim, which would fit in nicely in the most extreme Holocaust denial literature. Nor did he identify a source for his claim that Jews could not have been killed at Treblinka because "iesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody," a claim he purported to prove by noting that, in 1988, "97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, DC tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes." Buchanan later refused to tell journalist Jacob Weisberg where he got that anecdote, saying only, "Somebody sent it to me." Evidence strongly suggests the claim came from a Holocaust denial newsletter. Regardless of where Buchanan got his theories about diesel engines, the mass graves at Treblinka are rather more persuasive.

Buchanan's bizarre comments about Nazis and the Holocaust kicked into high gear during his time as a columnist, but his questionable approach to the subject began earlier. As an aide to President Reagan, Buchanan successfully urged his boss to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi troops are buried. Buchanan was reportedly responsible for Reagan's statement that the SS troops buried there were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

Buchanan's ability to identify real victims certainly hasn't improved. In 2007, after Don Imus was fired for his "nappy-headed hos" comment, Buchanan defended him as "more a victim of hatred than a perpetrator of hatred."

As a Nixon aide, Buchanan supported the nomination of Harrold Carswell to the Supreme Court. Four years ago, he complained that Carswell's nomination failed because the nominee was "smeared" as a racist. Smeared? Really? Carswell gave a speech in which he boasted, "I believe that segregation of the races is proper ... and the only practical and correct way of life in our states. I yield to no man in the firm, vigorous belief in the principles of white supremacy and I shall always be so governed."

That's who Pat Buchanan defends: suspected Nazi war criminals and self-proclaimed white supremacists.

No wonder he's such a popular guest on "pro-White" radio shows that are streamed live on "White Nationalist" websites. And again: That's not something he did 30 years ago. That's something he did last year.

And whom does he attack? Immigrants. Gays (whom Buchanan compares to alcoholics). Women (whose ability to speak he compares with the ability of dogs to walk upright on their hind legs -- both tasks, according to Buchanan, are surprising but performed with limited success).

Incredibly, MSNBC trots him out to discuss race and gender issues, as though the views he represents are needed for "balance." And so MSNBC viewers are treated to the bizarre spectacle of Pat Buchanan loudly insisting that everyone else is a racist. Sonia Sotomayor? Racist. Harry Reid? Racist. Eric Holder? Displays "almost paralyzing stupidity" in talking about race.

If there is a consistent theme to Buchanan's rhetoric over the past four decades, it is that the real bigotry is displayed by women and minorities, and bigotry's real victims are white males. At this point, it would be surprising if he didn't call Sonia Sotomayor a racist.

But the most extraordinary thing about MSNBC's continued employment of Pat Buchanan is that all of this barely scratches the surface. Anyone willing to devote a few minutes can easily find dozens, if not hundreds, more examples of flagrantly over-the-top rhetoric targeting racial and ethnic minorities, women, gays, and immigrants, among others -- from the '60s through the present day.

Pat Buchanan's bigoted comments are not merely an aspect of his public persona; if they are not what he is best known for, they should be. MSNBC needs to explain why they are not disqualifying.

Jamison Foser is a Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog and research and information center based in Washington, D.C. Foser also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email."

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200906080008



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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:54 PM
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1. When people stop tuning in to see what crazy shit he says next
Thats the whole reason he has a job. They pay him to say whatever crazy shit he can come up with cause they know people will tune in and get all mad and then watch some commercials.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:21 AM
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2. Pat Buchanan is doing his job.
He has a history of being a conservative Republican in the highest echelons of government/conservative Reform Party member and presidential candidate/conservative white guy with all of the racist baggage that guys of his age often cart around. That's why he's QUALIFIED to do the job he does.

And what is that job?

    His job is to piss off the target audience at MSNBC so they write multi-paragraph diatribes about what a total asshole he is.

    His job, also, is to be the guy the NBC "suits" point at when the conservatives complain that they have no voice on MSNBC.

    His job is to make your BLOOD boil, so you'll tune in and shake your fist at him and call him all sorts of names.


He's doing his job--he's the white guy in the black hat, to use an analogy from the Old West. If they paid him enough to suddenly have a Come To Jesus Moment and decide to become a liberal, he'd be the best goddamned liberal you ever saw. He'd be sincere, too, make no mistake. About as sincere as he is now.

It's "commentary." It's "theater." He's an opinion-spinner, babbling on with a bunch of other "opinion-spinners." Because, see, opinions are easy.

Fact gathering, why, that's hard work! Wish they'd do a bit more of that....
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:24 AM
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5. I think you have some good points there.
A friend of mine asked me awhile ago if I enjoy reading articles that really upset me, and I had to concede that on a certain level I probably do.

After all if one even looks at this forum, the post that get the most attention are either articles that upset people or cause a flame war or "ideally", both.

What I see as really strange in the mainstream American media is that on the right-wing they can pretty much go as far to the lunatic right as one can imagine. While the limits of how far one can go to the left in the mainstream media is heavily restricted.

What would be the balance for someone like Glen Beck, Pat Buchanan, Bill O'Reilly or Sein Hannity with Ann Coulter as a regular contributor? This would be like having Ward Churchill as a regular commentator with Noam Chomsky as a regular contributor to present the moderate narative.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:47 AM
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7. I don't think the amount of distance on the left is restricted--I just think there's not as much
appetite for it. I don't think it polls well with audiences. People don't want to listen to "self improvement" scolds, and unfortunately, there's a lot of that on the left (don't smoke, don't drink, don't eat that meat, don't use that gun, no hunting, no fishing, it has a face you can't eat it, you're BAD!!! Diet soda! Aspertame! Plastic bottles, how COULD you? You wear leather!! Aggh!)....the perception is that there's a lot of no-no-no-no on the left side of the left. People wanna get yelled at? They can get that at home for free!

Another aspect is that people don't like their sins challenged, and I just don't think people find it terribly interesting to be finger wagged. They'll click the channel and go to a good FIGHT instead!

Plus--Ward Churchill? He turned out to be a total fake. The guy was living the big lie about his heritage, his military career, his academic credentials... and he was even ripping off the art of others and repurposing it as his own. That's just....ewwwwww. That said, he's obstreperous, full of shit, and a real blowhard....so yeah, you're right...he is, I guess, a lot like his opposite numbers on the right, after all. What the hell--it might work, if they wanted to go that way! He'd give 'em a show, at least.

He might generate a fight or two--that IS what "they" want, at the end of the day. I suppose it's better than being put to sleep with an "eat your vegetables" lecture....of course, most people wouldn't stay for that--they'd vote with their remotes--and head for any station with either laughs or a huge fight.

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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:01 AM
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11. I would have to agree that the ideological left is full of a lot of tisk, tisk, tisk
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 04:16 AM by Douglas Carpenter
which tends to get on peoples nerves. A libertine left is just not a major part of American political culture as one might find in Europe.

Ward Churchill, by the way devoted a whole sub-chapter of his book, "On the Justice of Roosting Chickens" to denouncing the "anti-smoking fad" that has consumed America and represented one more assault by the ruling classes on the pleasures of working class people. That should be crazy enough for cable news. Being completely discredited and and utterly hypocritical should more than qualify him for a program of his own. He says more than enough things that people of the left would agree with when they are drunk and would enrage most anyone else whether drunk or sober.

What concerns me with the fans of the likes of Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly or Buchanan is that they literally agree with them even when cold sober. I can read Ward Churhill and agree with some of his outrages in a hyperbolic sense. That is, I don't literally agree with him when of sober mind, but I see his point while recognizing that he is driving the point to a bizarre extreme. The fans of the right-wing nut brigade that dominate cable news literally agree with them and don't even recognize the hyperbolic nature of their crazed rantings.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:48 AM
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34. The sad thing about the folks who agree with the Hannitys of this world is that they're incredibly
stupid, most of them. They often appear, on the surface, to be smarter than they actually are, but when you desconstruct their knowlege level, you often find "dumb and afraid" behind that self-assured, blowhard-ish facade.

Notwithstanding, there's something to be said for a fine donnybrook on the tee vee. I'm one of those sorts who leans left on many issues, but I don't like that nannyish scolding, either! If I have to watch "Dumb Tee Vee" though, I can't stomach the wingnut stuff--I'd rather see Judge Judy ripping some little liar a new one!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:09 AM
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12. dupe
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 04:14 AM by Douglas Carpenter


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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:30 AM
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17. Astute analysis. And spot-on. n/t.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:21 AM
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15. True. Think Pro Wrestling folks.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:05 PM
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22. I guess that's why he was so popular in Palm Beach County nine years ago.
:sarcasm:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:50 AM
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35. Even he derided that result as absolute horseshit. He was pretty upfront about it, too. NT
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:18 AM
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30. See Post #2 by MADem - that says it all. - nt
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:43 AM
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3. He would have to use the n-word to refer to Obama while on air
I don't think anything less would get him fired from MSNBC.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:36 AM
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4. Three words...
...Fuck Jack Welch!

That would do it.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:35 AM
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6. Give your support to the excellent Media Matters!
They certainly deserve it.

mediamatters.org/
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:50 AM
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8. Easy. Talk like an unapologetic progressive
Ask Phil Donahue.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:17 AM
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29. Winner, winner, chicken dinner**nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:33 AM
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9. MSNBC loves its daytime bigots. It's unwatchable.
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 03:34 AM by EFerrari
I stopped writing to them and stopped watching.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:41 AM
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10. On the air: He would have to use the "N" word at least 10 times; call ...
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 03:43 AM by Hepburn
Rachel Maddow and other gays derrogatory terms used for those who are gay; use the each forbidden term for persons of Jewish, Hispanic and Asian American origin at least 4 times for each ethnic group; threaten to kill Obama; and admit to molesting children and selling the tapes of the molests.

Hey, he is a white Republican male...it does take a bit for the powers that be at the MSM to be put in a position where they HAVE to rid the air waves of him. After all, he and his ilk were responsible for the founding of this nation, the win at Gettysberg and for all good things that have come to this nation.

:sarcasm:

Edit for spelling
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:12 AM
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13. Good fucking question.
Seems like his Aryan Nazi unconcscious hatred at that black man is president is leaking out his ears.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:47 AM
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14. Question of the damned 21st century
I found this part of the story fascinating.

"He peppered memos with the most offensive of slurs: Soviet poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko was "the house nigger of the Politburo" in Buchanan's memos, and according to Perlstein, Buchanan complained in a memo to the president that conservatives were the "niggers of the Nixon administration."
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:26 AM
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16. If you think this is bad, read this,
especially the part about how Blacks owe Whites gratitude for bringing them to America in slave ships and introducing them to Christianity. Molly Ivans was right, Pat sounds better in the originial German.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan/a-brief-for-whitey.html
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:38 AM
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18. Years ago, Pat Buchanan, George F. Will, and Gore Vidal were co-commentators
on one of the Sunday morning news shows. However, as Gore Vidal tells it, they fired him after a while because, they said, he was "too outrageous."

Vidal's comment was, "They kept Pat Buchanan, but I was too outrageous?"
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:57 AM
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19. Blow job, that seems to be the one expression that has the media...
tripping all over itself in horror.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:41 PM
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20. one kick for the next shift
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:53 PM
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21. "Breast"
BSNBC would be facing a huge fine, and they'd fire Bukkkanan to try to wiggle out of it. :eyes:
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:18 PM
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23. He'd say something like this
"I'm just here to appeal to the dim bulbs who make our ratings look good for the advertisers".
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:22 PM
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24. msnbc likes the attention they get from Pat's remarks.
Or maybe msnbc completely agrees with him.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:24 PM
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25. I don't even think he's employed there.
He just hangs out in the green room, hitting-up producers about any late cancellations.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:26 PM
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26. Matthews' sexist rants didn't get him fired. Why would Buchanan's racism get him fired?
They both deserve it.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:57 PM
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27. one more kick
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:12 AM
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28. I used to half ..well maybe a quarter ..ok maybe an eighth respect that guy.


Now he is Joe the plumber in my book.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:20 AM
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31. But he says it all with that funny "granpa Pat" smile and that nice old granpa voice - so it's ok.
He's just a nice old man with some old goofy ways - you know....






I hope I don't need a sarcasm tag for this, do I?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 12:37 AM
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32. I think that is what gets him off a lot of the harsh criticism that he deserves
He reminds a lot of people of someone they know who is a "nice guy" but just has a lot of funny ideas.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 03:07 AM
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33. Yup. He's like a spider that hides on the forest floor- looking like a fallen leaf.
He uses camouflage to conceal his venom.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:12 AM
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36. Tim Russert wasn't all that.
Yep, those are the words that would lead to ol' Pat being shown the door. Anything else is OK.

Julie
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:31 AM
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37. Yeah, But I Don't Think Russert Ever Uttered A Remotely Bigoted Remark
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 06:33 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 01:26 PM
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39. No, I'm saying that if Buchanon said that
they might consider firing him.

Julie
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:28 AM
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38. morning kick
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