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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:36 PM
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Top Freeper on MSNBC with Shuster
He will not shut up and is ignoring questions from Shuster.

Kisten Taylor

Jim Robinson will not apologize.

Short sement ... pretty much worthless, really
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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1. Shuster let himself be entirely shouted over, shut down and silenced by Taylor.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM by Berry Cool
I am utterly disappointed with him. What a wimp.

Adding more to elaborate for the cube rats: Taylor yelled and shouted and would not let Shuster get a word in edgewise, saying that Shuster's story was a lie, that he must have gotten it from Daily Kos and they are not a reliable source of information, that the thread of malicious statements was NEVER put back up after being taken down--that was a lie too--and that while sometimes the Freepers overstep the site's standards, "At least we HAVE standards. The leftwing mainstream media HAVE NO STANDARDS." ("What they said about Sarah Palin's children was far worse.")

When Shuster went silent and let him speak, he spoke calmly and quietly, but everything he said, on which he was not at all challenged by Shuster once the initial shouting match was over (David never got a serious word in to challenge anything he said) was that Free Republic carefully monitors itself but the MSM do not, and the people in the MSM who castigate Republicans and conservatives every day do so with impunity and remain welcome within it. He also said Jim Robinson is not responsible for what individuals post and thus has no need to apologize for it.

That was all. Not a word spoken to contradict a thing he said.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:40 PM
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7. Wow. That's not like him. I hope they replay the clip later nt
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:40 PM by ecstatic
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:40 PM
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8. I agree ..... Shuster lost that one
Well ..... sorta. Taylor looked like a cheap lawyer with a mail order degree. He cam off as whiny and rude.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:42 PM
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13. Taylor was on the defensive from the get-go.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM by AngryOldDem
Plus, how can you really explain slander against an 11-year-old?

I got the sense that Shuster was battling time...I would have rather had a few minutes shaved from the CIA story and added to this one. Someone needs to start calling out FR on its bullshit. It has to own what it decides to display on its site.

EDIT: Word choice.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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2. Saying "top freeper" is like saying "best venereal disease"
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM by Renew Deal
There's nothing good about it and it's a pain to get rid of.

:shrug:
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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:52 PM
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20. LOL!! n/t
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:54 PM
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22. Psstt... it's called Sexually Transmitted Disease, now.
Because "venereal disease" makes it sound like the fault of only women.

Just wanted to let you know that your comment was kind of sexist, even though I'm sure you didn't intend for it to be.

That said, I agree with your thought process. :hi:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:56 PM
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26. Actually, I thought they changed it again, to Sexually Transmitted Infection?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:04 PM
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30. Yup.... STIs...
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:56 PM
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25. ROFL
Perfect analogy. :rofl:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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3. Rim Job on TV?
ewwwww!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:45 PM
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16. It wasn't RimJob, it was some idiot named Kristinn Taylor.
A guy named Kristinn. Yes.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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4. Kisten Taylor looks like a sleaze.
Talks like a sleaze.

What shifty eyes and whining tone.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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5. That was disappointing. Shuster should have been more explicit.
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:42 PM
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12. He should have
He also let the freeper dominate the conversation. Standard right wing tactic of talking constantly.

That was disappointing. He let them off easy.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:39 PM
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6. Just like all the pubs who get going he never shut up.
Smartass and no apology. I bet the freepers loved it. But so did I because it put them out there as racists and worse.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:40 PM
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9. Worst person(s) candidate maybe?
Or perhaps an entire segment about them on Olbermann's show tonight.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:00 PM
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29. Yeah, that would br great if Keith took it on. My 11 yo told me he wants me
to go back to recording political and news shows again so I already set TiVo to get KO and Rachel, who he has seen before, and also Big Ed who he has not yet heard of.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:42 PM
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31. Boy if Ed gets on this story
I doubt that anyone will be able to shout him down. The man is a master debater and can make his opponents look foolish. Of course, FR does that all by themselves.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:40 PM
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10. Made a complete asshole of himself.
The statement about they cannot help what people post? Yeah, true...but they sure as hell can do something about the kind of crap they allow to remain.

GMAFB....:eyes:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM
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11. I was expecting more
Taylor just keep deflecting blame and talking over Schuster. I expected David to handle this more agressively. Usually he's pretty forceful.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM
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14. Damn, I wish that could've been uncensored. Shuster couldn't fully go at that fucker
but he was very clearly disturbed and furious at the crap that was being spewed.

Definitely not Shuster's best performance, but sometimes when you're so angry, you are not as effective as you can be. They need to polish things up and come in for round two with the writer from the Vancouver article and destroy those lying POSs.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM
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15. Any decent person would apologize...
If the Freeps want to be known for being malicious and ignorant--let the banner fly!

And also...how in the world does anyone lose this argument, if they're trying???

How does anyone justify calling a young African American girl, "ghetto trash"???
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:47 PM
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18. As far as I'm concerned, Shuster gave a lot of power away from the start
because either he refused, or MSNBC would not let him, quote a SINGLE THING SAID.

All he did was make vague reference to "inappropriate" things being said. Never did he specify that the words "ghetto" or "trash" were used, that anyone speculated as to when Malia would get "her first abortion," etc.

A person just tuning in who had no clue what had been said would think it was a silly media-created tempest in a teapot.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:46 PM
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17. video here:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:50 PM
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19. Freep said the comments were "exagerated"
I wish Shuster asked him if he'd like to hear the comments read aloud on TV and credited to his forum. Then viewers could decide if they were over the top.

Shuster could have said "Ghetto Trash" on the show without repercussion. That would defuse Taylor's claim that the issue was overblown by Kos.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:54 PM
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21. Which is bullshit.
There is no degree of inappropriateness as it concerns racial and sexist remarks -- one can't be seen as being "not as bad" or "not as offensive" than the other -- especially when such remarks are directed at a child.

This was not FR's finest hour, like it has any anyway.

People can check it out for themselves, so I'm sure the scrub brushes are out in full force over there.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:55 PM
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24. Gads....
....I read the Vancouver article that quoted the offensive comments from the Freepers ~~ it takes a lot to shock me and what was posted on FR most certainly did.

It was so below the level of acceptable, it is hard to describe.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:58 PM
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27. wah johnny ringo.. you're no daisy, no daisy a'tall
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:25 AM
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32. That's what I hear
Heh heh
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:54 PM
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23. I think they're probably happy they got free airtime BUT...
I think if people actually check out their website like they're hoping will happen, they'll soon see the vile comments and racism for themselves. I think this is a case of... if you like that sort of thing, you'll like that sort of thing and if you don't, you won't. Anyone who would feel at home there at Free Republic wasn't about to be swayed by the fact that they disrespected an 11 year old anyway. So, generally, I'd say the appearance was a bit of a wash for both sides, possibly even a touch of an advantage on Shuster's side though because I would HOPE most people would be against speaking ill of an innocent girl. :shrug:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:59 PM
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28. Typical freeper---rude to the core n/t
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