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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:15 PM
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If our health care system was so good others would adapt it
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 01:19 PM by rurallib
And the line for adapting our system currently stands at ....ZERO,NADA, OUGHT.

I believe Red China adapted our system as they slipped into their version of capitalism. But even they couldn't handle it and have since changed to a form of universal care.
So if imitation is the best form of praise then the most praised system is .... universal, governmentally highly regulated health care.
Does this mean a damned thing to US senators such as Blanche Lincoln, Kent Conrad, Kay Hagan, Ben Nelson, Diane Feinstein and more?
Why is the so-called "uniquely American" solution so sacred? We don't want unique, we simply want something that works!
(this rantis good enough that I have adapted it for an LTTE!)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:17 PM
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1. "adopt".
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:18 PM
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2. whichever - the conept is that no one wants our pice of crap.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:21 PM
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3. Heh - you remind me of this video....
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:24 PM
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4. EXCELLENT point. I don't see other modern nations lining up to be ranked so low at such high costs.
If we've got "the best healthcare in the world" then how come we rank shockingly low in infant mortality and other health indicators?

Why are other nations not striving to spend an equivalently crippling portion of their GDP to watch their citizens go bankrupt and hover near the bottom of every health statistics list?
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:26 PM
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5. I fear they are going about it ALL WRONG.
100% of the discussion has been:

1) what can be done politically.

2) what we can "afford"

3) what we can do visa via "the law"

4) what will work with people who don't want anything to do with it (ie: the insurance companies)

NOT ONCE have I seen / heard a discussion about WHAT WOULD BE THE *BEST* HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

That's why, if it's going to fail, it's gonna fail. There is ZERO input being given to what would make this this ANY GOOD.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:30 PM
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6. No country that has ever adopted a public option or single payer has ever gotten rid of it.
It's obvious that they're doing something right, whereas our "system" is utterly wrong.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:31 PM
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7. Where is the rush by Europeans to become US citizens? nt
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:39 PM
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8. excellent point, to be well used against the rethug/libertarian "healthcare ins't a right "crowd
my br. got into (he's got a long standing mildly infuriating argument going with someone) a debate again about healthcare with a libertarian, who claimed
that health care isn't a "human right"

to paraphrase went s/th like this:

pauler: health care is not a human right. it's a choice (brings up poor people using up services)

br: poor people have to go to the ER because they have no insurance,..what if someone breaks their arm, shatters their elbow, do they have a choice to go to the hospital?

pauler: yes..they don't *neccessarily* have to go to a dr. or hospital

the pauler talking points from then on degenerated..


my brothers'  retelling of this..he kept telling me, "wait wait, don't get angry yet! "

me: you know what, I bet they can go to the hairdresser maybe? That's cheaper. Or, the dog groomer? 
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