Venezuela's Chavez praises Ahmadinejad's "great victory"

[JI7]

Source: monster and critics

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Sunday praised the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president of Iran as a 'great victory' and condemned nay-sayers who have raised questions about the legitimacy of Friday's election results.

Chavez, who hailed Ahmadinejad as a colleague and close ally, said such critics are 'spokesmen for imperialism.' He congratulated Ahmadinejad personally on the phone on Saturday and the two leaders agreed to meet in the near future.

'It has been a great victory' but it was being 'besmirched' by such critics, Chavzez charged.



Read more: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1483485.php/Venezuelas_Chavez_praises_Ahmadinejads_"great_victory"_

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[proud patriot]

1. hmmm

:grr:

[ohio2007]

39. ?

45. Question is, which countries have sent letters of congratulation to the mullahs already for keeping it fair and open ?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3921665&mesg_id=3921915


Rule By Decree in nutjobs future?
LOL

the mullahs would have him burried in an ant hill before they gave him any real power

[bluestateguy]

Looks like Ugo hasn't missed any trips to the buffet

nt

[MADem]

2. Here's the VZ government's press release. If you read Spanish, it's quite obvious he's overjoyed.

http://www.presidencia.gob.ve/action/noticia/view_ver_mas?id_noticia_web=2969

[dipsydoodle]

12. Proof this isn't LBN - your link is dated Saturday.

n/t

[MADem]

37. Well, this isn't my OP. I didn't start this thread. I'd say tell the original poster, but the point

is moot.

[bananas]

19. That's dated 13-06-2009, this shouldn't be in LBN

as others have pointed out.

[junior college]

3. Ha ha

Chavez is always trying to piss off the capitalist pigs. I love it.

[cali]

36. your comment reflects your screen name, beautifully.

It's perfectly inane and sophmoric.

[Syrinx]

4. Some here will suggest otherwise...

But Mr. Chavez is not a good man.

[EFerrari]

7. Is the EU also a bad man? They, too, have recognized the election results.

[Syrinx]

8. I didn't realize the European Union was a man, good or bad

I hadn't heard that the EU had recognized the election results. But that's not material to my comment.

I'm not going to cheerlead for Chavez, nor for Ahmadinejad. Why people on Democratic Underground applaud these dictatorial clowns is beyond my ability to understand.

[EFerrari]

10. I wonder how many nations sent regards to Tehran on Friday

but what we hear is, Chavez did. And it gets posted Sunday night.

Predictable.

[Syrinx]

13. do you actually believe Ahmadinejad won by such a wide margin?

I don't.

[EFerrari]

14. I've put in too many hours working election reform

to believe anything about vote counting.

But, I also don't believe that Chavez was the only head of state to call Tehran on Friday.

[Syrinx]

15. Did anyone say that he was?

I don't think I did.

[EFerrari]

17. That's the implication of this undated OP which isn't LBN in the first place.

That's all right. We already heard today from twitter that Chavez sent riot police to Iran. lol

[clixtox]

32. Perhaps if you try a bit harder...

In the first place try harder to rid your comments of ignorant characterizations like referring to these elected leaders as "dictators".

They are no more "dictators" than Obama, Bush2, Bush1 or Clinton are, or were.

Maybe even a little less than Bush2...

Resist spouting right-wing talking points like they are relevant, particularly when it is about foreign policy or foreign leaders.

Your title also indicates a lack of imagination, or feigned thickheadedness.

Demonizing the leaders of countries who don't succumb to the truly dictatorial directives of our Corporate masters doesn't make them demons!

Really!

They certainly are not dictators, if they were they would have to be considered two of the least dictatorial dictators in history.

Actually having elections? Dictators?

Especially in Venezuela the elections are honest, fair and observed by monitors from other countries. Not your typical dictator, Chavez...

We don't know enough about what happened in Iran yet to make wild accusations based solely on reports in the craven, corrupt M$M.

[MADem]

38. Me neither. But then, if it were a woman, I imagine it would have more sense.

I don't get why people praise dictatorial thugs here either--any association of "liberals" with bozos whose main purpose is to acquire wealth and power and luxury for THEMSELVES, while giving "the poor" a slightly better (but not much better) life than they had, and then calling themselves socialists, when in fact they're more like kings who don't totally fuck over their serfs, is beyond me.

They're to the right of the worst rightie, but because they dole out some of the nation's wealth "equally," (or what fools think is equally) they get a reputation for being, politically speaking, along a spectrum where they don't belong.

Truth to tell, Dinner Jacket and Hugo are closer to Bush's optimal leadership goal than most would want to admit. Bush would have loved to have been able to just bark an order and make it happen, have a small cadre of toady-elites around him who kissed his ass, keep the bulk of the population on the wage-slave treadmill, hand them little "presents" like cheap phones named after slang words for Large Penis, and rarely have his authority questioned because he can rely on a population that cannot see their way out of poverty, and instead are looking to the next half day off that the Glorious Leader deigns to give them, or the next subsidy on a staple food item so they'll be able to eat a little better, or a bit of medical attention from the next planeload of indentured Cuban doctors, traded for barrels of oil, who are kept under house arrest while they ply their trade.

They just can't ever raise their head all the way up, because the minute they leave the poverty rolls, they become the enemy to Hugo. The nail that sticks up will be hammered down. He just doesn't like the middle class--those uppity folk have "ideas"---ideas that might not include him at the helm.

[JI7]

9. i think he is ok

but wrong on this.

[clixtox]

28. Yes, you are correct about Hugo Chavez!

Hugo Chavez is a great leader and the best hope for the underclass in Venezuela in their history!

"Good" doesn't do his amazing career justice...

Absolutely correct.

Thanks for setting the record straight about a true hero of the people and enemy of their oppressors.

[reggie the dog]

29. Chavez has done many good things

I think his praise of Iran's president is more to spite the USA than anything, but it is petty and he is probably supporting someone who cheated.

[JDPriestly]

35. I agree with you on this one, Syrinx. Chavez is a narcissistic ego-maniac.

Shares a lot of the negative personality characteristics that Bush had, only Chavez is worse because he is less constrained. Chavez manners are even worse than Bush's. And bad manners are a reflection of inner respect for others. Good manners are not a matter of following rules but of genuinely caring about those around you.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. I smell sulfur

or is that beelzebub?

[EFerrari]

6. That's from Saturday morning and the call to Ahmadinejad

was made on Friday, not today:

(Basseterre, Federación de San Cristóbal y Nieves) Minutos después de conocerse los primeros sondeos oficiales por parte de las autoridades electorales de Irán, este viernes, el presidente Hugo Chávez se comunicó telefónicamente con su homólogo Mahmoud Ahmadineyad, para transmitir las felicitaciones del pueblo venezolano por el gran triunfo obtenido en las recientes elecciones presidenciales.

http://www.presidencia.gob.ve/action/noticia/view_ver_mas?id_noticia_web=2969

I see no update. It's hard to believe that Venezuela was the only country that noted the results on Friday although, it's no surprise that it would be singled out.

[pnorman]

11. THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&ei=SxYqSvrWPKq4qAPTsbSTCQ&q=the+revolution+will+not+be+televised&hl=en

Many others as well as myself, have cited that documentary to counter far-Right attacks on Chavez. Well, it's STILL applicable here!

pnorman
On edit: if my meaning should be unclear to anyone here, I'll be specific: Chavez has just embraced the sort of despotism that tried to depose HIM.

[democracy1st]

16. both of these clowns 100% pure jokes

[EFerrari]

18. The people of Venezuela, who are much better off today than they were

ten years ago, apparently disagree with you.

[EFerrari]

20. You know something, this article isn't even accurate.

Chavez own website says the call was placed on Friday, not Saturday. What's up with that?

[Prometheus Bound]

21. It also says "Moussavi...was expected to win according to pre-election polls."

I saw only one poll but it showed Ahmadinejad with 34% of committed voters compared to 14% for Moussavi one month before the election.

[JI7]

22. maybe he followed up on it so he could criticize those who are questioning

the results.

[EFerrari]

23. The post at the government website is from Saturday morning.

And wasn't our government more or less critical right off the bat?

Whatever. China, the Arab League, the EU, a lot of states rang up Ahmadinejad on Friday. It's perverse to single out Chavez and also to post those pictures as if they have anything to do with the OP.

All it does is further the RW nutcases claim that Chavez is conspiring with Iran to nuke us, which clearly isn't the case.

[JI7]

25. because Chavez is considered to be better than most of them, and EU has questioned the results

also.

Chavez and Mahmud are good friends and that's the only reason he is supporting him so i think the pics show that.

[EFerrari]

26. You don't know that they are friends at all.

You've seen the outside of a business relationship. But, that's all right.

What's important is that this election is going to be raked over in Iran. Maybe they'll get somewhere.

[tocqueville]

24. the extreme left always side with the enemy

the word "anti-imperialistic" is sufficient, the they write revisionist history about the atrocities committed by Stalin, Trotskij, Mao, Che Guevara, Castro, Pol Pot, Milosevic etc... when it becomes too blatant, they say that it was a "sad episode", that it was "historically necessary" and anyway done "in the name of the people".

and of course screws up for the others giving arguments to the right...

[EFerrari]

27. LOL! I wonder how many other "extreme left" governments

made the pro forma call to Tehran on Friday.

[reggie the dog]

30. autrocities committed by Che Guevara???

Che never was in power anywhere. He was hell bent on helping latin and south american throw off their oppressors sponosored by the USA but you cannot lump him in with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Milosevic who outright killed off opposition, neither with Castro who denied freedom of speech to Cubans. Please enlighten me. What did che do that was so bad? Hell what is the worst that Trotski did? Trotski was no Lenin or Stalin or Pol Pot or Mao!

[EFerrari]

31. Trotsky slept with Frida Kahlo?

[bread_and_roses]

33. And Obama gave his speech from torturing, dictatorial Egypt

Maybe we should look at our own continuing support for repressive regimes before we get too worked up about Chavez?

None of the evidence I've read supports any claim that Chavez is a dictator or that Venzueleans are under a repressive regime. The same cannot be said of Ahmadinejad, and I think Chavez's embrace of him is vile. But I find selective condemnation hypocritical.

[JDPriestly]

34. Does this mean Hugo Chavez wants nuclear weapons? Or is Chavez

converting to the Muslim religion? Or is this simply Chavez thumbing his nose at the U.S.? Personally, I can't stand Ahmadinejad and don't like Chavez.