"The vote (in Iran) wasn't stolen, the vote wasn't EVEN COUNTED. It was invented."

[BlooInBloo]

A great, scary update. To much to post here. Go read it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/14/742253/-Early-Report-Day-Two:-Media-Police-Run,-Protestors-Trapped-by-Police,-Ayatollahs-Daughter-Arrested.

"Removing the Ayatollah? It's possible according to Trita Parsi.

Clearly, the anti-Ahmadinejad camp has been taken by surprise and is scrambling for a plan. Increasingly, given their failure to get Khamenei to intervene, their only option seems to be to directly challenge -- or threaten to challenge -- the supreme leader.

I will be liveblogging for another 3 hours at least. Reports as they come in.

Update 2

Cell Phone service and some internet is being restored to the capitals, and reports are coming in on twitter, hundreds by the minute.

The most important from Mousavi's dedicated followers twitter who is calling throughout the nation to figure out whats going on.

NEWS: NO teargas was used in Rasht, Iran. Riot police beating ppl, and blocked streets.

These news are CONFIRMED, on phone with ppl from Rasht now.

NEWS: Riot police has been beating many protesters in Rasht, but new protests on their way in afternoon

It's also CONFIRMED that majority of ppl in Rasht voted for Mousavi.

Local and national news outlets, including television stations; are not reporting the riots or any other new news, and going on as if nothing has happened. The police are in control of the Iranian press.

AP is being told that foreign press must be prepared to leave the country. Looks like they don't want a foreign audience to witness their massacre.

CONFIRMED Image of after the riot, for our Calvin Klein friend up top. Posted via email, late. "

[ThomWV]

1. Caller into C-Span this morning (from Iran) said extremests are beating people in the streets

Not just the military or police, but also religious extremists are beating protestors in the streets. The guy wasn't very well spoken but his message was clear enough to be understood.

[KittyWampus]

11. Oddly, this coup is secular and exposes Khomeni as a tool of secular forces.

[BlooInBloo]

2. Sully: "The Real Results?"...

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-real-results.html

"The Real Results?

This is hearsay - but under conditions of a police state coup, we are best advised to glean what information we can, hold it provisionally, and test it as time passes. Here's what Kos Diarist Electronic Maji is hearing from Iranian journalist friends under lockdown:
Unofficial news - reports leaked results from Interior Ministry:
Eligible voters: 49,322,412
Votes cast: 42,026,078
Spoilt votes: 38,716
Mir Hossein Mousavi: 19,075,623
Mehdi Karoubi: 13,387,104
Mahmoud Ahmadi-nejad (incumbent): 5,698,417
Mohsen Rezaei (conservative candidate): 3,754,218


If this is true, it would explain the comically lop-sided total in reverse - a lovely gesture from the regime taken direct from Machiavelli - and the panicked reaction by the regime. "


Sully links to the Kos diary in the OP.

[KittyWampus]

12. those numbers simply don't make sense.

[gblady]

3. I remember reading...

folks witnessing the crates containing the ballots being taken away without being counted.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Ouch - got a link to that?

[gblady]

17. bloo....

I can't remember which blog I read it on, but this says
the same thing...votes not counted.

from:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/iran-demonstrations-viole_n_215189.html
scroll down to 5:44 PM last night

Journalist: Please don't use the word "fraud" because it is mitigation of what has happened in Iran. Fraud is what was happening in the past 30 years. This is not fraud. They haven't counted people's votes. Using the word fraud is like calling a deep cut a small scratch. There was no fraud; it was a coup.

RFE/RL: Please explain why you call it a coup. Based on what?

Journalist: Based on the military atmosphere that is now ruling , based on the threats against senior officials in the country. What are the elements of a coup in the world? Just now as we're speaking, said I'll clean the Iranian establishment of all these corrupted elements. a coup, then what is it?

Coup means that right now they're beating people in the streets. A coup means they didn't even count people's votes. They announced the results without opening the ballot boxes. It was sent as a circular to the state television, which announced it. Is it so difficult for the world to understand this?

[NYC_SKP]

4. Yep. Recommended.

I followed several Twitter feeds (who knew that Twitter would kick ass as THE last reliable source?).

Even if 95% of the tweets are inaccurate or misrepresentations, the other 5% confirm the beatings and other aspects.

CNNfail! http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23CNNfail

PS: I hope they have the revolution/counter-coup/recount or whatever it takes to make this right.

:kick:

[BlooInBloo]

6. #cnnfail is one of my fav tags on this.

[truedelphi]

9. How is it that twitter accounts in Iran are able to send?

Is it through wireless technology, or what?

I am too old to know about these things. Twitter user myself, but don't know much other than without my DSL my tweets would not fly anywhere. And I am sure if we had martiqal law here, that the twitter ability would be suspended. (under martial law, I am sure they would grab the internet and shut it down.)

[NYC_SKP]

14. Through phone land lines and modems, even slow dial-up connections.

That was the impression I got from reading some of the posts from people at the university.

[GuvWurld]

13. Question: how to know what to believe?

NYC_SKP wrote:

Even if 95% of the tweets are inaccurate or misrepresentations, the other 5% confirm the beatings and other aspects.

You are acknowledging that a vast majority of what you are receiving from Twitter is not correct so how can you or anyone presume to know what is correct? I'm not challenging you, just raising a general question about these times that I have raised many times before, especially about our fabricated "elections" and the entirely invented results, though also about anything the media says about government, corporations or the military: how do we know what to believe?

FWIW, my view is that inherent uncertainty is intentionally introduced, thus creating a rift in the perception of reality and turning truth into the ultimate wedge issue.

[BlooInBloo]

15. Bullshit. NYC_SKP did NOT acknowledge "that a vast majority of what you are receiving from Twitter..

is not correct"

NYC_SKP said "EVEN IF".

Read, and don't make shit up.

[truedelphi]

16. And also with the disdain that this nation has showered upon the

Democratically elected head of State, Iran, circa 1953, I don't really know who to believe.

I mean, we sort of do have a dog in this fight, right? And it is not Ahmadinejad

[Scurrilous]

7. K & R

:thumbsup:

[GuvWurld]

8. vote count invented here too

this is exactly what I've been saying about US "elections" for years - they are not really elections at all, just events that resemble elections closely enough that the world goes along with it (and shame on all Americans for allowing it). meanwhile, we have corporate computers supposedly counting the vote but allowing no means for recounts; we have nonsense results reported, such as negative vote totals or more votes than voters; and we have media reporting the results as fact, without any independent verification, even though the only source of their information is the government itself. our "elections" are complete fabrications too, invented to placate the public into going along with the grand illusion (Big Lie) that this is actually a democracy. this is one of the hallmark traits that always occurs when a country becomes fascist.

[Michigan-Arizona]

10. Exactly!