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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:20 AM
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Right wing couple: We are being HARMED by thinking we don't agree with
Ginny and Jim Maziarka of West Bend earlier this year asked the community board to remove books that the couple considers to be obscene or child pornography from a section of the library designated "Young Adults." The couple formed an organization, West Bend Citizens for Safe Libraries, to promote their views.

Now the American Library Association reports that the board is facing a lawsuit seeking $120,000 in damages from people claiming to have been personally harmed by the fact that the books are in the library and who are demanding the right to burn said books:

Board members were made cognizant that same evening that another material challenge waited in the wings: Milwaukee-area citizen Robert C. Braun of the Christian Civil Liberties Union (CCLU) distributed at the meeting copies of a claim for damages he and three other plaintiffs filed April 28 with the city; the complainants seek the right to publicly burn or destroy by another means the library’s copy of Baby Be-Bop. The claim also demands $120,000 in compensatory damages ($30,000 per plaintiff) for being exposed to the book in a library display, and the resignation of West Bend Mayor Kristine Deiss for “allow(ing) this book to be viewed by the public.”

http://rightwingwatch.org/content/were-offended-so-give-us-120000-and-right-burn-books
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:23 AM
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1. This is the sort of thing Talibornagains worry about.
If only we could all be so lucky or have that much time on our hands. For such important things. Really.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:25 AM
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2. I will burn one copy of the bible
for every one of these that get taken out of the library. Because I may not be allowed to burn it in front of my house without getting into trouble with the fire department I'll be drinking a lot of beer that night just in case I'm forced to put the fire out.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:47 AM
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16. adding to that....theres rape, incest, adultery, polygamy in the bible
someone needs to point that out to these people...they probably never actually READ the bible of course

if they had they would be burning that too

the judge will throw this out faster then you can say jesus h christ
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:27 AM
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3. Unless the books hit them on the head, how were they harmed by them?
Dear fundies and right wing hooligans: not being able to control what the rest of America reads, thinks, legally does, or who they choose to marry DOES NOT DAMAGE YOU in any way.

:banghead:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:43 AM
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33. Harmed by thinking they don't agree with.
Maybe I'll sue Flush Limpballs...
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:22 AM
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36. Not a bad idea
It would be easy to make the case of how 20 years of that drug-addled pedophile piece of shit being on the radio has damaged this country.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:30 AM
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4. I didn't know libraries were supposed to be safe.
These people are the intellectual equivalent of those con artists that "slip and fall" in grocery stores.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:38 AM
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7. They want their offspring to be able to go anywhere and have their home rules operate
That way, they don't have to actually supervise their kids or teach them how to deal with reality. We are supposed to provide them with THEIR idea of utopia while denying our own liberties.

If they want that level of control over society, there ARE a few countries that provide it. They can move. x(

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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:30 AM
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5. This is bullshit and should be thrown out of court as frivolous
WTF are they thinking?! The book burning fascists that is.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:41 AM
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11. Then, they will be screaming about 'activist judges' who won't promote policy THEY want
They are NOT playing with full decks and/or they do NOT believe in the principles this nation was founded upon.
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:27 PM
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25. I know, and it enrages me so much I see red
you have summed up their game and what they are beautifully. :thumbsup:
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:37 AM
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6. Buy your own copy to burn, capitalist pigs.
The other copy was paid for by the state. It belongs to everybody, and not everybody wants to burn it.


Tough titty.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:39 AM
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8. When did this meme of it being harmful to be exposed to dissenting opinions start?
I'm serious. I knew some fundies growing up and as much as I disagreed with them..they weren't like this....
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:59 AM
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21. Oh, it started ages ago...
Google "Mel and Norma Gabler" sometime, and read up on the influence they had on the Texas State Textbook Committee from the 70's to only a few years ago.

The 70's is probably the turning point you're looking for. There are still fundies around like the ones you grew up with, but the kind that needs to engage in "scent marking for Jayzus" over everything have been emboldened to pull this crap every few years for the last generation.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:40 AM
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9. What, no abortion clinics close enough to bomb? nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:41 AM
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10. Man, these people should at least keep up. The three books were published in 1997, 1999, and 2003.
I swear if I lived there, I'd wander through the library's religion/theology section, and then file a multi-thousand dollar lawsuit because I was offended and 'harmed' by the books being there.

The Geography Circle - 2003
The Perks of Being a Wallflower - 1999
Baby Be-Bop - 1997
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:42 AM
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12. "demanding the right to burn said books"

*performs a quick scan of The Bill Of Rights*

Holy shit, that really is in there!!!

:wow:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:43 AM
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13. Ohmigosh!
Dearie, dearie me! I hope nobody tells Mr. and Mrs. Maziarka about everybody they see being nekkid as jaybirds underneath their clothes! There'd be another lawsuit for sure.

I'm guessing that the Maziarkas won't be the subject of any of those phony national chamber of commerce ads about the faces of lawsuit abuse.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:43 AM
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14. I'll tell you what is damaging my 'mental and emotional well-being'
Car advertisements with shiny armor speeding down highways. Let's see what these mentally and emotionally anquished people think about the influential damage to the young who believe they will live to an old age and never kill anyone with their car or a car stolen for the thrill.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:45 AM
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15. It's harmful knowing that people like this exist
outside of Orwell and Bradbury
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:48 AM
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17. They're just harmed by thinking, period
Thinking is hard. They'd prefer it if they and their kids didn't have to do it, and they're prepared to limit your civil liberties to achieve that goal.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:51 AM
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18. Take a look at these two....


That's Jim and Ginny!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:52 AM
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19. Looks like she's being harmed by HFCS, and he's being harmed
by a barber with a mixing bowl.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:03 PM
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23. LOL you are bad
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:35 AM
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30. Latte spew....
...:rofl:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:58 AM
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20. just as I thought..check this out..the AFA is behind this shit
this is the blog Ginny Maziarka uses to censor books
the American Family Association is behind this shit

http://wissup.blogspot.com/
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:00 PM
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22. I was wondering about that == good find!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:35 PM
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28. That's a fun read.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 08:36 PM by Toucano
They find the line, "...over the summer, she grew breasts..." to be harmful.

Lunatics.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:36 AM
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31. Well, yeah....
...breasts on a female are ONLY sexual objects, right?

:sarcasm:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:11 PM
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24. It's time to resurrect my proposal - this country should split up - let the
abortion lovers, skin color hatera. war lovers, and righteous religious use their children to fight their own wars and let them believe that they will be safe if they have the Ten Commandments in their Court Rooms. Let them steal their own votes and have their own wall street schemes. And hopefully they will build the world's tallest and thickest wall to separate us from them. I am really angry this week. The news has all been down hill for the country.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:19 AM
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35. they would want there own army and bombs, and you know who
would be there first target.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:57 PM
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26. Christian Taliban at it again, Abortion, Books, if they don't like it you don't need it.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:19 PM
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27. Don't forget all the pharmacists who are SO hurt if they have to dispense birth control pills
I really feel some of them just went into pharmacy work so they could complain they were being persecuted if expected to do their damned job. They don't like birth control so they go into a field to interfere with people getting legitimate prescriptions filled.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:33 AM
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29. I forgot about the Pharmacist who tries to push his views
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:41 AM
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32. Don't let ANYONE forget the pharmacists! They show the lie of 'pro-life' groups. Really ANTI-choice
anti-women, anti-health, anti-civil rights, anti-Ameircan!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:53 AM
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34. They should just shorten it to: We are being harmed by thinking." It obviously
makes their brains hurt.
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