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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:25 AM
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Lieberman, Graham threaten scorched earth on torture pics
June 08, 2009

In an incendiary joint statement, Sens. Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are threatening to use any means possible — including a filibuster — to block the House from overturning their amendment blocking the release of detainee interrogation photos.

Some House Dems were incensed when the pair — with the backing of the White House — inserted a three-year ban on Freedom of Information Act releases of the pictures without notifying them.

After initially saying she'd back the ban, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is apparently wavering under pressure from the left wing of her party.

Word that Pelosi was on the fence prompted Graham and Lieberman to blast away, according to a snior Senate Democratic aide.

Calling the release of the so-called torture pics tantamount to a "death sentence" for some U.S. operatives working in hostile countries, Lieberman and Graham took the unusual step of vowing to attach their ban to every piece of legislation passed in the upper chamber if their amendment is removed from the war supplamental.

Their statement:

“We will employ all the legislative means available to us including opposing the supplemental war spending bill and attaching this amendment, which was unanimously adopted by the Senate, to every piece of legislation the Senate considers, to be sure the President has the authority he needs not to release these photos and any others that would jeopardize the safety and security of our troops.

“The release of the photos will serve as propaganda and recruiting tool for terrorists who seek to attack American citizens at home and abroad. We should strive to have as open a government as possible, but the behavior depicted in the photos has been prohibited and is being investigated. The photos do not depict anything that is not already known. Transparency, and in this case needless transparency, should not be paid for with the lives of American citizens, let alone the lives of our men and women in uniform fighting on our behalf in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

“Let it clearly be understood that without this legislation the photos in question are likely to be released. Such a release would be tantamount to a death sentence to some who are serving our nation in the most dangerous and difficult spots like Iraq and Afghanistan. It is this certain knowledge of these consequences of having the photos released that will cause us to vote against the supplemental and continue our push to turn our important amendment into law.”


read: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0609/Lieb_Graham_threaten_scorched_earth_on_pics.html
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:29 AM
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1. Leve it to two asshole wimps n/t
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:33 AM
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2. POUTRAGE!
Hey, Joe, why not just join the Republicans and make it official?

In the meantime, one wonders what they're so desperate to suppress.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:34 AM
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3. Who are they really protecting? nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:34 AM
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4. bring it on
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:36 AM
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5. '...would jeopardize the safety and security of our troops...'
More concerned for the mercenaries. According to Jeremy Scahill, on Bill Moyers Journal, we now have more mercenaries than troops in Afghanistan.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:01 PM
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6. They can't have it both ways -
either the release of the pics will enflame the passions of the populations overseas, because they will see how we have outraged the prisoners and detainees;

or the pics are no worse than those already released.

If the pics are no worse than the previous ones, why would these pics enrage people who are not already enraged?

How about, instead, saying "these pictures are, indeed, worse than those previously released, and for the safety of our servicemen they will only be shown to the attorneys, judge and juries of those who will be prosecuted for the outrages - including those who issued the orders," and then follow up the statement with TRIALS.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:07 PM
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7. Hindsight is a bitch, eh?
Shoulda thought about this a LONG time ago and opposed the illegal torture to begin with.
Then there may not be pics to hide today.
Assholes having a hissy fit.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:13 PM
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8. Pelosi wavering?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:17 PM
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9. But wghat we did "saved" American lives and we should be Proud
Is it the photos that will cause such a ruckus or is it what the photos show? Proof that the USA does indeed "Torture" prisoners.
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