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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:04 PM
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For those that think that it is "okay" for a federal assault on Roe v. Wade
because "the states will ultimately do the right thing". Well guess what? As an avid Pro-Choice advocate, Planned Parenthood volunteer, and champion for women's rights...I didn't even realize how the states have SLAUGHTERED the spirit of the law--if not the letter of the law.
I just watched Rachel Maddow...and learned that there is ONE abortion clinic each in N. Dakota, S. Dakota, and Wyoming.
Just one. Each.
I believe it said there were 24 states that required waiting periods.
Then there were states that didn't allow insurance funding, then those that didn't allow abortions in any facility that accepted federal funding. Think about that ONE. A federal law that the states don't allow federal funding.
Then you have all of the dollars spent lining the pockets of "abstinence only" cronies that never reaches its intended target.
Then you have the activist pharmacists who refuse to fill morning-after scripts as well as scripts for birth control.
By limiting abortion services, limiting funding for the procedures and requiring more security for the staff and patients--clinics have no choice but to make the cost of the procedure out of reach for a large segment of women who really need the services.
Then you have the terrorists that day in and day out...picket and harass women who want nothing but to get through one of the most difficult of times in their lives. In private.
Healthcare providers who fear for their lives. There are currently TWO physicians who provide last trimester abortions in the ENTIRE country.
How in the HELL has this been allowed?
Why has it been allowed?
There is a full frontal assault on women's rights here that has largely been ignored by Washington.
The states are NOT upholding Roe v. Wade in its intent.
I personally have kept my eye off the prize--thinking the prize was the upholding of Roe v. Wade...but indeed the prize is not allowing the states to make a mockery of federal law.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:07 PM
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1. Well, now you know.
What a victory for the "Christians."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:09 PM
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2. these "christians" would kill Jesus Christ himself
if he walked up to them and challenged their beliefs.
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:26 PM
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7. We did that very thing!
Once upon a time!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:10 PM
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3. Did someone here say that?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:12 PM
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4. Yeah. I have seen that argument more than once
It's been several months since I have seen it...but there is a conservative segment here that thinks wasting our powder on Roe v. Wade is silly because then it will just fall to the states and the states will uphold it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:17 PM
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5. What should be included to your list
If the records of any of these existing clinics were open you would find many, many rich and reich wing supporters who have used the services of these clinics. That's the lie and the hypocracy!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:21 PM
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6. What's that sound?
It's the sound of a Christian jihad backfiring.

In a few years, nearly all the "Fundagelical" Christians are going to be like Frank Schaeffer -- politically liberal, completely mortified, and seeking forgiveness. These are primarily good people who have been led by conscience-free ranters. And they are going to feel the humiliation for a long time, even without our prompting.

Abortion radicalism, opposition to Marriage Equality, sanctified frequent corporal punishment of children, the promiscuous and political use of Capital Punishment, Survivalism and Militia-ism, the whole cynical political marriage of convenience with the plutocratic Right, and the rest ... this nightmare will end with morning.

It's just a sin that people have had to die to wake us all up.

--d!
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:27 PM
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8. The Federal government doesn't always do the right thing...
But states almost never do the right thing.

I'm throwing my support in for the federal government.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:29 PM
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9. Roe v. Wade is settled law
absolutely no right to keep revisiting it as if it is not.
However, the states are using laws to circumvent the intent of federal law. I just cannot see how that is not illegal.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:31 PM
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10. It probably is illegal. But since when has that ever stopped anyone?
Remember, this is Amerka. States are saving the oppressed conservatives from the evil liberal government. We should be praising them as heroes to "justice" and baby jesus!


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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:32 PM
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11. Recommend. Thank you for writing this OP, Horse with no Name. I watched the show
and was appalled by what I learned.

As a life-long advocate of women being able to make their own choices about their bodies and their lives, I find this concerted effort to make abortion services disappear horrifying. For those of us who grew up during the era of "back-alley" and "coat-hanger" abortions, this is an incredibly scary situation. We are losing to a stealth strategy that is being kept hidden by the corporate media. It's effective because there is no effort by the corporate media to explain how horrible it was for women BEFORE Roe v. Wade.

Being a supporter of NARAL and Planned Parenthood, I thought I was up to speed on what's being done to undermine and undo Roe v. Wade, but I guess I wasn't reading the literature thoroughly enough.

Thank you to Rachel Maddow for exposing this insidious war against women's rights.

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