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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:18 AM
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False Premise: Human Life is Sacred
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 09:28 AM by Triana
...If human life is so sacred, why not protest avoidable poverty, tens of thousands of unnecessary infant deaths due to lack of water purification that costs pennies? Why not work to support anti-malaria measures that would save millions of sacred human lives? Why not work to end war or to protect children from environmental contaminants that kill thousands every year? Why not oppose capital punishment that kills innocents or long prison sentences for victimless crimes?

Those who claim they oppose abortion in defense of the sacredness of human life (and don't devote energy and passion to any of these other causes) are speaking non-sense.

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http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/200906/false-premise-human-life-is-sacred

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My comment:

Actually "human life is sacred" to religious extremeists only when it's in the womb and that goes back to the Patriarchy's penchant for controlling women (and their apparent hatred of them and need to keep them "down" and completely subservient to salve their own male insecurities). Outside the womb, these "pro-lifers" don't give a whit shit what happens to people - OBVIOUSLY.

The pretense is that "human life is sacred in the womb 'cause "GAWD" said so. The "GAWD" excuse is just a self-righteous cover-up for their actual agenda - CONTROL. Piece of work, these fundies. "In the beginning, Man created God - in his image" . . .
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:20 AM
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1. because it's not that HUMAN life is sacred... it's that unborn are sacred,
'muricans are sacred and god fearin christians are sacred. the rest of em can go to hell.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:28 AM
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5. "If you're prenatal, you're okay - if you're preschool, you're fucked." George Carlin
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:30 AM
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7. 'zactly.
Reminds me - I miss GC! :(
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:32 AM
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11. boy did that man know how to put it succinctly!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:20 AM
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2. when I come across a stern anti choice person, I ask how many children they've adopted
that usually shuts up the family freepers.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:20 AM
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3. Ummmm......
Our health care system proves that human life is neither sacred or valued. But the money damn sure is.

It also proves that the fricking religious hypocrites do not understand the Biblical teaching about the Good Samaritian.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:27 AM
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4. There was an old editorial cartoon about that ...
showed a guy with a screaming face, firing an AK-47, and wearing a T-Shirt that says "Pro Life". There was an asterisk next the words on the shirt and at the bottom of the panel the words "Expires at birth".
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:29 AM
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6. Bwahahaa! Oh I'd love to find that. I'd SO be posting it everywhere about now. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:30 AM
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8. related rant: Those who say "you can't put a price on a human life"
bullshit - we do it all the time.
Brown peoples lives appear to be pretty cheap. What do we pay for the death of an Iraqi? couple thou?
And as you note what about those whose lives are bent by poverty, who die needlessly for lack of medical care, who turn to crime for lack of opportunity.
Actually the price of a human life is fairly cheap, some much cheaper than others.
pro-life, health care, sexual control and poor pay are simply ways for the overlords to control the masses.
Rant off ( not sure it was coherent.)

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:32 AM
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10. quote coherent - right on and...
...as you say, it boils down to control. Yep.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:31 AM
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9. For a group of people who worship an invisible being...
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 09:31 AM by liberalmuse
and idealize someone they've never met as being powerful, pure and just who always makes the perfect choices, it is not really a stretch to project that onto a fetus, or potential being. Sentient beings ruin their fantasy because they are fallible. 'Beings' of their own creation are much more preferable.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:37 AM
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13. that's why..
....the "in the beginning, man created God" quote is so spot-on, I think.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:34 AM
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12. it`s a pick and save movement....
some people are worth saving more than others.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:39 AM
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14. As George Carlin Once Said...
when he discussed the hypocrisy of the "right to lifers" and how "every life is sacred" yet very happy to cut off funding for schools and health care for those lives once they popped into the real world..."it's just a matter of the timing".

Most definitely it's control...that's what religion is all about. It can be twisted to justify the most selfish and self righteous attitudes based on arrogance and ignorance. It's a world of only blacks and whites, good and evil...no shades and those who are fully indoctrinated can't see a different viewpoint as they've long lost the power of their own self and critical thinking. They need someone else to tell them what to think.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:57 AM
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15. Do you really want to promote the idea that human life is not sacred?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:59 AM
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16. 1. I didn't write that article; 2. No. But look around you.
It's not.

Obviously.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:17 AM
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17. Have to define "sacred" and get agreement before it's even a premise. NT
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:17 AM
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18. Laziness...
It's easier to shut down a clinic than it is to feed millions of undernourished American children.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:36 AM
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19. Zzzzzzing! There it is. Exactly right.
My guess is that's another reason why "pro-pre-lifers" only care about "life" in the womb - once they come out as born, they're too inconvenient to deal with and take too much work - feeding them, educating them, keeping them off the streets.

It's much easier to murder a doctor and bomb some clinics.

DAMN good point.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:58 PM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:59 PM
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21. Pro-lifers don't care about babies. They care about women having the control over their own bodies.
And by "care" I mean they hate the thought of it. They are nothing but a bunch of anti-feminist reactionaries.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:17 PM
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22. control freaks - yep. n/t
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colinmom71 Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:23 PM
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23. Please listen to this documentary...
It pretty much proves your point...

"From the Back Alleys, to the Supreme Court, and Beyond" - http://www.albany.edu/history/FromTheBackAlleys.html
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:31 PM
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24. Excellent! Thank you. Bookmarking. n/t
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