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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:07 PM
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Rahm and Obama convince Steve Israel not to challenge Gillibrand for Senate.
Steve Israel said he believed when someone was appointed to a post that they should have opposition next time around to be sure the people have a voice. But he has withdrawn from any challenge to her now after chats with Democratic leaders.

How Steve Israel Exited The Race

Kristin Gillibrand was appointed to take Hillary Clinton's Senate seat when she became Secretary of State.

This is not what Steve Israel was expecting. The heads-up dinner with Sen. Charles Schumer (D) was eaten. The internal poll showing 60 percent of people were less likely to vote for the incumbent after hearing her record on guns and tobacco had been parsed.

..."His candidacy was an open secret, leaking everywhere, but he resisted the urge to go public before the carefully-laid plan dictated. I believe in doing things on my time frame, at my own comfort level, he said. And I dont want other people to decide when I do things, or how.


The party leaders want Kristin Gillibrand to have no opposition. They say things are less messy that way and save the party money. That is true.

But in my mind a real Democracy should be a little messy at times. Full of people caring about things and running to make a difference.

Rahm called.

Then came the call from the White House. Rahm Emanuel wanted to see him. Immediately. Israel and his team had been expecting to hear from the administration. Just not yet. They had a hunch what was coming. Nonetheless, they held out hope.


The request apparently came from the Senate. ...."taking care of this problem was the first and only favor the Senate Democrats have asked of the White House so far. Somewhat reluctantly, the administration decided to provide for them."

So Israel was given an ultimatum: if he proceeded with the Senate race, the White House would go to great pains to shut off every dollar in the state. With Schumers help, the administration would make sure all the big Democratic donors and institutional players kept their distance. They would show no restraint, even campaigning against him and raising money in Israels own home turf.

Obama himself would come out to campaign in New York City, cutting off at the knees the downstate, Manhattan-focused appeal Israel would have needed to run to Gillibrands left. And perhaps most damning of all, given whom the math dictated Israel would have needed in his column, Emanuel indicated that the nations first black president was prepared to barnstorm through New Yorks black neighborhoods hand-in-hand with the junior senator, employing his appeal to African-Americans to a political degree he usually avoids. Oh, and as for Israel having any role shaping policy in the House while all this was going on? Forget it.

Those were the sticks.

Or, Emanuel told Israel, there was another option. Step aside and earn the gratitude of the White House. Israel wants to be a prime player on green energy, one of Obamas legislative priorities. Common ground could be found. Emanuel knew how to rise through the ranks of the House leadershiphe was third in command, not all that far from being speaker before accepting his job from Obama. Perhaps something along those lines was of interest? And hey, these days, you never know what could happen in politics anywhere in the country, but especially in New York. Another opportunity could arise sooner than he might think. Counting the president and White House chief-of-staff as friends might be of some use.


Go along with the request and be rewarded.

Obama then made a phone call.

Obama told Israel how concerned he was about holding the Senate seat for Democrats and the worrisome effect of a serious primary. Party unity at this moment, Obama told him, was extremely important. Israel acknowledged what was in play.

Mr. President, I understand your views, I understand how seriously you feel about this, he said, and to respect party unity and your request, I wont pursue it this year.


The same thing will happen in the Arlen Specter Senate race. Joe Sestak has had some talking to already.

Word out of Washington, D.C., is that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and the political wiseguys from the Obama administration plan on "visiting with" Pennsylvania Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak.

Their objective is clear: Get him off the stage and out of a primary race against incumbent (and now Democrat) Sen. Arlen Specter.


There were instances in Florida that were very upsetting. Here is one where a good Democrat, a school teacher with strong Democratic views...was literally forced out of the race so a Republican could run. A Republican hand-picked by Rahm and Karen Thurman, state chair.

Democrat forced out of the race in FL 16th


Dave Lutrin and family

David Lutrin, a school teacher, union activist and staunch supporter of immediate withdrawal from Iraq, decided to run against Foley before Mahoney entered the race. After Mahoney declared his candidacy, Lutrin was contacted by field organizers for the DCCC who asked him to drop out and let Mahoney run unopposed.

According to Lutrin, when he refused to step aside, the DCCC shored up local political support for Mahoney. The local AFL-CIO chapter, of which Lutrin was a member, came out with an early endorsement of Mahoney's campaign. According to Lutrin, the union told him that "they would like to back a fellow union brother, but Mahoney has more money and more political support from the party." Lutrin eventually dropped out of the race when the local teachers' union decided to support Mahoney


Tim Mahoney, that righteous family man chosen to appeal to the right wing....was caught having two affairs and lost the election this time around. Now the seat is back in Republican hands.

Yes, I posted about Dave Lutrin before. It is important to realize how the party does things. David posted here once and said he would run again.

I hope he does. When a party is heading too far to the right, there are things more important than party unity.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:09 PM
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1. I don't agree with them disenfranchising state Dems by taking competiton away.
This taking primaries out of the hands of the state party members is not cool.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:12 PM
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2. maybe that's how they do it in.....Chicago. nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:38 PM
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15. and here i thought the chicago slurs were over.
they do it that way pretty much everywhere, but thanks for the insult.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:15 PM
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42. John Russell,Bob Bowman And Clint Curtis Know A little Bit About Rahm & Co. CORRUPT AS HELL!
Rahm is a right wing FAS*IST!
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:17 PM
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43. Let's NOT Forget About Karen "Soww Me Da Money Thurman Either!



HERE is the Dateline NBC type Interview of the Crooked FDP Chairwoman! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM1qEtNIgSM
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:18 PM
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44. And Jan Scheider as well as Dave Lutrin.
There are a couple of others, one named Carol, who were shoved out very quickly in South Florida races.

They all know who picks the guys to run.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:35 PM
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46. Yep! Jan Got F*cked By The Powers Tha Be Also!
The ENTIRE STATE PARTY IS CORRUPT! Rahm IS The Ultimate Piece of Garbage!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:41 AM
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22. You should teach a class...Freeperism 101.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:13 PM
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3. Denials started already.
The article I posted is dated May 26. This article of an aide denying any threats is dated May 22.

I notice the denials are started already about Specter and Sestak. Sometimes denials have an empty ring to them.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usisra2312795371may22,0,3083766.story

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:17 PM
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4. The Hill today seems to verify the efforts by the administration.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-giving-a-lift-to-vulnerable-dem-lawmakers-2009-05-30.html

"President Obama is suddenly seizing on the role of Democratic kingmaker, stepping in to protect or promote colleagues in Congress.

Early after his election victory, Obama did not expend political capital on congressional races, but in recent weeks he has sought to lengthen his coattails by protecting vulnerable Democratic lawmakers facing tough election races in 2010.

..."For example, Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), who has seen his polling drop precipitously before his 2010 reelection bid, is already running an early television ad that he released Friday. The subject? His work on the credit card bill, complete with a soundbite from Obama praising Dodd at the legislations signing ceremony.

The president has also reiterated his support of Dodd in interviews with reporters and the Connecticut senator joined Obama at a Democratic National Committee (DNC) fundraiser in Los Angeles this past week.

.."Obama has not been shy about supporting Specter either. He hosted a photo opportunity at the White House with the Pennsylvania senator the day after his party switch, praised him at his last primetime press conference, and he joined Obama at the same DNC fundraiser alongside Dodd.

Other lawmakers facing uncertain reelection campaigns have benefited from Obamas help. He praised Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) at events in Nevada this past week, including a fundraiser for him. And the president has helped clear the way for freshman Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), calling Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) to ask him not to challenge her in a primary."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:21 PM
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5. Doing stuff like this blew up in FDR's face in 1938. nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:21 PM
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6. We have the power....
we need to wield it everyday.

Those seeking to control the party
from the top down, stomping out
primary challenges and strong-arming
grassroots candidates out of the picture
and NOT lovers of democracy.

The only way to break the hold
and put progressive pressure on our
representatives is to donate directly
to progressive candidates and organizations.

AND to continue to vote for the progressive
if we are given a choice.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:40 AM
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23. Yes, and we need to use it.
:hi:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:22 PM
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7. Well I thought Steve Isreal's support of secret list for gun ownership
was ridiculous, I also think secret no fly lists are ridiculous, secret lists are wrong.

So I was not a big Steve Isreal fan.

But as far as supporting primary challenges from the left, I am all for it. If things are to tightly aligned with big money interest in the senate or congress, then moving the Democrats to the left sounds like a great idea to me.

I am sure many thinking challengers are available to replace officials that do not represent the people in their constituencies, or the ideas of equality for all people, or the support of laws enforced equally on all groups.

Primary challenges are essential to a continued healing of the United States in my view. Of coarse its a case by case bases, and like other political comments, just my opinion.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:24 PM
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8. Hey fellow floridian
Did you get this email today too? What a shame. mojorabbit

From:
"Dan Gelber" <[email protected]>

Friends,

As you may know I have decided to step back from my U.S. Senate bid. I wanted to let you know the reasons.

When Governor Crist announced he would be a candidate for US Senate, he created a domino effect that opened up every seat on the cabinet. At a time when our state is facing its greatest challenges, ironically, we have our greatest uncertainty and dislocation. But I believe this is also an opportunity the chance to set a new course that avoids the mistakes of the past and tracks a better future for our families.

It makes little sense -- when we do face the prospect of real change in Florida -- for me to participate in a potentially divisive primary for U.S. Senate that will only serve to diminish our chances against a very formidable and well-known Republican nominee.

I also believe that we have a historic opportunity here in Florida to reshape the political landscape and more importantly, bring fundamental change to Tallahassee. I have had a number of conversations with Senators Graham and Nelson, and CFO Alex Sink, about how we can best unify our party and move forward with a slate of candidates that can communicate our vision for a better Florida, and I look forward to continuing these discussions. I would like to hear your thoughts as you have been a good supporter and friend, and I value your opinion. You can reach me at [email protected]

Thanks again,

Dan
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:27 PM
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11. Yep. Dan got the message. Step out let Kendrick have it to himself.
He knew it was coming the minute Bill Clinton came to campaign for Meek. Oddly he was one of Obama's biggest supporters here.

The state party and national party will orchestrate the election.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:32 PM
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20. go Dan Gelber!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:06 AM
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24. WHY BOTHER TO VOTE ANYMORE..when it is dictated who will represent us!!
this so pisses me off..I will sit out the next election ..if this is the shit that is handed to us!

and no dem will get another damn dime from me! nor another days work.

they are all turning this country into a sham banana republic!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:25 PM
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9. This is what Schumer and the DSCC did in Minnesota in 2006
and the got the state party machinery to go along with them. So now we have Amy Klobuchar for our (only) senator when we could have had a true progressive.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:27 PM
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10. This thuggery is unnecessary to keep a Democratic seat in New York.
There's been one Republican Senator from New York in the last 30 years and none likely on the horizon.

If this is true, "Obama told Israel how concerned he was about holding the Senate seat for Democrats and the worrisome effect of a serious primary. Party unity at this moment, Obama told him, was extremely important.", New York has just swallowed a huge plate of bullshit.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:35 PM
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13. New York is dark blue right now and shoes no signs of going any other way.
NYS Dems should be allowed to vote in a meaningful primary.

ER: Yeah, and on machines like this one-


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:34 AM
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25. Good point. I also thought NY would likely elect a Democrat.
Doesn't seem they would be so fearful of another Dem running against her.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:52 PM
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29. Right . . .
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 12:53 PM by defendandprotect
DLC politics -- bad for small "d" democracy --
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:01 PM
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30. Of course... this has nothing to do with Party unity.
This is about keeping the Party shifted to the pro-war corporate responsive right. Emmanuel and Obama and many of our corrupted Party elites think that kow-towing to Wall Street and our corporate rulers will keep the money spigots open and keep them in power. They would much rather maintain that status quo than support small d democracy, even if it means tearing the Party apart.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:39 PM
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47. Blue dog NY?
Agree. NY can elect a real liberal. Obviously real liberals don't fit into the Rahm/Obama scheme of things. Same story in Pa. I hope Sestak gives Spector a shot anyway. I'm ready to contribute- time and money.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:30 PM
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12. A fly is buzzin over Obama's ointment
Do more liberal/progressive Democrats sense a chink in the armor of DCCC?
A chance to challenge Obama's move to appease the right wing?
There are real progressive candidates in many states wanting to run with the hope that now is indeed the time for change!
The Democratic party elected Obama hoping change would come to Washington. These people are still the true power of the party and will still support any candidate that honestly wants change. Regardless of who the DCCC desires.
Yes, I agree the party is leaning right and important issues are falling by the wayside.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:37 PM
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14. We have to work outside the Party to get progressives elected and the DINO's ousted. nm
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:42 PM
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16. Steve Israel ain't a progressive anyway...he's a big AIPAC shill and is also DLC.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:45 PM
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17. She's a big Blue Dog. She ran as a progressive, then turned to the right.
So I am not sure what point you are making.

My point is that either the party controls who runs or it doesn't control who runs.

I don't know Israel, but Gillibrand fooled us all as a DFA candidate. She is a main reason we stopped all our donations to Democrats for a while.

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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:21 PM
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19. hey -- I didn't say that Gillibrand didn't suck as well
Edited on Sun May-31-09 11:22 PM by FLAprogressive
Israel's bad news too -- big warhawk.....
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:57 PM
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18. Maybe New York should pick its own shills.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:19 PM
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33. That would be a nice change of pace.
Thanks for nothing Rahm!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:39 AM
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21. He should run against Schumer in 2012.
Someone needs to.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:02 PM
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45. He'd get a lot of ridicule for running against Schumer in 2012
Since Schumer is up for re-election in 2010
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:10 AM
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48. even better
run against both of them
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Necon-Be-Gone Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:05 PM
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26. So much for the seperate branches of Government
If Administration picks who runs in the Senate & House races, don't they control two branches of Government.

And isn't it all just run by the Banksters?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:14 PM
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27. Good point.
:-(
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:45 PM
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28. Obama & Rahm/DLC . . . working together for "less messy" elections ... !!!
Basically, Raham is hatching Blue Dog Eggs in the Democratic Party . . .

DLC tactics/bad politics for democrats...
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:02 PM
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31. meh. guess I won't bother to vote anymore.
as a true progressive, my views are not and will never be represented, so why bother? Nader was right: democrats, republicans--what's the difference? the whole thing is just a stinking game that gives certain ass-kissers perks and favors, it has nothing to do with governance or "public service."
they have their script figured out, let them run it without my vote or my money.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:23 PM
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34. Yep.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:12 PM
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32. Gillibrand is a Repug in Dem clothing and there is no way that she'll get my vote.
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 01:15 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Her father was a Repug lobbyist and I believe her first job was with Alfonse D'Amato. In fact, when she was announced as my new Senator, D'Amato was right behind her. It's pretty interesting that D'Amato held a fundraiser for Paterson as well as the old law firm that Gillibrand worked for gave Paterson a very large campaign donation, doncha think? All eyes were on Illinois and a blind one was turned to NY.

BTW! I just realized after I posted this, talking of blind eyes have nothing to do with Paterson's disability.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:55 PM
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35. If there is no Senate primary, I will leave the space blank and cast no vote.
Since I have no vote anyway.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:57 PM
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36. Good. Hillibrand seems to be doing a good job.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:38 PM
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37. I don't care if she's the Holy Mother Virgin herself
A primary candidate should be able to run without strong arm tactics and bullshit reasoning from our own party.
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solstice Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:39 PM
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38. This is a disgusting abuse of power.
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:42 PM
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39. So Steve Israel is not responsible for HIS actions?
It's all somebody else's fault?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:21 PM
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40. I don't think you read the OP at all.
So I don't know how to answer such a response.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:50 PM
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41. "When a party is heading too far to the right,
there are things more important than party unity."

Apparently there's no such thing as "too far to the right" for Rahmbo.

This business and the "keep Arlen Sphincter" in the Senate arm-twisting is pushing me toward Independent country.

My DNC renewal came up last week. Some poor staffer is going to get the full brunt of my anger when they open my envelope. I'm sick of this treachery.
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hardtoport Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:28 PM
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49. They've already received the full brunt of my anger.
As have the DCCC and the DSCC. I am done with donating to the Democratic party. My money goes to the ACLU, CCR, AI, and the like. Government doesn't need our money; they're already fleecing us as taxpayers. Government watchdogs need our help.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:06 PM
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50. Hear!! Hear!!!
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