Why can't we send Gitmo prisoners back to their country of origin?

[lib2DaBone]

I am not an attorney or a JAG.... so I do not understand war tribunal law.

If George Bush scooped up cab drivers off the streets of Baghdad, why can't we send those prisoners back to the government of Iraq?

I understand about law suits for false arrest.. is this why Obama is so fearful?

If they do not want to bring terrorist members to trial in the U.S... what is stopping them from having trials in Iraq?

I seem to remember a trial of some type for Saddam in Iraq? What is the big problem of which Obama speaks? The media has not a clue...

[Xipe Totec]

1. There is still the issue of redressing wrongs

So sorry; you're not as terryfying as we thought, you can leave now...

Just doesn't cut it.

[BobRossi]

8. Wrongs?

They were taken out of their county by an invading force.
Whom is wrong here? What is their crime?

[Xipe Totec]

14. Are you serious?

Their crime is NONE, as evidenced by the lack of criminal charges.

Whom is wrong? The government of the United States for mistreatment and torture of prisoners.

:eyes:

[frog92969]

9. That happens here every day.

It happened to me when I was acquitted after 10 months in jail.

[Xipe Totec]

15. Then I hope you can empathize n/t

[frog92969]

17. Yes, I can

I lost my job and home, but they've lost far more.

Most of these guys are Chainy's political prisoners (now Obama's),
I hope they can sue or press charges.

You don't get retribution in this country unless you take it,
no apologies no nothing,
they open the door and you're supposed to do grateful cartwheels through it.

[polichick]

2. "I understand about law suits for false arrest... is this why Obama is so fearful?"

I was wondering about that too.

[votingupstart]

3. i dont think the countries want some of these guys back

- i certianly would not if they are commited to violence instead of voting. i dont know but i thought i read that some of these guys countries actually revoked their citizenship so they technically dont have a country.

[sandnsea]

4. Saddam was tried for crimes against Iraqis

The people who are in Guantanamo are there because of crimes against the U.S. or other U.S. allies.

[pkdu]

5. Some will be executed ( e.g. the Chinese Uijers) n/t

[kentuck]

6. We are not paying them enough..

For a cool million a year, we can have a tail on him wherever he goes and they would report back to us every two months. Just have to find someone that needs a million a year.

[elleng]

7. SOME would go back to cause more problems,

those would be the real bad ones.

[bertman]

12. Yes, and they will use their in-depth knowledge of the U.S. Gitmo system to cause

which problems?

Maybe the bad ones will go back to fight with Al Qaeda again and our drones will blow them off the face of the planet. Along with twenty or forty innocent Pakistanis, sad to say. But at least we won't be holding them illegally like the Nazis or Commies do/did.

[elleng]

13. They would go back to their countries of origin

to do more recruiting and enlarge anti-US forces. NOT like Nazis (did they HOLD anyone illegally, or just incinerate them?) or Commies (make them crazy.) Our drones would TRY to blow them off the face of the planet, but will be slightly successful, as we all know.

[readmoreoften]

16. So you're worried about the 8 POSSIBLE guilty out of the 420 detainees?

That's what Amnesty International came up with. Eight detainees connected to Al-Qaeda/Taliban--even loosely. All others sold to us by warlords and thugs.

[elleng]

18. I'M not 'worried.'

It appears that Admin is assessing all well.

[bertman]

19. Elleng, if you consider holding someone in jail without a trial, without notification of

family or friends, without any access to due process, then the Nazis and the Communists were guilty of both in extremis. The Nazis did not just round up and exterminate Jews. They rounded up anyone who did not go along with their party line, including opposition politicians, dissidents, people who helped others flee from or escape their Gestapo thugs. The same thing was true of the Soviet-bloc Communist party (and may still be true of the current ruling party) and is still true in The so-called Peoples Republic of China.

In the case of the Nazis, the illegal detention (as well as execution) of citizens began before the extermination camps went into action. That was the bludgeon with which the Nazis beat their political opponents into submission and gained control of the government and the media.

I don't find your argument that the released detainees will go back and recruit and enlarge anti-U.S. forces any more compelling than the recruitment and enlargement of anti-U.S. forces that is occurring right now due to our attacks on Iraqi and Afghanistani and now Pakistani civilians in our quest to defeat "terrorists".

Our misguided efforts to place U.S. forces in every corner of the world enforcing our screwed-up idea of democracy is what's primarily recruiting and enlarging the ranks of our enemies.

[elleng]

20. First, its not 'my' argument that released detainees will go back and recruit,

but I think govt's conclusion/suspicion.

It seems clear to me that Prez O is doing his best to AVOID keeping people indefinitely, w/o due process.

As to our efforts to enforce our idea of democracy, you are correct, and that's been going on for quite a while. Can't say more about it at the moment, I think.


Thanks

[earthworship]

10. sounds too reasonable for me NT

[Jack Sprat]

11. Another thing.

Even if they were put in any of the 50 states, I would feel safer guarding these Islamic fundamentalists than any group of pure American prisoners. Our typical lifer convict would end your life just for the fun of it. These terror suspects won't learn what mean is until they get around our convict gangs. It sometimes takes 5 guards with flak jackets and facemasks just to extricate a guy from his cell. And then....it's still dangerous. Our prisoners try to throw their feces and urine or infect them with AIDS just for the heck of it. I think we have prison guards who would consider it a holiday to get to guard these Gitmo guys instead.

[ButterflyBlood]

21. Many would face sure torture or execution

The Chinese are the most obvious, I'm sure there's plenty of others from countries like Syria, Egypt and and Saudi Arabia where the same applies. The same type of disgusting behavior that Bush carried out. Sort of like a case I recall in some European country where a court blocked the deportation of a homosexual to Iran for that very reason.