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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:48 AM
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Hey President Obama
I love you. Nail the bastards. Fuck the fear-mongering.
Love your assertiveness - you are the fugging President.

That is all.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:51 AM
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1. He's hot, and he's right. He's angry, justifiably.
HE's setting the record straight, and, to coin a phrase, taking no prisoners!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:55 AM
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4. And I'm lovin' it
Rule of law - the courts have spoken.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:51 AM
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fickin' k and frickin' r
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:54 AM
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3. I want him to use the word
TORTURE!!!!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:14 AM
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15. He already did earlier. Here...
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:17 AM by babylonsister
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8423160

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First, I banned the use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques by the United States of America.

I know some have argued that brutal methods like water-boarding were necessary to keep us safe. I could not disagree more. As Commander-in-Chief, I see the intelligence, I bear responsibility for keeping this country safe, and I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. What’s more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. They risk the lives of our troops by making it less likely that others will surrender to them in battle, and more likely that Americans will be mistreated if they are captured. In short, they did not advance our war and counter-terrorism efforts – they undermined them, and that is why I ended them once and for all.

The arguments against these techniques did not originate from my Administration. As Senator McCain once said, torture “serves as a great propaganda tool for those who recruit people to fight against us.” And even under President Bush, there was recognition among members of his Administration – including a Secretary of State, other senior officials, and many in the military and intelligence community – that those who argued for these tactics were on the wrong side of the debate, and the wrong side of history. We must leave these methods where they belong – in the past. They are not who we are. They are not America.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:51 AM
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2. dupe
Edited on Thu May-21-09 09:52 AM by spanone
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:56 AM
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5. This is good -
he's being a law professor, going through the scenario step-by-step.

This is when he's at his best, a natural teacher.

And, just to top it off, it's a GORGEOUS day here in DC today - clear blue skies, mild temps, everything in bloom. Just perfect ...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:03 AM
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9. Freaking brilliant
Perpetrators of crimes - GObama.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:34 AM
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21. Cheney health is deteriorating quickly
He's begging here - why didn't he release all these documents to clear his name.
You are a criminal Dick Cheney. This administration is not criminalizing you.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:53 AM
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23. I am hating him more and more,
with every fucking word he croaks out.

The NERVE of this man, to come out and dare to criticize our new President!!!
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:56 AM
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6. "our moral authority was the strongest currency in the world"
Gitmo undermined it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:57 AM
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7. There's a quote for the ages,
and welcome to DU, firehorse.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:04 AM
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10. i hope this 'welcome' of yours goes better than the earlier one...
:evilgrin:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:08 AM
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13. ...
:rofl: "A" for effort? :evilgrin:
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:23 AM
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16. thanks for the welcome, discussion now on WNYC Brian Leher show
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:03 AM
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8. he's definitely on the defensive today on this issue
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:03 AM by bigtree
. . . no matter how confidently he's posturing. The speech is a week late. It should have come BEFORE the Congress acted. Now, not only politicians opinions are mostly set in stone, the public has had time to be influenced by those in opposition to the closing so that their opposition has more dynamism and momentum then the (correct) arguments Obama is making. I expect an excellent speech. It has been so far. But, We'd better be clear-eyed about the fear already generated around this decision by the opposition and work extra hard to counter that. And. there's no guarantee that we'll agree with every aspect of his policy as Democrats (like the tribunals). Obama will need to do more than just 'be the president'. He'll need to persuade effectively. I wish him the best and hope for a just outcome.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:05 AM
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11. LOL Bigtree for president!!
Bigtree bigtree, he's our man, ...

Much much smarter than Obama.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:05 AM
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12. Good post n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:10 AM
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14. Nothing is set in stone. And he's 'posturing'? What a surprise. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:37 AM
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22. I think the issue of whether to release detainees into the U.S.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:47 AM by bigtree

. . . is the most volatile part of the closing - the next, the trials.

Many Americans are still susceptible to appeals to fear. If we're to overcome those, we'll need a similar effort to drive home our views with the same, simple reasoning and positioning that these fear campaigns employ in their prevarications. The president certainly does need to exude confidence, but, that won't be sufficient (not at this point) by itself. There needs to be a follow-through from his subordinates and allies in Congress with a specific and understandable plan. Problem is, there aren't many progressive arguments which will fit easily with the middle-of-the-road approach the president indicated he wanted to employ. There's already major opposition to the tribunal plan announced. There's still the question of whether there will just be duplicate detentions outside of Gitmo - change without much substantive difference. There are still prisoners being generated from the escalated activity in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I really think there is more to this debate than worrying about debating the semantics of those who express opposition to the administration's strategy. There's plenty of room in our party to disagree on the issues surrounding his pledge to close Gitmo without worrying about how much personal respect the president gets in the process of these debates.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:24 AM
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17. I wish US ( America) a just outcome

He is saying what needs to be said and for sure Cheney would never be my Bible.

How soon some( not you of course) forget the past eight years.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED said while Democrats were silent.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:27 AM
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18. Slept in...what did I miss ? what did O Man do?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:32 AM
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19. Transcript and Video
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:34 PM
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25. Platonic kiss to you for that, thanks.!!!!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:33 AM
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20. He did a great job of laying the blame on the previous administration
Edited on Thu May-21-09 10:34 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
and pretty much eviscerated most if not all the talking points around Gitmo. How many have ALREADY been released, using Lindsy Grahams previous statements (:7)against him and making him look like a dolt, etc. All good. Especially good at dismantling the pro-torture arguments as ripping apart American values.

I will continue to disagree with him about the photos - they were under court order to be released and now he's still got garbage lying around from the past administration, but if for some reason he felt he had to hold onto them, I'll give a pass. They will come out eventually anyway.

As far as Truth Commissions - I was never an advocate of those anyway, they rarely have delivered any positive results and often seem to become white wash, cover-up commisssions. I agree that the Investigative powers of Congress already exist as does the power of the courts and the Justice Department. The question is whether any of these mechanisms will be put into action on behalf of the American people to restore their sense of trust in a country of laws and not men, we'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I think Dick Cheney has been effectively silenced, or at least I hope so.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:55 AM
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24. President Obama took on the Fuckface administration,
and he did it by naming names and calling torture torture. He said that they failed, and he spoke about what he inherited, what has to be done, how he will try to do the right thing, and how the burden of ultimate responsibility is his.

Cheney needs to be waterboarded. Soon ..........
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:43 PM
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26. Thank You! This man is brilliant, and I completely trust that he...
is going to do the right thing.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:18 PM
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30. You are 100% correct.
Obama will do the right thing.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:44 PM
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27. And release the photos and prosecute the war criminals
Or you're just another tin-pot dictator. That is all.
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esquire415 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:50 PM
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28. EXCLUSIVE: Obama's $500,000 book bonanza
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/19/obamas-500000-book-bonanza/

I did a search on DU and for some reason nobody mentioned about this article from March. I also couldn't find comments from well known liberal websites like the Huffington and Daily Kos. What is your take on this?


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Thursday, March 19, 2009

EXCLUSIVE: Obama's $500,000 book bonanza
Jim McElhatton and Christina Bellantoni, THE WASHINGTON TIMES

EXCLUSIVE:

As he empathized with recession-weary Americans, President Obama arranged in the days just before he took office to secure a $500,000 advance for a children's book project, a disclosure report shows.

The terms of the book deal were disclosed in a Senate financial disclosure report filed Tuesday.

Analysts say there don't appear to be any rules that would bar such transactions after a president takes office, but it's unclear whether an incoming or sitting president has ever signed a book deal upon entering the White House.

"I don't recall any sitting president entering into a book deal," said campaign finance lawyer Jan Baran, former general counsel to the Republican National Committee. "They all have historically done that after they leave office.

"I recall the only ones who did sign book deals while living there were first ladies, and my recollection is they gave it to charity."

Mr. Obama approved the $500,000 advance on Jan. 15. The advance is against royalties under a deal with Crown Publishing, a division of Random House. The project calls for an abridged version of his book "Dreams From My Father" for middle-school-aged children, according to the disclosure.

A White House aide said that the deal had been in the works for weeks and that the publisher will abridge the book. The aide, speaking on a condition of anonymity, said the publisher will get half of the money while Mr. Obama will sign off on the final version.

In addition, the financial disclosure showed Mr. Obama brokered an amendment to an existing book deal with Crown Publishing to put off writing a nonfiction book until after he leaves office.

The book deal came on top of nearly $2.5 million in book royalties paid to Mr. Obama last year for "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," according to the Senate report, which was filed by Robert F. Bauer, who served general counsel to Mr. Obama's presidential campaign.

The disclosure also cites income, listed as more than $1,000, paid to first lady Michelle Obama from the University of Chicago, where she had worked as vice president for community and external affairs.

Just as in 2007, public interest in Barack Obama the presidential candidate helped Barack Obama the author earn lots of money from book royalties, according to his latest financial disclosure report.

Last year, Mr. Obama reported earning $949,910 in royalties from "Dreams From My Father" and $1.5 million from "The Audacity of Hope." In 2007, he reported $3.2 million in book royalties from Random House.

Mr. Obama's books have helped boost the Obamas' income considerably in recent years, from about $1 million in 2006 to more than $4 million in 2007.

After getting permission from the Senate ethics committee in January 2005, Mr. Obama agreed to a $1.9 million advance for two nonfiction books and a children's book, of which $200,000 was to be donated to charity, according to his 2007 financial disclosure.

Ken Gross, former associate general counsel at the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and a campaign finance expert, said there doesn't appear to be any rules that would prevent Mr. Obama from signing book deals while in the White House.

"There are members of Congress who have had deals and they get paid, I don't know that he would have needed to sign that before January 20," Mr. Gross said.

Last summer during a campaign event, Mr. Obama offered voters a glimpse into how he approached writing his two previous books.

Someone at a Fairfax town hall asked whether he had words of inspiration for young writers, and he responded by talking about the importance of reading and added he'd made time to read his daughters all of the books from the Harry Potter series.

"I´ve written two books; I actually wrote them myself," he said.

On writing, he said it helped him to keep a journal.

"It forces you to ask questions of yourself, how to reconcile different attitudes and how to process different experiences," he said, and "voice your opinions in a coherent way."

"By the time I wrote the book, I had a better sense of where my life had been and why I was doing what I was doing," he said.


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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:12 PM
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29. Gee...Washington Times...ya think?
Enjoy your short stay. :hi:
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