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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:17 AM
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DISAPPEARING EVIDENCE: CIA Ghost Detainee Reported "Suicide"
Edited on Tue May-12-09 09:11 AM by leveymg
We learned yesterday of the death of at least one member of a group of CIA "ghost prisoners", captured detainees who have since simply disappeared, their current whereabouts still unknown. Bet you didn't know that there are still at least 10 CIA prisoners whose locations remain, in the best tradition of Dick Cheney, undisclosed.

Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, one of the first 9/11 operatives captured, was tortured until he told U.S. interrogators what they wanted to hear about links between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s alleged post Gulf-War chemical and germ warfare programs, plots that were later shown to be based in a third-country deception. Al-Libi has in recent weeks become the focus of attention by those seeking evidence that the Bush-Cheney White House forced false confessions to bolster its case for invading Iraq.

Al-Libi is now reported by Reuters to have committed suicide in a Libyan jail after the CIA renditioned him there.

This raises the question - was al-Libi silenced, and what has happened to other missing "ghost detainees"?

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We're Going to Change Your Brain"

Have U.S. intelligence officials been engaged in a Bush White House operation to torture prisoners to falsify details about the War on Terrorism and the 9/11 attacks?

The answer to that may be discerned in the stark words spoken to Binyam Mohamed – one of the "dirty-bomb suspects", now released in the UK -- after the CIA renditioned him to a prison in Morocco. A torturer told him, "we’re going to change your brain."

We’ve now seen government documents produced that detailed the waterboarding of the principle 9/11 planners: Abu Zubaydeh (AZ), Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM), and Rahim al-Nashiri. AZ was waterboarded 83 times in August, 2002, KSM 183 times after his capture in March 2003, and al-Nashiri twice after his capture in the Emirates and transfer to the CIA in late 2002.

Despite the use of the most extreme forms of "enhanced interrogation" against these individuals, no credible evidence of any real "ticking time-bomb" type attack on the United States was ever extracted from these "high-value" detainees. What emerged from their repeated, prolonged partial drowning was a confused mish-mash of disinformation and scrambled memories of imagined plots that those being tortured thought their interrogators wanted to hear.

In addition to al-Libi, who has now turned up dead, the roster of disappeared CIA detainees includes the following:

Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, Abdul Aziz, Abdul Rahim al-Sharqawi, Muhammed al-Darbi, Mohammed Omar Abdel-Rahman, Yassir al-Jazeeri, Adil al-Jazeeri, Tariq Mahmood, Hassan Ghul, Musaad Aruchi

Curious, have you seen anyone asking where they are, and what might have been done during their interrogations?

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Prolonged Waterboarding, Sleep Deprivation - Lost and Altered Memory

Late last week, another important document was released that showed AZ was intentionally deprived of sleep for periods as long as 11 continuous days. Sleep deprivation for longer than a week is considered life-threatening.

Another detainee that has been identified with extreme sleep deprivation is Binyam Mohamed, who was suspended by shackles, sleepless and bombarded with noise for ten days on end at the CIA's "dark prison" in Afghanistan. Jose Padilla, also an accused dirty-bomb plotter, emerged a near-vegetable after his four years of isolation, and sensory and sleep deprivation at the Navy Brig in Charleston, SC.

After reviewing the terms of his confinement detailed in Padilla’s court filings, the US Supreme Court found that the practice of holding "unlawful enemy combatants" without access to counsel and the courts violated the US Constitution. Two fellow prisoners held at the Brig under similar conditions of isolation and lack of stimuli, Yasser Hamdi and Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, suffered similar mental anguish. Their mental incapacitation became so alarming that military doctors wrote 91-pages of memos made public last October concerning the psychological torture they observed against Padilla and the two other American citizens imprisoned there.

In the last two weeks, we’ve also seen White House and Justice Department documents that authorization 11 forms of Enhanced Interrogation (aka, torture), along with a list of Congressional leaders who were advised about their use.

What hasn’t been explained was why any reasonable policy-maker would consent to the use of waterboarding and prolonged sleep deprivation to obtain information, as these techniques are well-known to cause hallucination, permanent memory loss, cognitive dysfunction, and brain damage. That is, if the point was to extract accurate informantion and preserve evidence. You know, like civilized countries that uphold the Rule of Law.

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CIA Torture Center (CTC) – Who Was Really In Charge?

In previous articles, I identified former head of the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center (CIA/CTC) Cofer Black as in immediate charge of the unit that actually carried out the rendition and torture of Abu Zubaydeh. See, "THE CIA OFFICER WHO OVERSAW TORTURE: Cofer Black", http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/337; Daily Kos: "Perjury by CIA Counterterrorism Center Director - the Blocked Memo", http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/10/105125/910

According to a recently disclosed document, we now know that after AZ was captured on March 28, 2002, he was waterboarded 83 times during the month of August, and that Zubuydah's blood-oxygen level was not monitored during waterboarding. That followed shortly after the Bybee memo dated August 1 that proclaimed the legality and "harmless" nature of waterboarding and the rest of the 11 EI techniques.

As CTC Director since 1999, Cofer Black set up and was in charge of the CIA’s renditions and interrogations programs that started scooping up and disappearing suspected al-Qaeda operatives to CIA-operated "black sites" in early 2002. Previously, there had been some 70 renditions going back to 1995, started by Black’s predecessor, Michael Scheuer. What was different about the new Bush-Cheney program was that Americans would be carrying out the torture, in some cases against other Americans. The types of torture officially permitted also diverged from previous U.S. practice to include waterboarding and sleep/sensory deprivation lasting longer than a week, along with sensory overload and deprivation (MK-ULTRA program "psychic driving"), techniques that were known to obtain unreliable information but also to cause permanent brain damage and insanity.

The articles also points out some aspects about Mr. Black’s career that included activities and contacts that contradicted the sanitized, official narrative of CIA-al Qaeda contact offered by the 9/11 Commission.

Black’s career as a CIA officer was highly unusual in that he specialized in one subject – UBL. Black was CIA Chief of Station in Khartoum at the same time bin Laden was running worldwide operations from that location in mid-1990s. Indeed, Black is the only CIA official who has publicly acknowledged having face-to-face contact with UBL after the Russians withdrew from Afghanistan in 1991.

Black recounts that the two had a confrontation in 1996, shortly before going their separate ways. Also in Sudan with bin Laden at the time was Abu Zubaydeh.

AZ was then busy coordinating al-Qaeda training of Islamic militants carrying out terrorist attacks on the Russians in Chechnya and Bosnia. As I pointed out after a conversation here at DU with Paul Thompson, AZ and a Syrian named Louai al-Sakka ran camps in Afghanistan, Turkey and Pakistan with the aid of several intelligence services in the region. The U.S. still officially denies any involvement in support of those operations, a claim that is widely disputed around the world. In statements through a lawyer, Sakka says that he was a double-agent working for Syrian intellignce and the CIA before he was captured by Turkey, where he is being held. He also claims that he passed a message to the CIA warning of the 9/11 attack, but that was ignored. The Times of London reported that Paul Thompson uncovered evidence that indicates that Tenet received Sakka's warning before 9/11. See, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2936761.ece

Something else that some in the CIA might not want Americans to know is that Abu Zubaydeh had a hand in training six of the principal 9/11 hijackers, including Nawaf al-Hazmi, who led the Flt. 77 hijacking that slammed into the Pentagon. Al-Hazmi and some of the others, including Binyam Mohamed, were originally recruited and trained by AZ to fight the Russians in Chechnya. Starting to see a pattern here?

Cofer Black was in charge of the CTC on January 15, 2000, when al-Hazmi along with Khalid al-Midhar, entered the U.S. after attending a week-long planning summit in Kuala Lumpur that was monitored by the CIA and "a half dozen allied agencies", as George Tenet testified before the Joint Intelligence Committee in 2002.

The FBI has long accused the CIA of withholding crucial evidence about the pair and obstructing Bureau efforts to locate and track al-Qaeda cells known to be inside the U.S. before 9/11. In early 2000, a series of cables were drafted by FBI liaison persons posted at CTC that would have alerted the Bureau to the presence of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, but each of those cables was withheld at the order of the CTC Assistant Director. However, both the CIA and FBI Directors were repeatedly briefed about the Kuala Lumpur summit - it was handled at the top of both agencies as an extremely important event.

The CTC Assistant Director at the time has been alternately identified in official documents as "Richard", "Rich B", and as "James" in the FBI OIG’s report. We will call him Richard, the name he is referred to in the 9/11 Commission report. Regardless, it's certain that Cofer Black was Director and operational head of CTC at the time the principal 9/11 hijackers were allowed into the U.S., and Richard was his deputy. Richard replaced Michael Scheuer as operations chief of Alec Station, the CIA’s bin Laden unit within CTC at Tyson’s Corner, VA as part of a 1999 shakeup of the unit ordered by George Tenet. Cofer Black and Richard, in particular, were considered to be Tenet proteges.

While Director Louis Freeh was fully briefed, those FBI draft cables never reached John O’Neill, the FBI's top al-Qaeda hunter, head of the FBI National Security Unit in New York. O'Neill had a series of furious run-ins with Black and his deputy from 1999 until the day he died at the World Trade Center shortly after his forced FBI resignation.

Al-Hazmi and al-Midhar's identities as al-Qaeda operatives were well known to Cofer Black and Richard, and a number of others in intelligence agencies around the world. U.S. and British intelligence has been monitoring al-Midhar’s communications and movements since the mid-1990s, when British Intelligence and the NSA started monitoring a communications center in Yemen run by al-Midhar’s father-in-law. Despite being designated international terrorists, the pair traveled internationally and inside the U.S. with such apparent ease that Author Joe Trento concludes Al-Hazmi and al-Midhar were handled by the CIA as double-agents working for Saudi intelligence. In other words, they were being protected from U.S. law enforcement, and they knew it.

Al-Midhar was known to the CIA to have a valid US visa, information the FBI claims wasn’t passed on to Bureau investigators until August 2001. Al-Midhar left the US after a few months without interference and freely traveled around the world on al-Qaeda business, renewed his visa (which shouldn't have happened), and taking a key role organizing the Cole bombing and recruiting the dozen or so "muscle hijackers" in Saudi Arabia, returning in the months before 9/11.

In late 1999, Al-Hazmi and al-Midhar were dispatched to the Malaysia planning session by Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM), whose identity as a terrorist had been known to various intelligence services for an even longer period, since the 1993 WTC bombing. KSM received the most waterboarding sessions. The third al-Qaeda detainee waterboarded, al Nashiri, is credited as the chief planner of the USS Cole attack. He was also observed in attendance at the early January planning session in Malaysia, as was Ramzi bin al-Sheibh, Mohamed Atta’s roommate in Hamburg. Al-Shibh actually traveled back to Hamburg and returned to the conference - had anyone bothered to track him, he would have led the CIA directly to Atta. Bin al Shibh is reported to also have had a brief acquaintance with the waterboard.

So, who was in charge of the CIA unit that carried out torture of the 9/11 detainees? George Tenet dug in as CIA Director until his resignation with the Presidential Medal of Freedom on June 4, 2004. Many around him left at about this time. Deputy Director John McLaughlin announced his departure the next day. James Pavitt, head of CIA Operations, retired in August 2004.

The Washington Post announced Black’s reassignment on May 17, 2002. Black immediately moved to a largely ceremonial post at the State Dept. with Ambassadorial rank – and diplomatic immunity -- as head of counter-terrorism before joining Blackwater, the principal Iraq security contractor with the Department. Richard dropped off the screen with Black. The only hint as to Black’s replacement is contained in an article about the present difficulties of the Obama Administration dealing with the legacy of torture by John Sifton. Sifton advises:

Investigations should focus also on high-level executive officers in the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center (CTC) who are still at the agency, for example, G— —, a former deputy to Jose Rodriquez, the chief of CTC back in 2002-2004 and who now enjoys a prestigious CIA station-chief posting in Europe. (I can’t reveal her name or posting; it remains covert. It should also be noted that the former CTC chief of operations also remains at the agency.)


As we’ve recently learned, Abu Zubaydeh was waterboarded 83 times in August, 2002. Reportedly, no effort was made to monitor his blood oxygen levels during his sessions, resulting in black-outs, cessation of respiration, and near-death. Obviously, preserving his testimony for later legal proceedings was not the point, particularly after Mr. Rodriguez ordered the tapes of his and KSM's interrogations destroyed. KSM was captured the following March, and he suffered 183 partial drownings during the month of April, 2003.

Whoever was in charge of CTC after Black, inherited a fully developed renditions and torture mechanism and a team that was ready to put many unpleasant memories behind them.

We really should now demand to find out what happened to the others who were disappeared.

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Available in Orange with links: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/11/730314/-Reuters:-Disappeared-CIA-Ghost-Detainee-Reported-Suicide

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:23 AM
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1. K&R
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:27 AM
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2. RE: Abu Zubaydeh, I was under the impression
all detainees were being monitored by psychologists constantly. That didn't include physical monitoring?

Also, all those missing detainees, dead men tell no tales. That's my contribution to connecting the dots. We offed them so they couldn't talk.

And recommend.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:33 AM
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3. It really is telling that they did not monitor Zubaydeh's blood-oxygen levels
That "reform" was put in place following a review of waterboarding procedures, before they waterboarded KSM the following April.

Some medical "supervision" that was.
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:35 AM
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4. "ghost prisoners" just another example of a violation of the Geneva Convention by the US, nt
Edited on Tue May-12-09 08:36 AM by ThirdWorldJohn
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:36 AM
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5. K&R
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:43 AM
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6. it's part of that "we create our own reality" mindset.
remember that? "we're an empire now."
"we'll change your brain."
"How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?"
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:59 AM
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7. if obama really gave a shit, we'd have RETRIEVED ALL detainees from their outsourced-torturers
IMMEIDATELY.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:23 AM
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9. Absolutely. He would have closed down the CIA secret prisons
that shouldn't exist anyway under international law. He would have immediately ordered all detainees turned over to legal custody to be held, put on trial, and treated as required by law. And if "as required by law" meant that they go free then he would have set them free.

No more renditions/torture, or secret prisons, or indefinitely incarceration, or ignored rights. The fact that all of these things could have ended immediately but continue under Obama shows that he isn't serious about human rights or the rule of law. He has shown himself to be just a politician, and not an agent of "Change."

All the people who keep saying "give him more time," how much time does he need to sign an executive orders? How long does it take for him to demand that laws will be obeyed?

We're not talking about campaigns to pass new laws which take a lot of time. We're talking about how he runs the executive branch, his own branch of government. Any executive can implement new policies and get them the implementation started quickly. If Obama couldn't implement new policies in the executive branch and in the military it's because he didn't bother.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:10 AM
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33. With this president
it all depends on what is politically expedient.

I guess it explains all those "present" votes.

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:02 AM
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11. That Part of the Government Does Not Recognize Obama's Authority Over It
They would not obey any such order.

The CIA, the DEA, and the NSA do not answer to the President when he is a Democrat.
In my lifetime, they never have.

We have already seen the DEA openly countermanding Obama's orders to continue
busting medical marijuana dispensaries.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:55 AM
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14. It's more than that. Bob Gates. Recruited by CIA in 1966.
Edited on Tue May-12-09 11:44 AM by EFerrari
He could get those people "found" if he wanted them.

Also, McCrystal, the new Afghanistan commander. Also involved in torture and secret prisons. He'd know how to get these people "found", too.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5638765

These people are not lost. They are being hidden.

/oops
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:14 AM
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17. What? Any excuse to bash Obama?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:17 AM
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8. K&R
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:59 AM
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10. According to AI, there may be as many be three dozen more CIA ghost detainees:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:19 AM
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12. Amy reported "dozens" about two weeks ago.
Question: does that last blue box say Rodriguez was CTC chief 2002-2004?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:56 AM
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15. According to his Wiki bio, Rodriguez indeed succeeded Black as CTC Chief.
Edited on Tue May-12-09 11:47 AM by leveymg
I was under the mistaken impression that Rodriguez was then already at a higher management level, but this is what Wiki says:

In May 2002, Rodriguez was promoted to the post of Director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center (CTC).

SNIP

DDO appointment
On November 16, 2004, Rodriguez succeeded Stephen Kappes to become the Deputy Director for Operations.<7> Rodriguez continues in his capacity as the head of CIA clandestine operations, now as Director of the National Clandestine Service. In this expanded role, Rodriguez is the chief of all human intelligence gathering (HUMINT) conducted by the U.S. government, including outside agencies. On February 7, 2006, Rodriguez fired Robert Grenier, his successor as Director of the CIA Counterterrorism Center, for not being "aggressive" enough in combating terrorism.<8>


Retirement
On August 8, 2007, the Associated Press reported on Jose Rodriguez's upcoming retirement. The article mentions his Wikipedia entry having been made prior to the "decloaking" of his identity and that the entry contains "inaccuracies." He will retire on September 30, 2007 and will be replaced by Michael Sulick.


NOTE: the Wiki entry for CTC is silent about anything after Black left. Someone might want to go in and fill in that gaping hole.

The implications of this would be pretty dire for Rodriguez if there were ever any prosecutions -- if this is accurate, he was in direct command of CTC May 2002 through November 2004 when the worst abuses occurred, and later issued the order to destroy the videos of the waterboard interrogations before he was, in turn, fired from the Agency.

NOTE 2: I have the impression that Rodriguez has been close to Black for a long time, and that they are part of a faction that, at the very least, had some serious lapses of judgement, a charge that was leveled against Rodriguez for his own conduct in Latin America in the mid to late 1990s. By the way, Black was temporarily reposted to that region after he left Sudan in 1996, before he was hired by Tenet to head CTC in 1999. Looks like Black and Rodriguez are part of the same self-promoting-self-protecting circle within former DoO.

NOTE 3: Grenier was COS in Islamabad before he headed the Iraq Issues Task Force at the same time Plame was also working at the IITF during the run-up to the invasion. The IITF pushed-back against the phony Cheney-Rumsfeld-Feith Iraq and Iran WMD fabrications. Grenier offered key trial testimony in the 2007 Plame Case that brought down Scooter Libby. It may be significant that Rodriguez fired Grenier for "lack of aggression" in 2006. The guy seems to be both a Cheney enforcer and a cover-up specialist - just like Scooter.

Thanks for pointing that out! Will dig and report further.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:11 AM
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16. Thank you! Jose Rodriquez keeps sort of disappearing from
the narrative. When I first read about him, he sounded like some low level lawyer in a basement office or something.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:35 AM
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18. See Notes 2 and 3, immediately above.
Edited on Tue May-12-09 11:35 AM by leveymg
Black and Rodriguez are a co-mingled thread that extends from Bin Laden to 9/11 to the Plame Case (Iraq and Iran WMD deception) to the CIA Torture Center. Perhaps, the dirtiest stand within the Agency.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:44 AM
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19. You know, it would be interesting to go back and watch Black's
testimony before the 9/11 Commission, knowing what we know about him now. Ditto for the Office of Special plans guys like Cambone and Feith as well as people like Gen. Meyers at the Taguba hearings. I've contacted CSPAN for a copy of the latter but, they've been slow about responding.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:51 AM
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20. I'll look around and see if I can find a transcript.
I do know that he perjured himself. An article about that is linked in the OP. There are the most amazing (and terrifying) connections between these guys and all the major intelligence scandals of the last two decades. Name it, and they were there.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:57 AM
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21. I know. There must be transcripts but
I want to see the actual hearings to watch their body language, etc., but also to scope out who was sitting where. Remember the story, last week or so, that the administration put minders in the audience to "manage" the 9/11 witnesses?

I particularly remember during the Taguba hearings that there was a lot of silent looks exchanged. Well, they were trying to hide a global torture program, no pressure there.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:14 PM
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22. Cofer Black's 9/11 Commission testimony transcript:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_hr/black_statement.pdf

I wasn't able to find video of it, though.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:18 PM
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23. Thanks, bleever! Somebody taped it. It'll turn up.
:hi:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:21 AM
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13. K&R
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 01:51 PM
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24. Cheney's Mercenary Army XE "perception management" n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:24 PM
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25. Kick
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:31 PM
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26. The neoons only want power...
Edited on Tue May-12-09 04:32 PM by CoffeeCat
...so they can do these sorts of sick, perverse things.

Power gives them the freedom to abuse.

These people are nothing but abusers. If not for their family connections and old money--they'd
be slapping around their wife and sexually abusing their kids in some trailer park.

Aren't we so lucky as a nation, that these degenerates have infiltrated the highest echelons of our government?
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 05:06 PM
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27. If they're missing and nobody knows it, (thanks corporate media) it's
like if a tree falls in the forest and less than two people hear it, did it make a sound? Excellent OP. Excellent. :thumbsup:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:55 PM
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28. K&R < excellent reporting!!!!!!! Thank you leveymg!! all of this makes me sick! n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:37 PM
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29. K&R
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:07 PM
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30. kick
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:46 AM
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31. Looks interesting.
I'll come back to it when I have more time.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:49 AM
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32. K&R
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:11 AM
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34. Great work leveymg
Thanks!

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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 06:14 AM
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35. morning K&R... nt
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:18 PM
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36. afternoon kick
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