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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 06:44 PM
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CIA waterboarding experts faked their resumés
More information is coming out about the two psychologists who designed the US CIA interrigation program, some of which has already been detailed on DU.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1356590

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x300924




According to current and former government officials, the CIA's secret waterboarding program was designed and assured to be safe by two well-paid psychologists now working out of an unmarked office building in Spokane, Washington.
Bruce Jessen and Jim Mitchell, former military officers, together founded Mitchell Jessen and Associates.


The new documents show the CIA later came to learn that the two psychologists' waterboarding "expertise" was probably "misrepresented" and thus, there was no reason to believe it was "medically safe" or effective. The waterboarding used on al Qaeda detainees was far more intense than the brief sessions used on U.S. military personnel in the training classes.
"The use of these tactics tends to increase resistance on the part of the detainee to cooperating with us. So they have the exact opposite effect of what you want," said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich).

Former U.S. officials say the two men were essentially the architects of the CIA's 10-step interrogation plan that culminated in waterboarding.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7471217&page=1

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:15 PM
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1. well now isn't that special
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:40 PM
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2. Staring out with a decision, then finding anyone that agrees with it and
pointing to them as an expert, legal, medical, constitutional, whatever. Great tactic.

Sounds like creation science.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:46 PM
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3. K & R. steven, you've really been finding some interesting stuff.
eom
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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:23 AM
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4. Of course they did; they couldn't possibly have had any experience
:sarcasm:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:52 PM
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5. hey get back up there
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:53 PM
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6. Torturers just want to torture.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:01 PM
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9. Torturers just want to have fun
Edited on Fri May-01-09 01:02 PM by seemslikeadream
and fake their resumes





http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=7471217&page=1

The CIA's $1,000 a Day Specialists on Waterboarding, Interrogations
The New Focus on Two Retired Military Psychologists Called the 'Architects' of the CIA's Techniques
By BRIAN ROSS, MATTHEW COLE, and JOSEPH RHEE
April 30, 2009
As the secrets about the CIA's interrogation techniques continue to come out, there's new information about the frequency and severity of their use, contradicting an 2007 ABC News report, and a new focus on two private contractors who were apparently directing the brutal sessions that President Obama calls torture.

Psychologists Bruce Jessen, left, and Jim Mitchell shaped the CIA's interrogation program of al Qaeda detainees, including Abu Zubaydah. Both refused to speak to ABC News citing confidentiality agreements with the U.S. government.

According to current and former government officials, the CIA's secret waterboarding program was designed and assured to be safe by two well-paid psychologists now working out of an unmarked office building in Spokane, Washington.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:55 PM
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7. K&R to highlight the danger of privatizing intelligence services !
Disgusting example of the Bush Gang's Heck of a Job Privatization.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:57 PM
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8. And responsibility continues to roll downhill.
I certainly hope the focus does not become an attempt to blame the architects for this evil house Bush & Co had built.

These two dipwad sadists need to be held responsible for their role, but it sure as hell doesn't mitigate the administration's culpability.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 05:59 PM
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10. "Psychologists", eh? Wonder if their licensing board has said anything about this?
State License Boards, and there are National Associations.
If we had any serious journalists, the boards would have been quiried now about license status of these idjits.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:03 PM
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11. how does one become an expert at an illegal activity?
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