Gluten free product list...in other words,

[drthais]

just don't bother to go shopping
I dare you to read labels
and put much of anything into the shopping cart(!)

http://www.gfcfdiet.com/unacceptable.htm

[BrklynLiberal]

1. O-MI-GAWD!!!

[greenbriar]

2. Hubby is allergic to wheat and so we follow the gluten free menu

it is hard




you would be suprised at what has wheat/gluten in it

[unsavedtrash]

38. My SO is allergic too. Talk about adventures in shopping!

Plus we have to occasionally double check items that we thought were safe as the companies sometimes change to adding wheat/gluten. It is hard.

[Maraya1969]

42. Have you ever tried Spelt or Quinona or Rice bread or Millet bread?

Plus there are a whole bunch more in the health food stores.

I was severely allergic to wheat for a while and stayed off completely for a couple years. He can be tested again and sometimes the allergies go away.....only to be replaced by what you are eating the most of now.

Actually I am still allergic, (but not as much since I stayed off for so long) so I buy organic corn flacks and stuff like that for cereal and I still get the bread sometimes.

It's not like regular bread but it is very filling. I make toast.

[Catherine Vincent]

3. There nothing left to eat but fruit and veggies.

[Holly_Hobby]

5. And organic, unenhanced meat. Eggs too.

Don't buy your meat from a grocery store, buy it at a butcher. Ask lots of questions. Buy eggs locally.

It almost killed me to give up pizza...it's like an addiction. I was a carb addict.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. You mean a butcher at the meat market right?

And eggs locally like at a farmer's market?

[Maraya1969]

14. You can get eggs at the grocery store that are organic and free roaming

You will be stunned at how think the egg shell is and how big and yellow the yolk is compared to those white things in the styrofoam cartons.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

28. Sounds good but wouldn't they make a mess in the fridge?

Not to mention if they got out. I would hate to step on a free-roaming egg.

[arcos]

35. LOL!!!! nt

[Maraya1969]

41. AHHHHHHHHHHHH Kind of like those bonless chickens who have such

a hard time standing up.

[candice]

29. Your farmer's market may have real eggs...

produced by chickens who are exposed to sunlight, walk on the ground, eat food that is safe to be added to the food chain.

When chickens are part of industry farming, stacked on top of one another, have their beaks snipped...live without sunlight and fresh air, the nutritional value (and sanitation) are lacking. It's not a pretty picture.

[Holly_Hobby]

15. Yes and yes.

Preferrably, a butcher shop that's locally owned. A farmer's market is perfect for eggs. Just be sure to ask if they're part of a corporation or not. Most are not.

Also, the ethnic markets sell lots a wholesome food. They also sell some not so wholesome food. I'm not going to elaborate so I don't offend anyone. You just need to ask if you have questions, and they're very helpful.

[TommyO]

40. It depends on your grocery store

Many grocery chains offer high-quality organically raised, anti-biotic free meats, some even locally raised.

[PhilipShore]

4. That list makes it clear -- why -- this has not been MSM news n/t

[ChrisCat]

6. This list also includes casein free items, which you wouldn't have to avoid.

If you are wanting to avoid gluten, you can still have most dairy items, with the exception of some blue cheeses, I think. Casein is a protein in dairy that some people with a gluten sensitivity are also sensitive to.

[Matariki]

7. Wheat gluten isn't in and of itself the problem

I've eaten Seiten for years - a meat alternative made from wheat gluten and purchased at my local health food store. Delicious and healthy. At least I thought so.

Has it been proven for sure that the melamine is coming from the wheat gluten? It is also found in particle board and plastics. Is it possible that someone has been using some very cheap filler in pet food? And anyway melamine isn't inherently found in wheat gluten, just maybe wheat grown with a certain fertilizer that is used in China.

Correct me if i'm wrong on any of this please.

[Jcrowley]

10. Gluten is heavy

even in the best of conditions. Wheat is an inferior grain even when grown organically.

Eating whole healthy chemical-free local foods (veggie and meat) is the only answer and this is not an option for most.

Look for Spelt and sprouted when you can.

[HughMoran]

18. "heavy" and "inferior"

..are not adjectives that carry a lot of weight with me.

Do you have any factual basis for your post (other than your above opinion?)

If the gluten is poisoned with melamine or if you are alergic to it, that's one thing...

[Jcrowley]

20. The best thing

is to refute and do your own research. The best research is through experience.

Until then go here:

http://en.allexperts.com/e/w/wh/wheat.htm

http://www.purityfoods.com/CookingResources/NutritionalInformation/tabid/71/ctl/Edit/mid/382/CookingResources/NutritionalInformation/DetailedSpeltFlourNutritionInformation/tabid/125/Default.aspx

http://www.osullivansbakery.ie/spelt-bread-page.html

http://arvaflourmills.com/Facts.htm

http://www.shopbydiet.com/forums/view.php?bn=shopbydiet_glutenfree&key=1092964262&site=shopbydiet

[gravity]

21. That's just marketing not research

Research comes from scientific papers, not advertisements.

[Matariki]

26. While all that you are saying may be true - or not

it doesn't have anything to do with the melamine in the pet food which is the source of the problem.

[Shallah Kali]

30. spelt is wheat. so is kamut. a bit more nutritious but still wheat

I know this since I have celiac and must avoid 'em all like the plague.

[Morgana LaFey]

47. There are other whole grains and cereals --

quina, amaranth, millet, oats, barley, rye.

Chickpea (garbanzo) flour, rice flour, even nut meals or flours (almond flour), and of course blends.

[PhilipShore]

11. More than 30 million hectares (74,131,614 acres) of farmland were applied with...rat poison...

POISONED PET FOOD:
HOLD THE MSG PLEASE!
By: Daniel Sargis

http://www.etherzone.com/2007/sarg033007.shtml">Link

From the China Daily News, we are told that, “Rats across China eat 50 billion kilograms of grain annually, equivalent to the consumption of 100 million people.”

Duh...ipso facto, if you eat or slaughter all of the cats, the rats run wild.

In response to this rodent infestation, China’s People’s Daily reported that, “In the past two years, more than 30 million hectares (74,131,614 acres) of farmland were applied with...rat poison, helping save 7 billion kilograms of grain.”


All of these fancy pet food brands contract production out to the lowest bidder. That bidder, in turn, contracts with the lowest cost supplier which, in this case, happens to be from China.

[bananas]

13. "There was a sizable amount of melamine. You could see crystals in the wheat gluten,"

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070331/D8O7CG6O0.html
<snip>
They've also found the chemical, in apparently raw form in concentrations as high as 6.6 percent, in wheat gluten used as ingredient of the recalled cat and dog foods, said Stephen Sundlof, the FDA's chief veterinarian.
"There was a sizable amount of melamine. You could see crystals in the wheat gluten," Sundlof told The Associated Press.
<snip>

[Lasher]

36. You are correct. Wheat gluten = wheat - starch

It's just that simple. The problem is the contaminants.

[nolabels]

9. I drink my coffee black, thank you

I also get that many things like local produce and home gardening might come back in fashion real quick.


Fucking money grubin corporate-fascist-pigs :puke:

[Buzz Clik]

12. Is this more of the dog food/cat food deal?

Folks, this isn't a matter of organic food or not. The contaminant is rat poison, and rat poison isn't a part of any farmer's typical approach to growing, harvesting, or preserving grain. Certainly not in the US. That they are doing this in China boggles the mind.

[truedelphi]

25. But it is a matter of eating organic food

Because of NAFTA and other free trade "solutions" the friendly can of Campbell's soup could indeed contain the wheat gluten from China that was poisoned.

Gluten is used as a thickener in so many processsed foods - the only way you can feel safe is if you are buying local foods, and organic foods.

[lala_rawraw]

16. this is why i buy local

organic, farmer's market type of food. this is exactly why. and everyone company selling this poison requires our class action attention

[morningglory]

17. We buy our whole grain cereal from Red Mills. We also buy wheat gluten.

Wonder if the import it from China...

[gravity]

19. Gluten is safe

If you don't want to eat it, that's fine, but it's not unhealthy.

[JanusAscending]

22. Unless you are allergic to it!!!!

n/t

[AZBlue]

23. It's actually not that dire.

Celiac's Disease (intolerance to gluten and wheat) is fairly common - as many as 3 million Americans suffer from it. In the past couple of years it has become a more well-known disease and more and more foods, restaurants and bakeries are offering gluten-free options. It just takes a little looking around to find it. I have a co-worker with Celiac's and she eats everything I do, just maybe different brands.

[kestrel91316]

24. Easy to avoid gluten as an ingredient deliberately put into food:

COOK FROM SCRATCH.

About the only "food additives" I put in MY cooking are the usual suspects: salt, baking soda, baking powder, cornstarch, etc.

I don't have or use any recipes that call for wheat gluten. And nobody has shown plain ol' wheat flour to be an issue here. Our flour in the US is probably all US or Canadian source.

This is what happens when our lives revolve around highly processed foods MADE IN FACTORIES. We lose virtually all control over what goes into our bodies.

[SoCalDem]

31. Amen, sister.. I have not bought "packaged" foods for ages.

I used to make my own pancake mix, cake mixes, yeast bread mixes etc.

HP Make-a-Mix Cookbooks were a godsend..

My boys even got hommade "babyfood".. whatever we were eating, got "mushed up" with a bit of water , in my LeMachine.. (We're talking 1973-80..timeframe-wise)

We had a garden & bought beef & chicken from a local rancher.. I made my own sausage..

no allergies in my kids, and they were rarely sick.

and y'know what? It's cheaper and yes EASIER to cook from scratch, once you get the hang of it..

Want "old" recipes? Go to estate sales. I have a cookbook that was my Grandmother's and I think the print date on it is 1926 ..

Food is FOOD.. If it's canned, look for water, salt..that's IT.

if it;s frozen, ..just the "whatever it is"..no "sauces/cheeses/gravies"

Make your OWN sloppy joes, salad dressings...even mayonnaise only takes a minute to make..

Homemade puddings are fantastic, but if you've only ever had the Jello instant crap, you don't know what you are missing..

I am not bragging, but I can make an entire meal and have it on the table in less than 20 minutes.. using NO mixes..

I feel so sorry for a whiole generation who never learned to cook real food..

It;s not too late though.. just dive in.. It's not hard..

the only tip I'll give, is this.

look at the recipe and make sure you have all the ingredients BEFORE you start :)

[Shallah Kali]

33. scratch cooking isn't a guarentee - too many things cross contaiminated

I have celiac and I have gotten sicker than a dog from things processed in the same factory as a gluten containing substance from plain nuts to plain old rice. flour is so insidious that even though I do nothing but cook my own food with nothing prepackaged - not even spice blends - I still have occasional problems.

[kestrel91316]

44. Wheat gluten from China isn't going to mysteriously cross-contaminate

any of my food ingredients. I am confident of that.

[Morgana LaFey]

48. Well, good, but that's not what she said, or even hinted at.

Not even the same subject.

[Bluebear]

27. For this I quit smoking??

And what I really needed to fear was lo mein? :(

[DemBones DemBones]

32. Trouble is that this is a gluten-free and casein-free list,

for those allergic to wheat gluten and to casein.

Have I missed something about casein being contaminated?

If not, unless you're allergic to casein, a lot of those products are fine.

Cheese and all dairy products are listed as unacceptable for people allergic to casein, a milk protein. They don't contain wheat gluten.

Look up "celiac disease" and you'll get links to sites about celiac disease (duh!) which is an extreme allergy to wheat gluten. Those sites have lists of foods to avoid, though you still really have to read labels on everything. At least a list gives you a clue about a lot of things to avoid.

[Lorien]

34. Damn

And I thought I was eating a fairly "pure" diet!

[Lasher]

37. Stop all wheat gluten inports from China now

With due respect to those who have wheat allergies, this is probably all that's needed to address our concerns. We could easily process all the gluten here if we weren't so obsessed with slave labor.

[earth mom]

39. Here's some good companies that you can order Gluten free products from:

Kinnikinnick
http://www.kinnikinnick.com/

Bobs Red Mill
http://www.bobsredmill.com/

Allergy Grocer formerly Miss Robens
http://www.missroben.com/

[Shallah Kali]

46. You can get many GF foods in the health food sections of major grocery stores

Save $ on shipping and avoid buying a large supply of things you might not care for. IMO Tinkyada is the best GF pasta I have tried and Gillian's French Rolls are the most breadlike thing. I stopped looking because it is too expensive to buy GF things only to find out that IMO they were expensive blandness or expensive yuk.

[Pokey Anderson]

43. More on gluten. And general sensitivity to it.

People who are sensitive to gluten may exhibit a raft of nonspecific symptoms (see below), and probably lots of Americans ARE sensitive to it, and never figured out that that was causing it.

Happened to me! I have a relative who has celiac disease (which means she cannot tolerate ANY gluten), and finally thought, hmmmm, what if I inherited that tendency? So, I deleted MOST gluten from my diet, and lots of ornery nagging symptoms cleared up.

Of course, if you happen to be eating wheat gluten that has melamine, a plastic, in it, that's a NUTHER whole story.

What is Gluten?

"Gluten" is the general term for a mixture of protein fragments found in common cereal grains. Wheat (including semolina, durum, spelt, triticale, and kamut) is the only grain considered to contain true gluten. However, other protein fragments thought to be toxic to celiacs occur in rye, barley, and oats. Minute amounts of any of these protein fragments can cause intestinal damage in people with celiac disease.

If you want to avoid gluten, check out these brands, and read the labels:

Ancient Quinoa Harvest
Amy's
Blue Diamond Crackers
Gluten Free Foods Limited
Marlene's Mixes
Mrs. Leepers Gluten Free Pasta
Natural Noodles
Pamela's Products
Birkett Mills - gluten free buckwheat

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Whole Foods
They say they have lists of gluten-free products at local stores. Some external links are on this page if you're interested in celiac disease, too: http://wholefoodsmarket.com/specialdiets/gluten-free/index.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Celiac disease

The American Medical Assn - Family Medical Guide, Celiac disease

p. 731: Celiac disease is an allergy that affects the small intestine. In this disorder, when gluten (a protein found in most grains) come in contact with the small intestine, the membrane that lines the intestine loses its usual texture and becomes smooth. As a result, the intestine is less able to absorb nutrients. The disease is usually diagnosed in infancy or early childhood.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Some possible symptoms of celiac disease.

Symptoms of Celiac Disease may include Iron-deficiency anemia, abdominal cramping or bloating, gastrointestinal problems, weakness, depression, difficulty gaining weight, night blindness, etc.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So, while most of you don't likely have a gluten intolerance, while the attention is on gluten, it might be worthwhile to go off gluten for a few weeks and see if your body thanks you.

[Shallah Kali]

45. If you suspect you have Celiac Disease or other food disorder please get tested -

you might have more than one food issue. I have both Celiac Disease and milk allergy so avoiding one still leaves me with similar digestive symptoms. Only by avoiding both is my body happy. Also if you go gluten free it can throw off the test results later according to what I have read. For best results in fact doctors usually advice people to eat good amounts of the suspect food to ensure enough antibodies are in the blood to detect. Now if you have celiac you don't need to eat wheat because you also react to barley gluten and rye gluten. you may also react to oats because it is usually contaminated by wheat during processing and transport.

BTW you can be overweight and have celiac. I thought there was no way I could have it because everything I read said people loose weight with it but I am one of those who go against the grain. It is estimated that 1 in 133 people in the US have celiac. More info here:

Celiac Disease Foundation
http://www.celiac.org/

Celiac Disease
http://www.celiac.com/

Celiac Disease http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

Celiac Disease mayo clinic http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/DS00319

CNN interview of Celiac Disease Specalist - very good!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-672082532935194736

transcript here:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/13/cnr.02.html