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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:42 PM
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Steven Green's trial... Not disupting rape/murders but "Context". Bragged it was "awesome"
"Context" does not excuse this atrocity. Seems like they are just trying to get him not the death penalty here. One of Abeer's brothers testified yesterday. I want his superiors held responsible also. No excuses.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iYeOUInDxFuT4T8CsYG9-_KfQ9pgD97R4QE01
An ex-soldier charged with raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and slaying her family set the girl's body ablaze after shooting her several times, prosecutors said Monday during opening statements at his federal trial.

Steven Dale Green, 23, of Midland, Texas, faces more than a dozen charges, including sexual assault and four counts of murder, stemming from the March 2006 attack in Iraq's so-called "Triangle of Death." After he shot the girl in the face several times, Green used kerosene to set fire to her body, Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Skaret said. "They left behind the carnage of all carnage," Skaret said of Green and other soldiers accused in the March 12, 2006, attack.

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Later Monday, jurors heard two relatives testify about the carnage inside the victims' home. They also were shown photographs of the teen's burned body.

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Later, Green talked about the killings to superior officers, other soldiers and even civilian friends, Skaret said. In Green's defense, attorney Patrick Bouldin painted a picture of young soldiers in harsh wartime conditions, lacking leadership and receiving little help from the Army to deal with the loss of friends. He said Green lost five colleagues in combat prior to the attack. A federal public defender, Bouldin showed jurors a videotape of Green speaking at a memorial service for two slain sergeants. He said soldiers had lost so many friends and leaders they could no longer perform their duties.

"Context," Bouldin said. "You've got to understand the context."...



There has been arguments that he should be tried NOT in a civilian court, here is why...
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090426/NEWS01/904260415/1008/NEWS01/Prosecutors+want+arguments+barred+in+ex-soldier+s+trial
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But lawyers for Green, who goes on trial tomorrow in Paducah, said the jury should know that he would have faced lesser sentences in a court-martial and that he would have been eligible for parole....


RIP Abeer, Hadeel, Fakhria, Qaseem
http://uk.reuters.com/article/gc05/idUKTRE53R07N20090428
A former U.S. soldier on trial in the gang rape of an Iraqi girl and the murder of her and her family in the war zone in 2006 was caught in a "perfect storm of insanity," his lawyer told a jury on Monday.

But government prosecutors in the same courtroom said former Private 1st Class Steven Green, alleged ringleader of the slayings, was only interested in killing Iraqis "nonstop" and bragged during a barbecue celebration later that what he had done was "awesome."
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After the crime, Skaret said, the men celebrated with a barbecue, and Green was said to have commented "that was awesome." He also told an Army investigator the day after, "I did that. I killed them," Skaret said.

The family was chosen because the soldiers viewed them as an easy target, prosecutors have said....



http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090427/NEWS01/904280301/1008/Trial+begins+in+former+soldier+s+murder+trial
A federal prosecutor today told a jury that the government will prove that former soldier Steven Green raped a 14-year-old girl and then murdered her and her family “not in the fog of war, but in cold blood.”

In an opening statement in a trial that is expected to last three to five weeks, Justice Department lawyer Brian Skaret said the government will present at least five witnesses who say Green bragged about the crimes, including one who says Green told his fellow soldiers that it was “awesome.”

In his hour-long opening remarks, Green’ s co-counsel didn’t dispute his role in the crimes or that they were a “horrible tragedy” for the family of Abeer Al-Janabi, the girl who was raped and shot in the face before her body was set afire.

But federal public defender Patrick Bouldin asked the jury to consider the context for that tragedy — what he called “a perfect storm of craziness” in which four of Green’s fellow soldiers, including three of his leaders, were murdered in 12 days....


http://www.theleafchronicle.com/article/20090428/NEWS01/90428019
A former U.S. Army soldier accused of raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and slaying her family was upset after losing several friends in combat but didn't appear to struggle more than anyone else in his unit, one of his commanding officers testified.

Steven Dale Green, 23, of Midland, Texas, has pleaded not guilty to more than a dozen charges, including sexual assault and four counts of murder, stemming from the March 2006 attack in Iraq's so-called "Triangle of Death." He is being tried in federal court in connection with the girl's rape and killing and the deaths of her mother, father and a 6-year-old sister.

Col. Todd Ebel told jurors on Monday, the opening day of trial, that he spoke with Green in December 2005 about losing soldiers to enemy attacks. But, Ebel said, beyond frustration, the private first class with the 101st Airborne Division didn't appear unfit to remain in the Army....


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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:43 PM
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1. I don't care if his own mother was shot right before his eyes...
it does not in the least excuse his disgusting actions.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:46 PM
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2. Reading the articles, although he pleaded innocent, seems they
are trying to get him life in prison, not death. They brought over family members to testify. Those poor kids and relatives. There is no excuse for what he did. None. Saying "these things happen in war" is true, but is NO excuse.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:50 PM
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6. Life in prison would be fine with me.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:48 PM
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3. This guy needs to go down, and so do Cheney, Rumsfeld, little Bush and several others.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:49 PM
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4. guess what assholes? war is not THAT foggy.


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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:49 PM
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5. These things DO happen in war ...
and the people who do them should be tried, convicted, and cashiered.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:56 PM
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8. And it's a real good reason to avoid going to war
Instead of rushing headlong toward it. I'm not raising the next generation of this country to rape and immolate 14-year-olds, and I refuse to support a country that sends its military out to do such things.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:41 PM
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14. Exactly what I was thinking in February 2003 as we rushed headlong into war.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:52 PM
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7. and when people practice atrocities in video games it's "in context"
:thumbsdown:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:07 PM
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9. Rape and murder and mutilations are "awesome" indeed!
But it is all just in fun and games, they don't "really" mean it!

I agree, it is just wrong
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:07 PM
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10. Ahem......
ACCUSED rapist/murderer. Everybody is innocent in the eyes of the law until found guilty.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:11 PM
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11. "ahem" to you also. That fit my other headline in gdp, not here
There are "accused" all over in these articles. Thanks for the kick though.

Even though he bragged of it, and the other people involved have testified in their court martials and been convicted of various things, it is true that he is only "accused" at this point.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:54 PM
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16. you mean "ADMITTED" rapist/murderer
"awesome"
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:18 PM
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12. There is no context which exonerates, excuses, or ameliorates the crimes
this was premeditated rape and murder of children, with a coverup attempt made after the crimes were committed.

I oppose the death penalty on principle, but this criminal should remain in prison for the rest of his life.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:32 PM
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13. the context is...he and other purposely went to that poor child's home
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 03:33 PM by noiretextatique
killed her parents and her sister, then raped and shot her...then burned her body. that's the context i will always remember :grr:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 03:44 PM
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15. Context my ass! Go to hell hanging on the end of a rope you monster!
:grr:
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