Obtained: Cheney’s Request Form Detailing The Two CIA Torture Docs He Wants

[deminks]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/obtained-cheneys-request-detailing-the-two-cia-docs-he-wants/

I’ve just obtained from the National Archives the actual request form that Dick Cheney submitted for CIA documents he claims will prove that torture worked.

Cheney requested all of two CIA documents, a total of 21 pages.

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Update: David Kurtz notes a key detail about this form: It’s a request for forms from Cheney’s office, which are marked “detainees.” As Kurtz says, that appears to mean that Cheney kept a file marked “detainees.”

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As reported by KO and Rachel Maddow

Many links at the site.

Edited to add another link from the above article:

ACLU Lawyer: It’s “Striking” That Cheney Requested Only Two Torture Documents

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/aclu-lawyer-its-striking-that-cheney-requested-only-two-torture-documents/

Two things that are immediately striking about the request Dick Cheney submitted for classified documents that would allegedly prove that torture worked:

(1) He only asked for a total of two documents, a total of 21 pages — meaning this is likely the grand total of proof Cheney himself is able to point to supporting his claims about the torture program.

(2) Despite the charge that Obama cherry-picked from the torture memos, it seems pretty clear that Cheney himself did some serious cherry-picking from the intel files.

This, at least, is the immediate takeaway of ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer, who’s been following this stuff as closely as anyone.

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[tekisui]

1. 2 documents out of thousands.

That proves torture is NOT 'effective'. If it was effective, every memo, every forced confession would be valuable, usable information.

An illegal tactic was effective, once would get actionable intel. Hundreds of false confessions only muddy the water and make it harder to determine what is useful.

[Xipe Totec]

2. He just wants that one torture confession, out of hundreds,

where the victim accidentally said something mildly resembling a fact.

Never mind the other hundreds of confessions where he admitted:

- that he was Cinderella's fairy god mother

- that Saddam was a Martian spy

- that 2 + 2 = 6 if you stare long enough.

- that he didn't mind being slammed against walls

- that dog breath isn't that bad after 18 hours of barking and growling 6" from your face

- that he would suck anybody's cock just to stop the waterboarding