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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:03 AM
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My Theory As To Why Health Care Reform Inextricably Tied To Possible Torture Prosecutions ...
THis is just my theory:

Health Care Reform is absolutely essential to Obama's plan for righting the economy, and it will take cross-over votes from Repubs to get it done(especially in the Senate where the margin is thin).

Repubs are putting the wood to Obama that if his Administration pursues criminal prosecution of former Bush Officials for devising, facilitating and instituting torture they will hold any attempts to pass Health Care Reform hostage. They not only can refuse to vote for it, but can drag out the Administration's attempt to hold Bush Officials responsible in such a way that nothing else will get done in Congress --- and there is a lot of Bush damage that needs repair ASAP.

Repubs as a block will stick together. And times are so desperate for them that they might 'trade' health care reform for a decision by the Obama Administration not to prosecute former Bush Officials.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:05 AM
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1. The Republicans aren't going to help pass health care reform.
The Republicans aren't going to help Obama or the Democrats pass any kind of reform. They will obstruct everything. There's no point in attempting to make deals with them.

This country must move forward with prosecuting torturers and those who ordered torture, or the rot will set in permanently and we won't have a country worth defending.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:11 AM
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2. Sounds like the same deal offered to Clinton -
Ignore Iran/Contra and BCCI, and we will not stand in the way of health care reform.

They were lying then, too.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:14 AM
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5. ...or a similar ruse as to why health care will remain off the table
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:13 AM
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3. They have a lot of guts....no sense, but guts.
I like that reconcilliation thing.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:14 AM
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4. Prosecute torture, get the repukes on record defending time and again,
Gain a 61+ seat majority in the Senate in 2010, we won't need the repukes for anything.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:16 AM
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6. Your analysis is great...
again.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:31 AM
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9. +1
:thumbsup:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:18 AM
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7. What a cunning plan. The pubs can become known as the party that's pro-torture and anti-health care
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 10:20 AM by Gidney N Cloyd
Edited to correct my fers and agins.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:22 AM
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8. self delete
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 10:23 AM by kristopher
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:54 AM
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10. Screw them. We should go for both. No compromise on torture or healthcare.
They are and endangered species if they can't see that this is what the people want.

If they stick together to block what needs to happen, they just lose more seats every election.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:58 AM
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11. They don't trust the dems enough to even offer that deal so it's a moot point.
But that's why Justice needs to lead on the torture investigations and Congress needs to do health care.
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