So what did the CIA do with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's children? Where are they now?

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http://www.amnesty.ca/take_action/actions/pakistan_children_enforced_disappearance.php

Pakistan: children among victims of enforced disappearance

Updated: 19 March 2009

In Pakistan, children have both suffered the trauma of disappeared relatives, or become victims of enforced disappearance themselves, sometimes to exert pressure on parents sought by security forces.

Abdullah was only ten years-old when he and his father, Mufti Munir Shakir, the leader of an Islamic group in the Khyber Agency, were arrested on May 16, 2006 at Karachi airport. Abdullah was reportedly interrogated and tortured or ill-treated to make him confess that his father had links with al-Qaeda. Fifty-eight days later he was reportedly released and dropped off in front of the Governor's House in Peshawar after being given assurances that his father would be freed within 15 days. The whereabouts of Mufti Munir Shakir remained unknown until his release over a year later in August 2007. He was never charged with any offence.

Several persons subjected to enforced disappearance have reported seeing children in places of secret detention in Pakistan, often without knowing their names and identity. Mohammad Atif, a former student from Lahore, was released on November 27, 2006, having been picked up on his way home from college in August 2004. He told journalists that he had seen several boys of not more than 15 or 16 years while in detention. He stated that he was frequently transferred and could not identify where the children were held or the reason why they were detained.

In September 2002, Yusuf al-Khalid, then nine years-old, and Abed al-Khalid, then seven years-old, were reportedly apprehended by Pakistani security forces during an attempted capture of their father, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Reports by other detainees indicate that the boys were ill-treated while in Pakistani custody. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was apprehended in March 2003 and was subjected to over three years of enforced disappearance, and to other torture and ill-treatment, by the US authorities before being transferred to Guantánamo Bay, where he is currently held.

After Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's arrest in March 2003, Yusuf and Abed Al Khalid were reportedly transferred out of Pakistan to US custody -- allegedly for questioning about their father's activities and to be used as leverage to force their father to co-operate. A Sunday Telegraph (UK) article in March 2003 alleged that CIA interrogators had detained the children and that one official explained that: "We are handling them with kid gloves. After all, they are only little children...but we need to know as much about their father's recent activities as possible. We have child psychologists on hand at all times and they are given the best of care." In the transcript of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's Combatant Status Review Tribunal in March 2007, he indicates knowledge that his children were apprehended and abused: "They arrested my kids intentionally. They are kids. They been arrested for four months, they had been abused." Their whereabouts remain unknown.

[rcrush]

1. CIA did what it does best with children.

Most likely murdered them or sent them somewhere to be raped and tortured. The CIA knows no other way.

[malaise]

3. DIng ding

Shades of degenerate Rome.

[Solly Mack]

2. K&R

[DinahMoeHum]

4. Sheesh, everything the CIA does turns to shit. Better to have the FBI

do the interrogating - they can get information WITHOUT resorting to torture.

A former FBI guy named Jack Cloonan did this sort of interrogation for the bureau's special "bin Laden unit" from 1996 to 2002:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0801.cloonan.html

(snip)
One man we captured was Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed, an al-Qaeda operative behind the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Ali Mohamed had fully expected to be tortured once we took him in. Instead, we assured him that we wouldn't harm him, and we offered to protect his family. Within weeks, we had opened a gold mine of information about al-Qaeda's operations.

Ali Mohamed wasn't unique. We gave our word to every detainee that no harm would come to him or his family. This invariably stunned them, and they would feel more obligated to cooperate. Also, because all information led to more information, detainees were astonished to find out how much we already knew about them—their networks, their families, their histories. Some seemed relieved to reveal their secrets. When they broke, the transformations were remarkable. Their bodies would go limp. Many would weep. Most would ask to pray. These were men undergoing profound emotional and spiritual turmoil—the result of going from a belief that their destiny was to fight and kill people like us to a decision that they should cooperate with the enemy.
(snip)

Let's also remember that it was those same FBI agents who made the most noise about the CIA's interrogation abuses.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. That's because the FBI is, at its core, about law enforcement.

While the CIA is about extension of Empire.

[Bluerthanblue]

6. THANK You for asking this-!

I asked in a reply last night. This has haunted me since it first made the news.

I searched and searched but have found little-nothing new. One thing I did read said they'd been confined, been deprived of food and water, and ...mentally tortured by having ants/insects put on their bodies... :nuke: it's in this letter ... not very specific..


http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Letter_from_Ali_Khan,_Majid_Khan's_father


What would America say and do, if children of ours were treated that way? We cannot claim any moral standing if we allow this kind of shit.


I'm so ashamed and distraught that so many people seem capable of dismissing the actions done under cover of the american flag-

I'm not judging Obama's response to this- YET- Especially given the reality that just releasing the torture memos is an enormous step forward.

[hvn_nbr_2]

7. They're probably locked in a box full of stinging insects.

Add: If it's not torture in the eyes of the torturers, then it would not be cruel or unusual punishment and thus would be an appropriate sentence when the torturers are finally convicted of torture.