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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:10 PM
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It doesn't matter one bit that Franken has won. Everyone knows that already.
Including the Republicans.

But whoever it is that is doing their cost-benefit analysis has decided that the money they
are spending on the delaying tactics is less important to them than seeing Senator Franken
voting with the Democrats on the Senate floor. Some individual or group in the Republican
leadership is playing a numbers game, figuring their advantages of keeping Franken from
serving as opposed to money saved by throwing in the towel.

It is not an election year, and they still apparently have the money to burn, so the
prospect of seeing that "59th" Democratic Senator--so close to a filibuster-proof count
of 60--is just too much for them to let go. Never mind that with the Lieberman-Bayh cabal
of "now-we-are-now-we-aren't" Democrats, they need hardly fear any ultra-progressive agenda
being steamrolled through the Senate. They see another Democrat in the Senate chamber and
their scream of "EEEEK!!" has more frightened terror in it than Betty Boop when she saw a mouse.

The Coleman effort reminds me of a schoolyard bully who KNOWS that recess will be over and he'll
soon have to go back to class, but while he's outside, he'll torment as many kids as he can. It
serves no purpose, but it makes him feel good.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:13 PM
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1. Ol' Norm may be double-dosing the Lunesta these days, owing to his
obviously failed effort to retain his Senate seat, his related loss of a leadership role in the Senate GOP, and not least, the FBI investigation said to be swirling around his financial doings.


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:16 PM
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2. A Yes vote for the EFCA....And keeping an honest man from the Senate halls...
That's enough reason to spend a few paltry million to keep it in the courts...
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:20 PM
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5. I Saw An Interview With The Head Of SEIU
He considers this go round the first foray and even if it doesn't pass now he says it ultimately will
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:16 PM
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3. His Seating Is Inevitable
Eventually, no many how many barriers they put up, they are wasting their money. The opinion is the Minnesota SC will fast track this as will the US SC. They are only fooling themselves, setting precedent for when the situation is reversed and ticking off the citizens of Minnesota from what I read.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:17 PM
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4. Your points are well taken...
However, recesses do end.

This mess shows no signs of ending.

Someone needs to stop it, and now.

I have no idea who could, or how.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:24 PM
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6. The Democrats should have had a PR campaign ready to roll out THIS MORNING
to demand that the people's choice be seated.

If the shoe were on the other foot, that's what the Republicans would be doing. It would be the #1 story across all media platforms and we would be talking about *that*.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:26 PM
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7. Seen this?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:28 PM
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9. That's what I'm talking about. Sheesh! Will they NEVER learn!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:33 PM
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11. Outside of Minn., there's NO political cost for dragging this out for years...
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 03:35 PM by Junkdrawer
Which tells me this will be drug out for years... :(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:37 PM
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13. You'd think the "dignity" of the Senate was more important than that.
When there was a conflict in one of our districts, Billbray was just seated by Hastert, effectively short circuiting our CA process.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:29 PM
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10. I have an ugly suspicion I know who could stop it
It's not a name I prefer to mention. His name is Rupert Murdoch. If he directs
his media outlets (first and foremost FOX) to start saying that the fight is over
and Franken has won, I suspect Coleman's people would give up and be home in
time for an early dinner. It's scary that such a group of propaganda thugs wield
such influence, but it appears to me that they do--to the point where Coleman's
people would say, "well, if FOX thinks we are finished, then you know we are."
These are people who think that if FOX reports that the world is flat, then all
indications to the contrary are in error.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:58 PM
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16. Forget 'influence,' these bitches got MONEY!!!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:53 PM
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15. It'd be asking too much for Reid to grow a pair. Little weasel.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:27 PM
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8. What Federal concern is there for it to go to a Federal Court?
Elections are State functions and this last court case should be the final answer. I see no reason any Federal court could use to take this case on. I believe it is over except for the crying which Republicans are experts on.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:37 PM
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14. They'll dig up an equal protection reason....Why did the SCOTUS intervene in Fla.?
Where there's a Republican, there's a way....
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:01 PM
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17. Except the Extreme Court said that case could not be used as precedent.
The ONLY purpose of the Supreme Court is to establish Legal precedent and that case was so political they said it defied their very purpose and could not ever be used. No Federal court will take the case on those grounds..
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:02 PM
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18. At the Federal Level wouldn't it go to the Senate - not the Court?
Remember that if it is the election itself that is disputed - not the state's ability to equally apply the law to all of its citizens, then I bleive the Constitution makes each body of the Congress the judge of its own elections. Do I misunderstand that phrase?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:37 PM
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12. nice analogy. seems pretty accurate to me. n/t
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