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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:48 AM
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Please include 24/7 child care every time you mention health care..
Both cases would improve the quality of life, improve the USA and let the USA compete with foreign labor rates. It would spur the economy on the very basic level by freeing up money for the low and middle income.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:51 AM
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1. Why have kids if you want someone else to watch them 24/7?
Maybe I'm not understanding, but this makes no sense to me.

That's like saying we should all have heart monitors at our disposal 24/7 in case we might have a heart attack.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:32 AM
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7. Wouldn't just giving them up for adoption accomplish the same thing?
If one wants to contribute to the gene pool but not take care of the children at all just give them up for adoption. Or better yet donate to a sperm or egg bank.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:40 AM
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8. You know, I've had this idea of a 24 hour babysitting service
My only problem is that one wouldn't be able to release children to parents that have been drinking alcohol. So, I've been trying to figure out a plan on how to make it work.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:48 AM
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10. Some people work night shift and afternoon shift and weekends
and holidays. Why is this being scrutinized from the negative side?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:54 AM
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2. Please start choking every time you say that.
COMPETE WITH FOREIGN LABOR RATES?!!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:57 AM
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3. I disagree completely! I don't have a problem with being able to deduct childcare
payments from your tax liability, but not the general public paying for it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:05 AM
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4. We do pay for it though
There are lots of child care programs for low income moms to work and/or go to school. I wish we'd quit charging people to go to school for $10 hr jobs. That would help more than anything. We created a whole new education industry for jobs that used to be learned on the job, that really serves to put the lowest income people further in debt and not much more.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:27 AM
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6. How is the general public not paying for it in your scenario?
The Treasury forfeiting the tax dollars equals subsidized childcare.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:09 AM
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5. Why should my tax dollars pay for your child care???
If you want to have children then you pay for them.......don't expect me to pay for their care.

What an incredibly stupid idea.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:52 AM
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11. I don't have any children
but your tax dollars already pay for streets and schools and hospitals and wall street bailouts and bank bailouts, Why not help the children of working people.
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:01 AM
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12. Everyone uses streets, schools, and hospitals
Not everyone has children.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:08 AM
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13. Exactly n/t
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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:41 AM
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9. We already pay a HUGE chunk of their childcare.. its
called Public Education...
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:09 AM
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14. Basically a kid farm
All the talk about education and where to place the blame has had me thinking of a way to make everyone happy. The first thing you do, is take away the parent/child relationship. If you leave that up to chance, the kid might not have a chance. People can donate sperm and eggs if they wish(and be paid nicely for it), they just can't have children. So the adults of society are free to do what they do, and the children are raised in some sort of institution. It's all paid for in taxes obviously. That way, every child is given the same environment to grow up in, you can have school 12 months a year(with breaks when the child needs them), and the teachers and other education and child experts are able to form a system of learning around each child. There would be no rush to teach this or that, there would be plenty of time. So the adults aren't able to blame the teachers for education, since they're not parents, and the only time they ever meet the children is in 18-22(or more) years, and they're now adults anyway. The children don't hear one thing from their teachers, and possibly a completely different thing from their parents, and they all start from the same place. The teachers are able to do what they think they need to do to create future productive citizens of society.

Adults are able to live in an adult world. Teachers are able to teach what they need to teach. Children are able to learn what they need to learn. I'd say every problem is solved there. Alright, there might be a few issues, but, for the most part...
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