daughter 17 and crew trainer got 3 days suspension from work because she looked at her phone McDonal

[greenbriar]

Granted she knew better

but she was on speaker, they were dead slow she flipped it open to look and shut it and put it back in her pocket, her shift manager saw her demanded her phone she said no

nothing else was said

She had a few days off due to spring break. Her close friend (an assistant manager at same store) called her and told her she was suspended for 3 days.

5 days AFTER the incident.


She should not have had her phone out, but this is a little over the top


As a mom, I am having a hard time not going to the store and telling them what bullshit I think this is

[Liberal_in_LA]

1. I once supervised young people who worked a front desk, it was SO hard to keep them off those phones

[greenbriar]

2. she does NOT talk on it and she works her butt off

granted she should not have had it out, but she just opened it looked at it and closed it


less than 30 seconds.

she usually does not even check who called or messages because I called her during a tornado warning a couple weeks ago and she did not answer and told me later she can nto use her phone at work


She made a mistake...a write up would have been sufficient I would think but 3 days suspension?

[Maat]

3. It seems grossly unfair to me.

I'd frankly resign, if I were her. That way, the place can't say that they fired her. They may only answer 'yes' in response to 'Did she work there?' That's unreasonable - time to go somewhere else.

[LisaL]

5. Hell I used to work in a place where people could get fired

because they weren't smiling.

[JenniferJuniper]

11. I was one of those people fired at McDonald's for not smiling!

I was 17, it was 1980 and some lecherous old guy complained to the manager that I wasn't making his "meal happy enough"!

The manager told me to smile and "be flirty" with him. I wouldn't, and was promptly dismissed.

[LisaL]

31. At least we were never ordered to flirt. Yikes.

[Maat]

16. That's ridiculous.

I'm sorry that you had to go through that experience.

Perhaps I should stop patronizing these places - period.

[LisaL]

29. It wasn't McDonald's.

But yea we had to smile and say certain things or we could get fired.

[aquart]

18. And there are plenty of jobs out there.

On the next one, perhaps she won't take out her phone.

[dysfunctional press]

20. so you were there when it happened...?

in the workplace- rules is rules.

and the ABSOLUTE WORST thing you could do is go in there and chew out the manager- it's your daughter's workplace, not yours.

[Liberal_in_LA]

28. Ok. I see. The discipline was harsh.

[firedupdem]

4. That does seem kind of tough. My question is how can the manager

demand her phone? She's not at school. What was he going to hold it until you picked it up?

[smalll]

6. LOL - managers of young people, you'll be as powerless as TEACHERS before you know it --

once all the precious little Indigo Children's parents start marching in to YOUR place of business and telling you "what bullshit" it is when you make an attempt to uphold workplace rules. :rofl:

Look, the girl didn't get FIRED -- she got a 3 DAY SUSPENSION.

Oh yeah, but it was "dead slow." I mean, like, dead! There had been NO CUSTOMERS at ALL for like just FOREVER, and I just flipped it out "to look" then I shut it and put it away again mad fast. MAD fast, Mom! Honest! ... :rofl:

[Hoopla Phil]

7. Lesson learned?

[greenbriar]

8. yea and she knew better and even admits it

it was a dumb move

but 3 days is a little extreme

a write up would have been more than sufficient

[Hoopla Phil]

9. That's the way it is in the workplace. She can go work somewhere else. . .

[Naturyl]

10. Employers = Nazis.

[dysfunctional press]

21. the best way to avoid that is to work for yourself.

my main goal in life was to not HAVE a boss, or BE a boss.

and i've acheived it.

now what? :shrug:

[Naturyl]

23. Agreed... or find a way to avoid work altogther.

Congratulations on getting employer-free. It really is an accomplishment.

[dysfunctional press]

25. it was difficult- but worth it in so many ways...

i developed a congenitive auto-immune disorder that led to a painful and crippling arthritis of the spine...
but i don't recommend it for most people- only the most heartless of bastards.
i've been disabled since i was 38...a full decade ago.

[Naturyl]

27. Ouch... I was lucky enough to have a psych diagnosis

Disabled all my life, but officially for the last ten years.

My primary symptoms include a complete unwillingness to have anything to do with employment.

[bevoette]

12. maybe it was OTT...or maybe she could have left her phone in her car

since she's at work?

that's what i do...and i don't even deal with customers :shrug:

[sallylou666]

13. Consequences - kids have to learn them

Let your kid learn from the "logical consequences" now while the consequences are not very severe. Three days pay at 17 YO is not a horrible consequence. Getting fired from a job after college when a person needs to support herself IS a big deal. Getting arrested is a big deal. Maiming people in a car accident is a big deal.

Yes, I have a teenager, and I let that kid deal with the consequences of behavior. I'm not going to go to college with this kid, and all kids need to learn to take care of themselves.

My kid's high school personnel confiscate cell phones and ipods and turn them into the police. To get a cell phone back, parents have to show up and pay a fine. This gets the parent's attention! I fully support the policy. Teachers can't teach if they have to police the kids for technology use. The kids are surfing the net during lessons, according to my kid. If my kid gets an ipod confiscated, you can bet that I'll take my own sweet time giving it back. LOL! This policy may not exist at all high schools in my area. This is a charter school that doesn't tolerate things that disrupt academics. That's why I chose it.

Your kid sounds like a good kid that can handle a small set back. Maybe it'll motivate her to work harder at college? Hard work often motivates kids to get an education. It worked for me.

[ddeclue]

14. This is ridiculously harsh - quit and find a more reasonable place to work.

I worked at the supermarket in high school and college and it was before cell phones were affordable but people had beepers then and that's just ridiculous.

I'd wait a few weeks after returning, find another job and tell the McArches to jump up my ass.

[C......N......C]

15. Here is one way to look at it, maybe it will help.

I got in trouble for reading a text while working. I was told that I get paid for what I do and I don't get paid to look at phones.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. People get fired for less.

That's life.

[Arctic Dave]

19. Actually she shouldn't be on it. The Manager was a over the top but

it has to do with sanitary reasons. No kidding. Think about it, your phone is in your hair, in your pocket, on the counter, you spittle on it, etc.
My wife had to deal with health inspectors and she told me this.

[dysfunctional press]

22. the people who work the counter handle money all the time...

and there's NOTHING filthier than that. and i don't mean that philosophically.

[Arctic Dave]

24. I'm with you on the money thing. Yuck.

I'm just repeating what the Misses told me. Made sense to me considering what my phone goes through in a day.

[dysfunctional press]

26. i can't imagine what it must be like, trying to separate them from people at work...

i've been out of the workforce since cellphones looked like this-



btw- that's not me in the pic...i'm only 48.

[LisaL]

30. Seriously what's the big deal. She got suspended for 3 days,

she can take it as a mini vacation.

[Urban Prairie]

32. I was micromanaged at work for my final employer

Last I heard, they electronically jam cellphones on the workroom floor to disable them. The micromanaging they do is intricately designed down to the very last millisecond.

Too bad for your daughter, but she has to learn how to cover her ass and how to get away with things w/o drawing management's attention or getting caught, and no, I don't mean doing anything criminal.


Long story shortened...after my ex-employer promoted an employee who was a notoriously poor worker, and could not even read, that was the last straw, I fucked with them in every legal manner that I could think of (primarily FMLA) and soon after they cut our pay, (actually was in violation of our contract) I was called into an office for the purpose of soliciting donations to conservative charitable causes that were of interest to them. I told them that I was already donating to a charitable cause...THEM!!

I am now on full disability, through my ex-employer, they are now paying me to stay home.

Fuck corporate capitalism, and screw kissing the ass of "Peter Principled" higher ups to climb the corporate ladder.