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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:43 PM
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Survey: Faith, Bible Not Essential to Good Parenting
A LifeWay Research survey reveals that most parents, even evangelical Christians, don’t view using the Bible and faith as essential elements of good parenting.

Surveyors contacted 1,200 parents with children under 18. Only around 14 percent equated having success in life with having a relationship with God. When asked what they hope for their children, parents’ common responses were children having good values (25 percent), happiness in adulthood (25 percent), success in life (22 percent).

Twenty-nine percent of self-identified Christians said faith was not among the most important influences on their parenting.

http://www.churchsolutionsmag.com/hotnews/lifeway-faith-bible-not-essential-parenting.html

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:46 PM
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1. So, does that mean the "bible believers" are ignoring Deuteronomy?
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:47 PM
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3. And there's that nasty bit about selling your daughters into slavery
The Bible is as good for parenting as Mein Kampf
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:48 PM
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5. The bible has a typo, it should read...
"Then all the men of his town shall stoned him to death."

dude, quit bogarting the doritos.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:47 PM
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2. Duh! n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:48 PM
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4. I think Frank Zappa once said something that
if you want to raise healthy, well-adjusted kids that you should keep them as far away from the church as humanly possible.

Truer words have never been spoken.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:56 PM
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6. Somebody, I can't remember who, once said
"I asked my father about religion. His answer was: 'Nobody knows what happens to us after we die. Some day, someone will come up to you and will tell you that they know exactly what happens to us. As soon as they do that, they'll ask you for money.'"

That about sums it up.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:07 PM
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8. Sounds like a very smart man.
Would like to have met that guy.


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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 10:28 PM
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17. And when you pay your bill, kindly leave a little tip,
and help that next poor sucker on his one-way trip.

(from "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing")
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:01 PM
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7. Unless their kids turn out gay.
Then many of 'em will grab for the Bible like a can of Raid in a cockroach infested room.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:56 PM
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9. Or their daughter comes up pregnant...
A "Christian" family who used to live across the street from me had their 13-year-old daughter show up pregnant. So, did they give her wise counsel? Certainly not. They tossed her out on her ear. Literally.

She showed up at our house with a suitcase packed with her clothes and told us her parents had thrown her out of the house. I talked to them, and they called her a "slut" and a "Jezebel."

So, we found out that she had an aunt in a nearby city, so we had her call her aunt, who drove over and picked her up. She stayed with her aunt, gave up the baby for adoption, and lived there until she got out of High School and cosmetology school and found a job. Her parents never spoke to her again, nor did they ever speak to her aunt, who was her mother's sister.

Pillars of their fundamentalist church, they were. Fuckers!
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:40 PM
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10. that's just crazy n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:43 PM
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11. Yup. Crazy it was.
I was completely gobsmacked. Fortunately, it all worked out OK for the girl. She was a nice kid, and did fine once she got out of that toxic environment.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:45 PM
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12. "nor did they ever speak to her aunt"
Wow.

Just wow.

That's TOO evil.

These pieces of shit should FOESADIAF.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:50 PM
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15. I know. I couldn't believe it when it happened.
The girl had visited us a lot of times. She'd come across the street and hang out at our place, just to talk. She didn't say a lot about her parents, and seemed like a typical 13-year-old.

I was ready to call the Child Protective Services after they threw her out, but once I found out that she had an aunt who was likely to be sympathetic, I decided to have her call her aunt. It worked out OK.

The parents, who had lived across the street for only about a year, soon moved out of their rental. I saw them around town, though for several years after that, and saw them at their church when I attended a wedding there, a few years after the incident.

The girl sent us a card about ten years after the thing happened. She'd gotten married, had a kid, and had moved to New Mexico. She seemed quite happy. A very resilient person, it seems to me.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:31 PM
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19. I suppose the hateful parents told the church
she died or ran away? How could they endorse this behavior?

I'm happy for the girl getting her life together. She's probably much happier without them.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:10 PM
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18. Good grief. That's horrible.
That kind of treatment can screw a person up. It's good to know she bounced back ok.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:43 PM
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13. I hold up the offspring of Xian ministers as empirical evidence
You'd expect these sons and daughters of Xian ministers to be nearer-to-perfect exemplars of Xian values, right? In my experience - more than 50 years of treading this earth - fully 90% of these ministerial offspring had serious problems running the gamut of societal afflictions. It's greater than the rate for society in general, I'm sure.
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:25 PM
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14. Of course the bible and faith aren't essential.
You have to have a gun and any pos right wing book to see the light. Then there's faith and the bible. You have your essentials for everything.:evilgrin:

Just ask that loving christian reading freeper who went into that (place) in Tennessee. To beat the hell out of those "evil people".O8) :evilgrin:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 10:24 PM
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16. I knew a Lutheran minister's daughter....
Missouri Synod.

She and her sister both made A's and were very bright, nice girls. I went to high school with them.

This was the early 70s.

The younger one got a job at a Sizzler steakhouse. She married a boy she met at work. He was a Baptist. The parents never spoke to her again.

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