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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:09 PM
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A moment to decide who we are.
I am going to suggest the unthinkable. But it needs to be brought up and discussed.

Let me begin with a couple premises.

First, we are a nation that tortures. We do not extent constitutional rights to persons of interest or enemy combatants (or whatever we are going to call them now).

Second, the behavior of financial service executives, whether or not it is actually criminal., it rises to the level of economic terrorism.

This leads us to the possibility of waterboarding the masters of the universe for information about their criminality.

Since we cannot get their bonus money back, we need to consider that the only moral hazard left for these economic terrorists is extraordinary rendition.
Doing this, however, does vindicate Cheney.

So what is it to be then?
Do we torture the bastards?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:11 PM
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1. let's go tribal and banish the fuckers
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:15 PM
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3. ...and what's being raised here explains much of the so-called "anti-terror" legislation
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:14 PM
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2. Since most of us are still working, it isn't that bad.
Now is the time to act ! Got me. I don't know what to do. Somebody does and now is the time to hear from them.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:36 PM
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4. My .02
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 12:37 PM by Fovea
The idea of trial by a jury of one's peers replaced religiously sanctioned vendetta in Classical Greece (See the Orestia).
It was ever so much better than the Erynies.
http://www.mhhe.com/mayfieldpub/mythology/links/erinyes.htm

The primary difference between the third world, and what is left of America is the rule of law, and its lack of preference or indeed privilege.
Laws were broken as well as torts committed.
malefactors must go to jail.

And finally, I take as faith that there is nothing constructed by contract to circumvent culpability that cannot be undone by contract law.

Just like the Clinton DoJ did to big tobacco. As a final step, sue the motherfuckers back to trading cowery shells and yams.
I'd like to see a lot of Bush era government fucks selling pencils on the corner too.

We could raise the class action suit to a whole new level.
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