a different take on Stewart/Cramer from Huffpo:

[islandmkl]

Booyah Jon, Welcome to Cramerica!

I've come to the realization that if you were to describe The Daily Show and Mad Money to a blind person they likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Both try to be entertaining, they both use 'goofy' sounds, they both try to be 'current' and they are both successful--sometimes. The Stewart vs. Cramer edition of The Daily Show was one of the other times.

Where they go wrong is when they both actually believe their own publicity. Verbal helium is a dangerous thing. Stewart is a comic turned the 'white knight' of journalism, holding the feet of hemming and hawing politicos to The Daily Show fire. Pointing out their foibles, keeping an eye on the world for the rest us. A voice of eternal reason, the Diogenes of his generation.

Cramer on the other hand is a stock picking "guru." In his veins beats the pulse of the Street. He's been there, done that, become a rich man by using his wits to stay ahead of the curve, and he, just like Stewart, is there to make sure that we, the unwashed, don't get taken,

Too late. We've been taken by the both of them, and of course it's our own fault.

more at link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-hegedus/jon-youre-wrong-it-is-a-g_b_174712.html

(islandmkl note: you will never guess who the writer is...and whether he might, just might, have an agenda...or at least a stake in how CNBC looked after ALL the Daily Shows...check out the 6 (currently) pages of comments)

Mike Hegedus, Media consultant, former CNBC correspondent

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Jesus, what an idiot

Stewart flat out says that he sells snake oil but that he doesn't pretend otherwise. Hegedus pretends otherwise to lick CNBC wounds. Stewart knows exactly where he fits in all of this and he mocks those that pretend he's anything but a comedian.

But while he's got the attention of the nation, he managed to ask a lot of questions that many people want to have an answer to. In these few moments, Stewart IS the best journalist of the times. Stewart knows where the lines are and he always respects them.

[Motown_Johnny]

2. one is saying "Buy this stock, sell that stock" the other isn't. I think blind people can tell the

difference between that and a comedy show.

[phantom power]

3. Wow Mike, really? "They're both just the same!"

Did ya think that up all by yourself?
:eyes:

[sinkingfeeling]

4. And I thought it was written by the Duer who couldn't see where Jon followed 'journalistic standards

[AndyA]

5. I think Jon Stewart handled the Cramer episode very well.

He was very fair with him, gave Cramer the opportunity to express himself, and Steward always treated Cramer with respect.

The last line of the interview said it all, I thought. Basically, Cramer needs to straighten up and Stewart wants to go back to focusing on the comedy stuff.

Jon Stewart was very nice, and very respectful in the way he handled it. He didn't beat up on Cramer, but made his point.

[Rider Haggard]

6. I won't call Hegedus an idiot.

He uses too many big words. :)

But I will disagree with him. I mean, how dare a comic hold the occasional talking head's feet to fire. They are the sacred cows of media and you can't diss your own. A show might get canceled. Like Crossfire.

[Hello_Kitty]

9. God I hope this gets CNBC cancelled

Welcome to DU, BTW. :hi:

[Rider Haggard]

25. Thanks for the welcome.

And while I don't want the whole network gone, I would love to see it completely restructured.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

14. You can't advertise "When times are tough and you don't know what to do...IN CRAMER WE TRUST"

and then shrug and say "Hey, how were we supposed to know that people were going to take him seriously? Anyone that took his advice 100% is an idiot that deserved to lose their money" and *THAT* was one of the main points Jon made last night. How someone could have possibly missed that...

[KharmaTrain]

7. Different Kinds Of Snake Oil...

This obviously went over this asshat's head.

With the Daily Show, we know it's snake oil and love it. The slimier the better as we're not taking it, we're looking at it. The blind person would feel it...see how slick it is, but never be told to use it for anything more than a prop. With Cramer, the snake oil was not just peddled as medicine but some super tonic. Drink it by the gallons "and profit". The viewer (or blind man) is convinced that the tonic tastes good and anyone who says different is just jealous. Now when we find out the snake oil is bad, all Cramer can say is "my bad".

[PA Democrat]

8. LOL! "Former CNBC correspondent"

Stewart always says he is nothing more than a comedian. Cramer claims to be a financial guru. Someone is guilty of false advertising, and it isn't Stewart!

[ShortnFiery]

10. Cramer "using his wits" = SCAMMING other little people. Yeah, real laudable analysis.

:puke:

[SoCalDem]

11. One glaring difference comes to mind.

CNBC is/was? a "special" venue CREATED by GE-MICROSOFT-NBC , just for the purpose of pumping up the very IDEA of investing...investing for the "common man"..who would love the entertaining, "inside the game" methodology they portrayed on the channel(s)..

Cute girls, down-home guys, hunky guys, geeky guys..something for EVERYONE..but the underlying message is/was.. "we are experts..we do this all the time, we know what we're doing..we're letting YOU in on our secrets..you too can be rich..pay attention.."..

Jon Stewart is part of COMEDY CENTRAL.. he does not offer stock tips, he does not offer you a chance to "become a comedian" if you pay close attention.. He skewers the hypocrites of politics/media.. He's DOING what he's always promised us.. He's shining a big ole light on the people who tell us they "have our best interests at heart"..

When Jon's skits miss the mark, no one loses their life's savings..no one has their 401- morphed into a 101-k.

[Larkspur]

12. I really enjoyed Stewart vs Cramer

Stewart asked the tough questions that journalists should ask. It's really a black mark on journalism today when a professional comedian can do a better job asking tough questions than those who are professional journalists.

I think that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow do a great job sorting through the stories and ferreting out the truth. I notice that in one show, Stewart tried to mock Rachel, but if fell flat and that was because she does her homework and asks the tough questions.

Cramer is not an evil person, but his ego and the need to do his show daily made him disconnected from what ordinary people need to know. I don't mind Cramer using the comedian props if its to emphasize a point, but when Cramer and his colleagues do not do due diligence to help root out the corruption plaguing Wall Street and inform us about it, then they are serving the evil that is melting down this nation.

I did like it when Stewart called Scarborough Doucheborough.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

13. I was just about to post this bullshit article. I wonder if he even watched the interview

Jon specifically said "We're both snake oil salesman"

[ShortnFiery]

16. Big Difference: Jon Stewart KNOWs it's comedy, Cramer cravenly screwed with people's

life savings by claiming to be REAL. Cramer's SCUM! :puke:

[walldude]

18. Exactly.. How many people lost their life savings because of Jon's show?

This guy is a turd. Maybe Jon can eviscerate him next.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

22. Exactly. Cramer got up there and said "Gee whiz, I thought people *knew* that you can't make fast

money." Then he went back to host his show "Fast Money".

[Waiting For Everyman]

15. Correction: Cramer became rich by being Michael Steinhardt's bitch.

But then, so was Bill Clinton and all of the DLC.

http://www.deepcapture.com/category/1-the-players/

[ShortnFiery]

17. Let's not get started with the DLC evaluations - but they're much better than total right wing rule.

;)

[Waiting For Everyman]

20. I agree with you, just bringin' out "the facts ma'am".

As Joe Friday might've said.

[peacetalksforall]

19. This writer rushed in with bandaids to help out GE/NBC.

This may seem weird, but I think we witnessed a milestone in this era of crimes against us.

I feel someone spoke for me last night.

I don't want to get soapy, but it was a hero moment. I don't think Jon would want to be called a hero, you can tell he delivered what he does best, but much more. He put his foot down on deception.

This was a very serious encounter. He was given an opportunity to speak for millions of people like us. There were jokes and quips - but he oozed the truth. This was not a typical program. This was not a trite show - it was an incredibly important exchange. Cramer may be lying to us and I don't even care. I have little hope for him, GE, CNBC, Wall Street. THE POINT IS SOMEONE SPOKE FOR ME, FOR US and called him on the truth just as I would do if miracles really happened.

Something tells me that this old way of cheating us on prime time just got scaled up the ladder. We need to pick up from here and run with the twist of events that took place within that half hour. THough we are terribly unorganized - last night's program was exquisitively focused and pointed. What can we take from it, how can we ride with it.

We're not going to be able to have the Daily Show continue to do this, but we can pick up the banner AND DEMAND honesty from those who own your airwaves, my airwaves.

More importantly, we must show them that we will not be owned by them.

They just can't go on lying, spreading lies, and pretending they believe lies.

I think we can do it. One person and his team and sponsore did something very important last night. They made NBC attempt to get themselves off the criminal hook. The DAILY SHOW GAVE US SOMETHING. THEY GAVE US THE TOOL TO DEMAND. Jon delivered for them and for us.

It's all up to us. Don't scoff and react all fatalistic.

There has to be a channel of protest that they will listen to just as they listened to Jon Stewart.

I hold hands with those who have not stopped dead in their fatalistic rut to the point where they can't hope.

The real hero (s) are the ones out there who can come up with ideas to make it happen.

We need less of being scattered.

[mod mom]

21. Mike, media consultant, sounds like he's on a retainer w cnbc. Sorry mike-not buying it.

[TahitiNut]

23. CNBC/Cramer made the error of whining about being the butt of the joke.

Jon Stewart belongs to the long comic tradition of whoopee cushions, pie-in-the-face puncturing of pomposity. His targets are those with hubris on steroids whose asses are too large for their britches. When they fall flat on their asses, Jon points and laughs. It's a simple, honest, impolite form of comedy that merely says "Look at that!"

To whine about having the spotlight of comedy shining on one's own dirty butt is an apt demonstration of a disconnect from reality. Jon doesn't HAVE to be a 'journalist' ... all he needs to do is say "Look at that!" The comedy is in the observation.

When someone makes themselves the butt of the joke, it's just more comic to whine about it.

Let's face it - naked emperors are FUNNY looking!

[LiberalFighter]

24. I wonder if Hegedus is behind any stock scamming?

[DCKit]

26. Another paid MSM/corporate commentator.

While he's not defending Cramer, he's minimizing Stewart's credibility.

Sad and uninformed. Hopefully this article will encourage more people to watch the segment.