The real elite divide in the USA: Fuck them, we have ours v. bribe them off so we can keep ours

[originalpckelly]

That, ladies and gentlemen is the real difference between the people at the top of either political party. WE THE PEOPLE may have a difference of opinion on so many other topics, but as it concerns the economy, that's what the top debates.

The Republicans represent the fuck them faction. The Democrats represent the bribe them faction.

But neither is really interested in populism or helping the people be free of the oligarchy that controls the economy, the political parties through donations, and therefore the government.

Both sides, however, appear to follow the fuck them doctrine as it concerns the nations they abuse to provide this empire with its natural resources/actual labor.

There are very few real jobs in the US today, most of them are in the bureaucracy or jobs to service the bureaucracy of this empire. All the actual industrial manufacturing occurs overseas in what would be our colonies, were we a normal/overt empire.

Due to the fact that the empire uses classified operations by the CIA, it makes it all but impossible to completely point to the methods of control in foreign affairs. As time goes on, more and more of past operations become declassified, and we can see the beginnings of the Top Secret American Empire.

It may now be secret, but it hasn't always been.

In school we all learn about the founding of this nation, but that education seems to miss the importance of what was done to the First Americans, and the importance of slavery. These two horrible facts, when not analyzed correctly, lead one to believe that it wasn't that big of a deal or if it was, it was a big deal that happened long ago, in the past.

However, those two facts, the genocide of the natives and enslavement of Africans, completely invalidate any of the rhetoric of the founders of America. We may worship them today, but these were the people who killed the First Americans and enslaved the Africans (and if you remember they even enslaved the First Americans, until they died out.)

Do you really think Thomas Jefferson looked into the eyes of Sally Hemings and didn't see a human being? Bullshit! It's just really easy to see another person as property when you're economically or sexually greedy.

And yet this is the same man who wrote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Well, maybe Sally didn't count, because she was woman, and he did say all "men" are created equal. And those First Americans who were men? I don't know, maybe he just forgot about them.

"UK: STOP TELLING US WHAT TO DO, SO WE CAN TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO!"

That document, the United States Declaration of Independence, has always and shall always represent his, and in general all of the founders, hypocrisy, and to all of us a past due loan.

For too long in this nation, the oligarchy that traces its roots to the earliest days of this American Empire has ruled this people with that loan. We gave them the power to control us. The loan agreement, is that we'd get that loan back with interest: good decisions and jobs.

It appears the only payments have been lies upon lies and poisoned goods.

We cannot afford to accept lies as payment on this loan any longer. This loan is no longer profitable, the people now living in tent cities are proof of that. We still own the deed to this house, despite how much they want to deceive us of that fact.

It's time that we foreclose on the property, and evict the people who refuse to pay.

The truth of the matter, however, is that they may already be in the process of burning the house down. It may very well be crumbling ash, only waiting for one good wind to blow it away. Only time will tell.

Now, whether or not it comes down on its own, we must make plans for whats left, if anything, of this house.

As we enter this period, we must take precautions not to lend to a person or a group of people who will not pay. We must make sure the borrower is stable and reliable. I don't think we can take another bad loan.

[Orrex]

1. Typo in the subject line, but otherwise a fine post

Unless you're just wedding our appetite and grooming us for a response.

[originalpckelly]

2. I think I may be a member of the fuck you faction.

:P

Please forgive me, I fell while mopping a floor yesterday and I haven't been typing like myself, as I've got a scraped finger.

Fuck, I even messed up this post, had to add the "been" in there!

[Orrex]

3. Ouch!

Ironic that that such an accident should befall the keeper of the CAUTION: WET FLOOR signs.

Take care of your finger!

[originalpckelly]

4. You and I both feel the same way about the finger!

:P

[geckosfeet]

5. Buying people or paying them off is a way of life for the elite. It is second nature.

They know (think) that people will do anything for the green - and they have no shame in asking them to do it.

[originalpckelly]

6. Precisely...

Whether it's sex, scrubbing vomit/piss/shit off of a toilet, or passing legislation, it doesn't matter, it's all the same thing.

[jody]

7. That's life in the Corporate State of America "with liberty and justice for sale".

[Hannah Bell]

8. "those two facts, the genocide of the natives and enslavement of Africans, completely invalidate"

not only that; the fortunes of most of those elites were founded on those original sins.

do the genealogy of any family who's been in the higher circles of power for generations, & you'll often find: slave trade, slave labor, trade of slave goods, land theft & crown land grants, government contracts. big time.

it's amazing how often it's the case.

& it's these ruling circles of power who tell ordinary people it's their *prejudice* that created the race problem in the US.

The same bastards who got rich off working people to death, & passed that wealth on to the present day.

Here's one of them: the Farishes of the Standard Oil nexus. They start in Mississippi Delta plantations & move on to auschwitz.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4751898

[originalpckelly]

9. Damn.

Thanks, you're doing a great service to show us the genealogical links.

[TBF]

10. Pckelly, this is the best post I've seen from you yet -

you are absolutely right. The elite keeps repubs/dems fighting about so many issues (guns, god, abortion, womens rights, etc...)and I believe they do this deliberately to keep the focus off economics. And that's exactly where the focus needs to be.

It doesn't really matter what your label is - you're either for the working people or you're for the owners.

Many people are tricked into thinking they are "owners" or "elites". They may have a good education, a big house and had a bit of money in the bank. But when that paycheck stops coming they'll figure out which side they're really on.

In solidarity with all workers, glad to have you aboard.

[originalpckelly]

11. And not just buy off economics, but overturning the apple cart economics.

As long there are corporations, then this system will not be fair.

[TBF]

13. I'm with you. n/t

[geckosfeet]

12. Throw taxes in there too. They get the little guy to do their dirty work for them.