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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:38 PM
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Fundies: Young Christians should only date if it's "intentional" and leads to marriage.....
:wow: :crazy:



from the American Family Association's unhinged OneNewsNow:



Dating guidelines for young Christians
Allie Martin - OneNewsNow - 2/14/2009 4:05:00 AM


A Christian author says his children have been encouraged not only to stay physically pure but also emotionally pure before marriage.

Chuck Black and his wife Andrea have six children, ranging in age from 12 to 21. When it comes to dating, he says his children have been brought up to embrace a biblical view on the subject.

Black notes his children are not allowed to date, unless the dating is intentional and leading toward marriage. He adds that his children were prepared beforehand for the dating guidelines.

"We did tell them our approach would be different from early on. The Bible says that we are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and a peculiar people, and that we should praise Him who has called us out of darkness," Black points out. "One thing that's important for them to realize early on is that what we were going to do was different, so they were ready to be a little bit set apart from the rest of the world."

While Black would never say all Christian families must have similar dating policies, he believes the dating guidelines have been a major blessing for his family.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=418716 (in the event of a fundie Rick-roll, the story is at www.afa.net in the onenewsnow area)


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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:40 PM
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1. Good! That means my grandchildren will have a greater choice of
intelligent people. Maybe the Fundies can cloister their children until the age of 35!
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:40 PM
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2. I'll take fruitcakes for $800 alex.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:40 PM
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3. "American Family Association"
The very name of the organization enables their continuity of jacking off to nationalism as some sort of "more American" and more "caring about families" than the rest of us.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:42 PM
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4. They can't date someone unless they intend to marry that person?
Did I read that right?
Isn't the purpose of dating to see if you're compatible? What if you find out you don't like the person very much after a few dates? :shrug:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:36 PM
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14. I think the idea is more like: They can't experiment at all in terms of relationships.
And no, they can't even test compatibility.

In other words, they not only can't see what it might be like to spend time with someone who might be fun but not marriage material for them, they also can't date casually in the sense of just starting as friends or people attracted to each other and see if it leads anywhere or not. They have to ask themselves, before they even date a person, "Is this THE one and only person I want to marry?" If the answer is no, they can't do it.

You might rightly ask "How can they know whether they would want to marry the person unless they date the person first?" Well, they can't. Unless they're permitted to get to know that person very well in some other way first. For a long time. If that's what this guy meant, fine, but if he meant they are forbidden to ask people they don't know well out on a date unless they're already prepared to put a ring on their finger no matter what, well...

I have nothing against the philosophy of dating in a way that's not "just for fun," or slowing down the sexual aspects of relating with people until you get to know them better. But taking a teenager and saying "You will date only people you would be willing to marry that very day, if you were asked to do so" is...loony. :shrug:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:43 PM
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5. That's about an inch away from arranged marriages.
What a control freak.

Then there's the Palin model: You can date and have sex before marriage but only if it leads to pregnancy.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:44 PM
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6. A peculiar people?
Well, that's spot on! Nutty as a fruitcake, loony, bonkers, and bat-shit crazy as well.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:45 PM
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7. All of my best dating experiences have been...um,
unintentional. :D
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:48 PM
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8. Fine--a few less whackos to chase my daughters
Except that repressed kids tend to be the one that get wildest when set
free from the yokes of religious repression. These guys are raising a bunch
of Francis Dolarhydes. I hope they are in a small village in northern Idaho
and have no intention of ever straying farther than three miles from their
parental home.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:08 PM
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11. Problem is, they're scattered across America & unfortunately, my neck of the woods is saturated.
Not sure WHAT they're spiking the kool-aid w/these days, but it must be extremely toxic to logical thinking patterns.

When I was in college over 3 decades ago :(, when we would go to the closest large city to party, the wildest, craziest kids came from the private COC college in that city. They made the rest of us state college kids look like Puritans. We always felt it was their way of "making up for lost time" after their religious suppression at home.

I've never been a big bible-reader (raised Catholic, it wasn't that encouraged...besides "our" bible was not the King James version), but I question WHERE in the bible it says: "that we are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and a peculiar people, and that we should praise Him who has called us out of darkness."
Sounds woefully like a verse taken out of context & twisted to meet their agenda.

Ironically, they are too whitewashed to see that they are remaining in "darkness" with their ridiculous rules & views.

How DO you navigate around this type of blind stupidity? :shrug:

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:53 PM
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17. Treacherous waters for sure
We raised our daughters in the German Rheinland.

The only sacrilege they know of is missing Karnival
in Germany in the winter and Massachusetts in the summer.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:53 PM
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9. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard
My parents, and millions of other parents, including me, have long told our children to "play the field" before getting married. And there are many many long time marriages out there because of advice just like that. My parents have been married to each other for 54 years, are truly religious people, and they dated before marriage. I'd say that worked out fairly well.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:55 PM
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10. Down the funnel of
sectarianism/nationalism/inbreeding. If they would actually sequester themselves that would be fine, but damned if they don't constantly crawl back out of the woodwork and make trouble.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:11 PM
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12. Well that should produce a nice crop of emotionally stunted people.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:12 PM
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13. "Hey, babe. Your church or mine?"
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:38 PM
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15. "a peculiar people"
We did tell them our approach would be different from early on. The Bible says that we are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, and a peculiar people, and that we should praise Him who has called us out of darkness," Black points out. "One thing that's important for them to realize early on is that what we were going to do was different, so they were ready to be a little bit set apart from the rest of the world."

Peculiar? Peculiar?

How about fucked up beyond belief?

Take your "biblical" views and shove them where the sun don't shine.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:41 PM
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16. I think it's intended to keep them dating within the church
If they go to Christian schools and to a church, and don't go anywhere else, the only other kids they'll know well enough to date will be their religion.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:10 PM
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18. Taliban America?
Doesn't this stuff sound familiar?

What if their daughters don't obey? Will they support "honor" killing or disfigurement with acid?

Make no mistake about that. That is where this crap leads.

And all in the name of Jesus.

Jesus wept...
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:15 PM
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19. Oh Hell, let's just cut to the chase and go back to arraigned marriages.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:45 PM
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21. Arraigned marriages? Like my husband explains? That we're married "against" each other?
I know, but it's a joke to us. 30 years and we're blissfully happy. Bad joke, but what the heck?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:20 PM
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20. What is an unintentional date?
Like if I go to lunch with a male friend? I don't intend it to be a date but it really is? :wtf:
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