Your Honest Opinion - Will Bush Be Impeached

[ThomWV]

Poll question: Your Honest Opinion - Will Bush Be Impeached

This question isn't about what you want to happen, the question is what will happen.

[Redbear]

1. The evidence will become overwhelming.

Even cautious Democrats will have no choice but to go forward with impeachment.

[paparush]

Who, among the democrats, will risk their political futures to move on that evidence?

[Kelly Rupert]

6. I would prefer the Democrats not risk the party's political future

on the zero-win game of impeachment. I'd love to see it happen, but it would be foolhardy to rush after it.

[paparush]

32. Maybe..just maybe it will be the Repugs who finally reign their dog in...

maybe...

[pocoloco]

2. No Guts....No Green Stamps!!

[hootinholler]

8. No Balls, No Blue Chips!

[bdamomma]

3. if this Congress wants to save their own a$$e$ they will better

get off their a$$es and impeach, bush will take them all down, sooner or later, I hope this Congress realizes that they are dealing with a maniac. Some have mentioned it already.

[Kelly Rupert]

4. Yes, Congress will do its duty and

concentrate on policy fixing Bush's disasters instead of revenge over them.

[ThomWV]

7. So there will be no more disasters in the next 2 years?

You think he's done with his agenda and will spend the next two years defending himself? Where does that leave the country, ruderless?

[Kelly Rupert]

9. No, not rudderless.

We have Congress. We set the rudder. He can talk about an "agenda" all he likes, but all he can do is threaten a veto.

[hootinholler]

13. Do you honestly think impeachment is about revenge?

I'm gabberflasted! These criminals must be impeached and prosecuted, not out of revenge, but out of constitutional duty. It's about so much more than revenge. It's about foriegn policy and good faith, it's about the rule of law, about accountability, real accountability.

-Hoot

[Kelly Rupert]

14. There is no such constitutional duty.

There exists the option in the Constitution. It is not mandatory.

Impeachment would be a small positive for foreign policy. You know what would be a better positive for foreign policy? Ending the Iraq war, and forcing a more peaceful, proactive policy. You have a year and a half before '08, you can't pick both.

Impeachment would be a small positive for rule of law. You know what would be a better positive for rule of law? Removing the Executive branch's ability to torture, kidnap, and spy without any accountability. You have a year and a half before '08, you can't pick both.

Impeachment would be a small positive for accountability. You know what would be a better postive for accountability? For Congress to reconvene oversight of Executive function. You have a year and a half before '08, you can't pick both.

[hootinholler]

18. So, you agree with me :D

There is a constitutional duty, albeit implied, but as real as any other.

If congress will do the investigations, all else will follow, we only have a year and a half.

We can agree to disagree on the magnitude of the effect of impeachment, excepting the last statement you make. Impeachement is the ultimate remedy in oversight.

-Hoot

[Kelly Rupert]

30. There is no constitutional duty to impeach.

It is not implied. It is not real. It does not exist. Such a "mandate" is the fever dream of bloggers who think that if they wish hard enough, then Ms. Pelosi et al. will decide to throw away all scraps of sense and finesse (and along with them, any hope of retaining the Democratic majority) to impeach Mr. Bush.

The Democrats do not have the votes to convict. They likely do not have the votes to so much as impeach. It would be a pointless act--and Mr. Bush's inevitable exoneration would be counted by all observers as a major, major win for him.

[Poiuyt]

5. He should more than any other president in our history, but our Congress

is too afraid to impeach two presidents in a row. I think that Bill Clinton's impeachment has given Bush a free pass to do anything.

[emulatorloo]

10. I want to see Bush exposed and humiliated, but Repugs will not ever vote to impeach him

The Republicans will continue to protect him -- they do not want to alienate thier base, 70% of whom still think Bush is doing a wonderful job.

So I will settle for exposure and humiliation.

[Flarney]

11. I don't think they will, and it's really going to piss me off.

We may as well remove impeachment powers from the Constitution (what left of it) if they don't do it. I don't care if he gets convicted in the Senate on his last day of office, so long as a boot is in his ass on his way out the door.

[Zuiderelle]

12. When hell freezes over.

[Time for change]

15. I had to vote yes because I want it so bad

Sorry, I'm not sure that I'm capable of giving an honest unbiased opinion on this. And btw I predicted Nixon's impeachment even before the Senate hearings were commenced (as I recall).

Here's something we can do to help the process along:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x496184

[Marie26]

16. No, unfortunately

There's not enough time.

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. No, he will not be impeached.

In the unlikely event that congress gets an impeachment majority, he will resign.

They are all about remaining unaccountable - and resigning under pressure makes it "our fault", while impeachment and conviction would prove that it is "their fault".

Just like losing in Vietnam was "our fault" for not seeing it through to victory, when we pull out of Iraq it will be "our fault" and they will throw that up at us in every election for the next two generations. Just like Nixon being forced out was "our fault" because the Democrats and the liberal media were out to get him.

[Lil Missy]

19. No, it won't happen. Even though it should.

I would love to see that happen because I believe bush/cheney and this crooked should go down in flames and humiliation.

But realistic ly, the votes in the Senate are not there. And I am worried about a drawn out effort to impeach would backfire on us.

Let me elaborate on my perspective:

In the 90's I was non political and really didn't know where I fell on the political spectrum. I based my opinions on the current hype i saw on TV, but i didn't ever vote. And now I can see that I came to the wrong conclusions back then.

It was the constant harassment of Clinton that woke me up and pissed me off. I thought investigating his personal life, and particularly his underwear, was outrageous. To make a long story short, I discovered that I was a liberal, and that conservatives were assholes. They were spinning tales out of nothing to incite hatred among the ignorant.

I am not saying that Dems would do the same to bush, but I am just afraid that a drawn out impeachment hearing would have the same effect on other would-be Republicans. The river is ever flowing, and everyone has to jump in somewhere.

But, if impeachment comes to the table, I will hold my breath and hope for the best. I would actively support it, and hope to the gods that it doesn't backfire and cause us to lose ground.

I just want to see a Democrat in the White House in 2008. And more gains in the House and Senate. But color me very cynical, because these bastards seem to get all the breaks.

[Jack Rabbit]

20. I have always maintained that Bush and Cheney will be impeached

Investigations will put the facts one the table and will make a clear, coherent case that even a partisan corporatist like Senator McConnell -- or even Senator Lieberman -- cannot deny.

J'accuse. I allege the following high crimes and misdemeanors warrant impeachment and removal of Mssrs. Bush and Cheney, presumed to be president and vice president of the United States since January 20, 2001, IAW with being appointed by the Supreme Court on December 12, 2000:

Bush, Cheney, Secretary of State (then NSA chief) Rice, then-Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, then-Defense Undersecretaries Wolfowitz and Feith and many, many other key administration officials manipulated intelligence and willfully misrepresented, distorted or fabricated facts to the public and Congress about the threat posed to US national security by Iraq in order to drum up public support and congressional authorization for war against Iraq.

Bush, without proper cause or provocation, initiated a war of aggression against Iraq in violation of the Charter of the United Nations, to which the United States is a party and bound by law under the sixth article of the Constitution of the United States.

Bush ordered troops into combat zones without providing for the safety of their persons or vehicles, thus causing many unnecessary deaths and injuries.

Bush failed to see that the laws were faithfully executed by allowing hospitals under the Department of Defense and the Veterans Administration to dilapidate and provide substandard care for wounded veterans returning from war.

Bush failed to see that the laws were faithfully executed in that he has allowed huge sums of money appropriated by Congress for reconstruction of Iraq to go missing without account.

Bush and Cheney and members of their staves conspired to blow the cover of a CIA couterproliferation officer as part of a purely political vendetta against her husband, doing damage to the nation's couterproliferation efforts.

Bush and Attorney General Gonzales and members of their staves conspired to fire eight US Attorneys for partisan political reasons and replace them with political hacks.

Cheney guided war reconstruction contracts for Halliburton, of which he was once CEO, through the procurement system on a no-bid basis, with great financial benefit to himself.

Bush, Cheney, Attorney General (then White House Counsel) Gonzales and several White House attorneys, then-Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and Undersecretary of Defense Carbone conspired to violate the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Torture, all to which the United State is party and bound by law under the sixth article of the Constitution of the United States, to violate the human rights of detained terrorist suspects including the denial of due process of law in mock legal proceedings and use of torture as a method of interrogation.

The above mentioned also conspired to hold US citizen Jose Padilla in detention indefinitely without charges being brought in violation of the Sixth Amendment.

Bush, Cheney and other members of the administration conspired to allow the NSA to search private records of phone conversations without warrant in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Bush failed to execute the law and his duties as commander in chief by taking no action to prevent an attack on the United States when briefed on or about August 6, 2001 of planned attack by the al Qaida network using hijacked planes as missiles; said attack took place on September 11, 2001.

Bush failed the law by neglecting the maintenance of levees prior and taking inadequate measures for evacuation and relief in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

[catmandu57]

21. For every reason you have cited

they should be put under the goddamn prison. i think chimpy* will resign in disgrace once a few of the lower rungs are kicked out from underneath him. First gonzo, the dead eye, then we work on the rest of the gang, when his support is gone he's gone.

[applegrove]

22. Support for the GOP shrinks the longer Bush rules. Not a bad trade off for

having to live with the *.

[Jack Rabbit]

23. Dissent

US service members and Iraqi people die as long as long as Bush is in office.

I'd prefer to see the GOP baunce back after enough of them support the effort to oust the regime to living through anouther year and half of that.

[applegrove]

26. Right you are. I'm outside the USA. I guess I just don't know how hard

it is to live with *. Like I said..I'm hoping in the long term...we outside the USA don't have to deal with creeps like the current Administration again. And I'm hoping * will redeploy soon. Once it become obvious even to him Iraq is lost.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

24. Impeachment: Yes / Removal: No

Impeachment requires a simply majority in the House of Representatives. Given a smoking gun turned up by congressional investigators, I think the Democrats (and possibly a Republican or two) could show the cojones to impeach Bush. The problem, in my view, is not the vote to impeach but the vote to convict and remove from office.

In the Senate we need a two-thirds majority to convict, and we have only a one-vote majority. If you subtract the vote of Joe Lieberman (who will not vote to convict), then the Republicans actually have a one-vote majority. We would need seventeen Republican Senators to cross party lines and vote to convict. Even if a congressional investigation turn up the proverbial smoking howitzer, you'll still only get 7-8 Republicans to vote to convict. The rest simply will not do it.

[PhilipShore]

25. No

[Ganja Ninja]

27. I think it's going to happen.

There's just too much coming out now and it's only adding to what's already a majority of public opinion that this government is out of control and needs to be replaced ASAP. The Dem's have only been in partial control for 2 months and we're already hearing calls from some Republican's for Bush's impeachment. That would have been unthinkable last January. Give it another 6 months and what will the country's mood be?

[stirlingsliver]

28. I Sure Hope Congress Does Its Duty

I sure hope Congress does its duty and impeaches * -- and Cheney, too!

[genie_weenie]

29. The Bad Sleep Well.

Sadly, the Regime members will never face any consequences for their crimes. In fact, they will enjoy FREE EXCELLENT HEALTH CARE, PROTECTION SERVICES, $50K SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS and generally be lauded for the rest of their lives...



If I had photoshop abilities, I'd replace the faces with Bush and Darth Cheney.

[Nicole]

31. No n/t