Do we need 60 to pass this or just simple majority?

[SeeHopeWin]

There aren't 100 in the Senate now, then what?

[Cleita]

1. A majority would do it if the Republics don't filibuster. n/t

[Bleacher Creature]

2. Republicans would filibuster giving hoses to firemen if it helped them politically.

It's all a game to them.

[ColbertWatcher]

7. "It's all a game to them." QFT. n/t

[blurp]

16. But it wouldn't help them, so why are Dems being so timid?

Democrats have complete control of the government.

WHY THE HELL AREN'T THEY DOING ANYTHING WITH IT?

They could easily roll over the Republicans.

[Bleacher Creature]

22. If we go into a major depression with Dems holding the WH and Congress, it helps them>

Don't underestimate how misinformed Americans can be. Even if it's clear to all of us that the economy taked further because of Republican obstructionism, most Americans will just look at who is in change and blame them.

I'm convinced that these people are that perverse (which is why I completely agree with you that it's time to roll right over them).

[SeeHopeWin]

3. so we don't have to worry about 40 for them or 60 for us?

[Cleita]

9. Apparently they are going by the 3/5 of those present rule. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

10. I wish they would actually MAKE them filibuster

if that's what they're going to do instead of "Oh, no, they might filibuster. We need 60 votes." They're so wimpy about this stuff.

[B Calm]

21. No kidding! Let the working poor see who's responsible for this!!

[LSK]

4. I think its 3/5 of those present

[Faygo Kid]

5. It's 60 to invoke cloture in order to bring it to the floor.

Once that's reached, then it's a simple majority to pass the actual legislation.

I think it's in trouble, and may not get to 60. The Repukes are no longer interested in governing. If they ever actually were these past decades. Now, though, they are in the throes of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk.

Screw bipartisanship. It's DOA.

[ColbertWatcher]

8. "The Repukes are no longer interested in governing." Someone has to start saying this!

On the floor on the TV!

People have to start repeating this every time the GOP obstructs!

[backscatter712]

12. I've been getting mixed signals today.

Reid stated today that he had enough votes to make cloture.

Of course, a competent Majority Leader wouldn't bring a necessary bill like this up for a vote unless he already knew how everyone was going to vote...

The big drama is how Snowe and Collins, as well as the Blue Dogs are going to vote today.

I'll throw some Mythbusters type odds out there.

60% chance of the bill making cloture today.

20% chance says Reid yoinks the bill at the last minute, probably because some senator is throwing a hissy-fit and threatening to vote against cloture, and we'll have to wait a few days, maybe a few weeks before they try again.

20% chance that the bill comes to a vote, but fails to make cloture, meaning Reid got totally pwn3d.

[quiller4]

17. Ds already have the 60 as long as the amendindment

Collins, Snow and others put forward this afternoon passes.

[spanone]

6. this is a vote on mccain amendment not the bill

[AlinPA]

11. We need 60, because cloture (agreeing to vote) requires it. If we don't don't get

60 votes for cloture, there is no up or down vote. It is dead.

[4 t 4]

13. We need Al Franken now

get's us to 59 a bit better There are 58 Dems I learned today (didn't know for sure) how many Re------ you fill in the blank but really how many ? thanks

[AlinPA]

19. 41 R's. 2 I's. 56 D. 1 undetermined (MN).

If R's stick together, they stop the legislation.

[damntexdem]

14. 60 to invoke cloture -- end a filibuster.

A simple majority to pass if allowed to vote.

[4 t 4]

15. I know but 59 is better than 58

just a little less chance for defeat if Any of the Republicans vote with the Democrats

[Peace Patriot]

18. Here's what I think Obama should if these unelected, 'TRADE SECRET' code

voting machine Pukes stop his bill:

1. Take the money out of the Defense and Homeland Security budgets, especially Defense and Homeland Security projects in their home states, by executive order, and

2. Tell them to suck on that.

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Remember all the billions and billions in off-budget Defense spending, and black budgets, and 'disappeared' billions? Where is it all? Start there. All the secret budgets. Make it hurt. And DARE THEM to act against a sitting emperor in a time of war!

:rofl:

[librechik]

20. We need 60 and a gun. Or maybe a Las Vegas retreat.

just because.

[ThomWV]

23. Once again we see why Republicans will do all they can to delay t he arrival of Franken