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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:06 AM
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Do you want to see what's in the Stimulus bill for your city?
Go Here:

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

That's a lot of jobs.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:10 AM
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1. My state gets nothing - apparently.
Aint that grand.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:06 AM
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28. None of the projects mentioned..
at that site are part of the stimulus package. What is there, are examples of what "Could" be achieved through the stimulus package.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:05 AM
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32. Yep....
49 states, Washington DC, and Puerto Rico made the list....New Hampshire not so much...I guess we'll just have to team up with ThomWV and the "Hosed States" contingent.....
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:12 PM
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33. Fine by me... if it also means we can stop paying taxes.
Live Free or Die! I'm really beginning to like our motto. :bounce:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:15 AM
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2. This is totally made up
This is what a group of individuals decided was in the stimulus based on various programs suggested by different cities and states. No money has been specifically targeted in the bill, not one project that I'm aware of.
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Pakhet Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:20 AM
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5. true
it looks like a list of requested monies to be spent on the following list of improvements. and if NH doesn't have anything on the list, it's because no one there has requested any money for a specific task.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:33 AM
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13. I agree that no money has been specifically targeted.
But, these are projects that could start quickly.

Look at the bigger picture. If you put one person to work they can start taking their family out to dinner again. The waiter gets a tip. They can buy groceries.

Trickle UP.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:35 AM
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14. "could" doesn't mean will
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 09:36 AM by sandnsea
I'm not arguing the value of any given local project - I'm saying that this site is a fraud because these people have no idea what project will be funded.

Look at the people in this thread who think these are the guaranteed projects that are coming. They aren't. How cruel.

Not your fault, damn these people for putting up this phony web site.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:38 PM
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45. *shovel ready* can also mean pork on the run
I went through my area, and many of those construction jobs amounted to re-surfacing roads that don't NEED to be re-surfaced. In the wealthier areas, naturally.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:28 PM
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41. from an email I received (open government list)
I think the OP isn't correct in calling this *the* Stimulus package watch site --

"Stimulus Watch is based on the U.S. Conference of Mayors' catalog of
projects. The mayors' report was issued to give Congress an estimate
of how much it should appropriate for the various federal programs
that will in turn disburse the funds to localities. The mayors asked
for a lot ($26 billion for CDBG, for example) but Congress is not
going to give them that much (they're only setting aside an extra $1
billion for CDBG)."

and it continues:

"The question now is, which of the mayors' proposed 10,000+ projects
will the Obama agencies fund? Which are the critical ones? Although
funding decisions are often done by formula, President Obama has
promised to invest the stimulus money wisely, and not on projects with
a low return. That is where our site comes in. It will gather local
knowledge about these projects and will help keep the administration
accountable about which projects they fund. Once funded I hope the
site can keep local officials accountable on spending the money."


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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:18 AM
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3. My city gets nothing nt
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:32 AM
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10. Niether does mine...
directly that is. I can still hope the money sloshes around a while before it drains out of the state and heads off to an unmarked bank account in the Caimans.

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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:26 PM
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39. Nor does mine
And we're huge in comparison with some that did.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:18 AM
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4. no jobs for 57 yr old women
anyway, again, it looks to me like a temporary fix. Until Obama addresses the bleeding of all the jobs to other countries, this will only last for so long. he needs to force the corporations to bring all the jobs back to the US and he needs to cut their golden parachutes and tax the hell out of them. and he needs to keep them from benefitting from offshore accounts. Until then, this is a great idea but it wont last long. oh, and nationalize the banks.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:55 AM
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22. See post 17 below. Lots of jobs for a 57 year old women.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:36 PM
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47. if they start these jobs, more jobs will be created
administrative support, procurement, restaurants will staff up to feed the workers, retail will be able to staff up to sell clothing, boots etc

it will truly be a trickle out
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:21 AM
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6. There are projects in there for my city that have been on hold for DECADES.
And they're not fluff & tinsel either - they're rebuilding main roads & replacing bridges.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:22 AM
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7. My city (Lynn, MA) is racking it up ...
Gonna be interesting to see how many we get to do.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:27 AM
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9. The North Shore in general did well for itself
Nothing down my way in the Foxboro/Attleboro area.

I'm moving up to Peabody summer of 2010.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:32 AM
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11. Nothing on that list for my city, Lowell
Which I find hard to believe. :shrug:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:16 AM
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30. The real North Shore received nothing.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:00 AM
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25. The only two Western Mass cities
on that list are Chicopee and Northampton.

Further west than that...forget it.

Which doesn't surprise me, really. My own rural (Hill)town is usually left out in limbo anyway...


:shrug:
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:24 AM
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8. wow! lynchburg va get a whole shitload of$$$
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:32 AM
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12. Lots of Construction jobs.
Nothing for 53-year-old asthmatic females. :sigh:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:47 AM
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17. I disagree. My wife is a project administrator for a construction company.
She has a nice office and never has to touch a shovel.

Other jobs in her office:

Purchasing
Accounting
Clerical
Project Manager
CEO (yes her boss is a women)


Creating construction jobs puts a lot of people back to work.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:04 PM
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34. I was actually referring to the listings
on the OP's referenced website. The listings in my area were for people who work building new roads. My problem with such stimulus projects is that it's tilted too much toward one area - construction. I'm not trying to deny construction workers jobs but there are lots of other job areas, such as IT, such as manufacturing, that should be included in the job portion of the stimulus package. Anyway, I was being specific to my area.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:44 AM
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15. ONE!!!???!!!
ONE project for the whole state of WV??!!

GEEZ!!!

I hope like hell that this is just a tentative list. This area is so desperate for jobs, and just generally in need of some of this stimulus, that I can't believe we are being left out of the mix.

:nuke:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:48 AM
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19. As sandnsea pointed out up thread this is just jobs that could be funded.
Not specific projects in the plan.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:46 AM
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16. Florida has the most
Over 1700 projects

The ones for my city are sooooooooo needed. Our streets are a mess and we are so overpopulated that the roads are crowded all the time.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:48 AM
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18. these are "shovel ready" projects, not
necessarily what we will get via the stimulus bill
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:51 AM
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20. That is a great site. nt
of course one of the projects in my city say f--- Liberals.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:53 AM
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21. Delaware
Infrastructure and environment, which looks very good.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:58 AM
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23. Un Fucking Believable - West Virginia gets 1 project, worth $700k employing 20 people
And I have neighbors (about 20 households) just down the road from me that have been fighting for 10 years to get city water. The project requires extending a fucking pipe one half mile along a long existant right of way. Six months out of the year these people have to bring their water to the house in tanks on the back of pick up trucks. You tell me something isn't dead ass wrong here.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:04 AM
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27. Not true..
there are no such projects in the stimulus bill. That site provides examples of what the stimulus money "Could" be used for.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:00 AM
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24. You guys do realize
that we can DU ones that we like. Right?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:03 AM
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26. Unfortunately...

These projects are not part of the stimulus bill. They are candidates for funding by federal grant programs once the bill passes. Learn more by reading the FAQs.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:13 AM
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29. CLARIFICATION: The projects listed are NOT in the stimulus bill.
But, they are projects that are "Shovel Ready". It just gives you an idea of how many jobs can be created.

$850,000,000,000.00 goes a long way.

This list was compiled from the U.S. Conference of Mayors' report.



2. Why these projects? Why the U.S. Conference of Mayors' report?

First and foremost, the Mayor's report presented an opportunity for citizens to engage with their government. The U.S. Conference took the laudable step of posting online a complete, detailed, and well-formatted list of projects and related data. This made it easy for us to take the data and use it for the site you see here. These projects are also worth scrutinizing. To what extent do these projects reflect what citizens want or need for their communities? The list provides an opportunity for citizens to provide useful feedback to their elected officials. This discussion can help monitor funds and also rate the extent to which projects 'hit their marks'.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:32 PM
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42. and any number of these *shovel ready* jobs can be possible pork
I went through my area, and some of the construction jobs were for re-doing roads that really didn't need to be redone (but of course, were in the wealthiest areas, so of COURSE they have to be done).

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:36 PM
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44. Thanks for this clarification. Now I need to correct the email I sent out !
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:49 AM
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31. Bupkus for my county.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:19 PM
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35. 5th rec, and a KICK
cincy, lovin it.

among some of the goodies in store for us:

High Solar Reflectance Roofs. Grants for high SRIs

Cincinnati Streetcar Network

MetroWest Phase II project. Total costs for site preparation and construction of a 60,000 square foot light industrial building would be approximately $6.8 million that would create 80-100 FTE permanent jobs. Project located in Lower Price Hill neighbor

and a whole slew of enviro-friendly renovations, public school improvements, and road construction and repair.

anyone that has ever been to Cincy would underestand how excited i would be about road repair...
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:21 PM
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36. Is this etched in stone yet?
There's nothing for our little town, but we're in serious need of improvements that seem to be getting done in other parts of the state. Hmmmmmmm....... Thanks for the link! Great info.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:25 PM
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38. No, Acually none of these projects are included in the plan.
See post 29.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:22 PM
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37. Nothing for southern Oregon where the unemployment rate is the highest
That kind of sucks but we're used to getting the shaft
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:26 PM
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40. OMG!! Not only my State - but my city and my neighborhood ! Projects that
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 01:29 PM by K Gardner
have been waiting and needing desperately to be done !

This will put thousands back to work, just in MY city !

K & R !
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:34 PM
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43. CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW !!!111!!!
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 01:37 PM by SmileyRose
Bogus list. LOL

But I really really really hope President Obama pays for those 2 dog parks. LOL

Edit - from the very first paragraph on the website -- "These projects are not part of the stimulus bill."
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:20 PM
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46. 154 projects in Nebraska and every single last one of them
in Lincoln and Omaha. Surprise, surprise, surprise.




bastards
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:44 PM
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48. Woohoo! We're getting fire hydrants!
There are none in my subdivision for some reason. The fire department must bring in pump trucks or run hoses to the arterials, 1/2 mile away.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:45 AM
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49. that is a cool link
thank you
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