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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:43 PM
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CNN lady said the Peanut butter company knew it was sending out bad
product. Said that the plant was filthy. Said that criminal charges could be pending. Good. I hope all the execs end up in jail for the cheap, shoddy practices.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:48 PM
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1. They knew 12 different times. There was an article in LBN about it
sometime last week, iirc.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:49 PM
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2. If the double-wide on the news was the company's main office...
That should have given their customers a clue.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:57 PM
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4. My husband is on the way to Dubai right now to inspect a supplier's
plant to ensure the quality of their product. I guess there is no way to travel to Georgia.....
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:51 PM
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3. The management and the knowing enablers in government should be prosecuted, also, IMO. nt
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:04 PM
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5. If a foreign terrorist had infiltrated the nation's peanut butter industry
And if that foreign terrorist had introduced salmonella into the supply, sickening hundreds and killing several, what do you think would happen to that guy?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:11 PM
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6. well, for one thing ...
The Republicans would be on the "liberal media" pointing out how he's related to Barack HUSSEIN Obama ...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:13 PM
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7. He'd duck into a cave and watch us invade a third party with no connection?
Oh, cheney isn't makeing the decisions anymore...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:14 PM
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8. Yeah, we'd probably have invaded a Smuckers plant
But that's so two weeks ago!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:20 PM
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10. Intent vs. negligence
There is a difference, but neither one should ever happen.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:23 PM
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12. Knowingly allowing tainted product to be distributed to the public equals intent
You're right that intent =/= negligence, but in this case allowing tainted food to reach the public is no different from causing tainted food to reach the public.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 04:40 PM
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15. Legally, it's why there are negligence laws
This is negligence, intentional negligence, very serious and people should go to jail. It's not the same as setting out with a conspiracy to kill people though.

I do think the pscyhology of society is interesting though because if they said a terrorist group was putting salmonella in peanut butter - holy shit can you imagine the hysteria.

People do need to ask themselves why they put up with things from corporate America that they would never ever put up with from a terrorist or street criminal. Shoplifting a candy bar gets more outrage.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 05:17 PM
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17. Good points, sandnsea--people find it more acceptable to be poisoned by
"our" business people than anyone else! :crazy:
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 06:19 PM
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18. It's not so VERY different from a conspiracy to kill people though.
They knew the product was contaminated, but they sold it anyway. They knew salmonella can cause death, but their profits were more important than the lives of mere mortals.
When talking about actual human beings, I'm always against the death penalty, but I think for corporations we ought to be able to permanently disband any company that kills people to make a profit.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:28 PM
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22. Ah! I see what you're saying.
I still think a case could be made for conspiracy, on the grounds that the negligent parties in this case were operating from a position of trust and abused that trust in knowingly distributing a contaminated product.

But I agree that this is still different from a guy breaking into the plant and dumping a vial of salmonella into a holding vat.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:16 PM
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9. If that is the case, it's pretty cut and dry. They need to go to jail. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 04:02 PM
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14. "Cut and dry"? Referencing a beauty parlor experience?
I realize that this is a losing battle to save a language that is being distorted by mishearing, crappy education, and the endless ignorance of the internet, but some days IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.

Cut (past tense) and DRIED (past tense) as in grass cut and dried for fodder. Meaning done, ready for use.

Most of us don't cut hay anymore, so people try to fit the words to what they know. Which destroys its history. The Oxford English Dictionary is already accepting many mishearings and bad guesses that have passed in common usage. It's why I don't respect it anymore.

But go ahead. The OED will be fine with it.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 05:13 PM
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16. Like "spitting image" which is supposed to be "spit and image." It's a small thing, but
drives me nuts.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:21 PM
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11. Apparantly many of these companies have not US government
oversite.

It is up to the companies to monitor and self regulate. The company found many of it's own issues but chose to do nothing about it.

They absolutely must be prosecuted!!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:46 PM
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13. oversight
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 06:26 PM
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19. I have also seen on many
broadcasts they did internal tests and knew if was not measuring up to safety standards but sent it out anyway. Criminal I think so because deaths were some of the results.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 06:41 PM
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21. But but...we were told companies would freely regulate themselves
like telling a child no cookies, then leaving them alone with a filled cookie jar, and expecting that child to be responsible. Greed, uncontrolled greed.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 06:32 PM
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20. CNN Ladies are notoriously unreliable
I'd check out another reputable source before passing judgement.

If I were you, that is.
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