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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:46 PM
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Gore’s Plan Goes Far Beyond Anything Congress Envisions
Gore’s Plan Goes Far Beyond Anything Congress Envisions

This article does bring up some good points regarding Congress and I have to be honest and state that even though I am so very grateful to Mr. Gore for appearing in front of these committees, I am very skeptical about what will come from it from the other side of that table as the only thing many of them seemed concerned about were the coal and nuclear lobbies that support them.

Where was the urgency? Where were the questions regarding solar power? There wasn’t one unless I missed it. Where were the questions that dealt with management of resources in the event of another climate catastrophe? Hurricane Katrina doesn’t seem to have changed much in the halls of Congress regarding the way things are done, so why should we expect any changes now? Where were the questions regarding how soon biofuels will be in our tanks nationwide? The majority of questions dealt with nuclear power and coal, which of course those who make deals in Congress have to support regardless of their affects on our planet. It was only due to the fact that Mr. Gore mentioned rivers in danger in this world that the water crisis was even given a mention.

And of course, they also had to place him on the spot about nuclear too. I wish he would have simply stated that nuclear power is not an option at this point and moved on, because clearly many members of Congress simply do not have a grasp on how urgent it is for us to not only wean ourselves off of oil, but also the very technology that has brought nothing but death, destruction, and disease to this planet. Their questions only proved to me that they have no intentions of shifting their focus on it.

However, aside from that, his plan as delivered to Congress this past Wednesday is also bold and daring and in my opinion not the kind of plan someone running for president in this system would deliver. It is the plan of a man who is totally dedicated to solving this crisis and devoting his time to getting things done regarding that and having it happen as quickly as possible. It is evasive, visionary, necessary, and unlike anything the military/industrial complex would ever truly entertain.

The plan includes:

1. Freezing carbon emissions now
2. Instituting a carbon tax
3. Passing on revenues to lower income groups
4. Signing a strong global treaty ( not named Kyoto) with de facto compliance date being moved from 2012 to 2010.
5. A moratorium on construction of coal powered plants not fitted with carbon capture and sequestration features.
6. Electranet-smart grid
7. “CNMA” or Connie Maes for home buyers
8. Replacing incandescent light bulbs

Please tell me how any of these plans are going to be passed by this Congress this year or for that matter, any year? Will even Democrats from states where automobiles are the prime source of income ever really entertain carbon freezes? Carbon taxes? Carbon sequestration? Raising CAFÉ standards? Cutting emissions by 90% even by 2050 which I personally think is even too long to wait?

All their corporate backers will do is what they always do. Whine that putting such features on their smoke stacks will cost them and therefore force them to pass that expense on to their customers. They will whine it will cut productivity which will then mean cutting jobs if income does not make up for their expenditures, blah, blah, blah. And the wheels continue to spin. At this point, they shouldn’t be allowed to spin their wheels. Al Gore calls this a planetary emergency, and it is not shrill, it is reality for anyone who would dare to look beyond the confines of their own bubble.

It is obvious to me however, that politicians and those without a sense of vision on the whole simply do not have the same sense of urgency about this as those of us who see that expending it now in ways that actually can increase productivity and jobs will also save us in future generations regarding having a planet that can sustain us. These are long term plans not quick fixes and as Mr. Gore stated in his testimony this crisis is not going anywhere. It is here, now, and it must be addressed now not just by Congress, but by all of us as he also stated this is not a political football. But will it be in the way it needs to be in order to truly have a positive effect? Or will that catastrophe have to hit us first?

Now, before go on, I have to state that I was blown away by the guts it took for Mr. Gore to venture back to that den of iniquity for the first time after that same Congress were derelict in their duty in the Congressional chambers in 2001 when saving this Democracy was imperative. His going there showed me that this crisis is indeed more important to him than politics, and perhaps it was also a way for him to get closure as this hearing is now the last memory of his being there rather than the gavel being brought down on our Democracy.

His opening statement was emotional and so very true. What will our children ask when they are adults and look back on this time? Will they see a generation so embroiled in our own selfish pursuits that we had no time to think of the future? Or will they look back with gratitude that we saw the danger and opportunity and acted on it to avert a catastrophe of our own making?

Does Congress truly get that urgency? I think some do, and while I was not totally pleased with all of the questions and discussions on the whole on their part because they truly did not showcase real alternative energy options or delving deeper into other options besides coal and nuclear energy (ocean wave energy is also something I think should be explored but was not discussed) and passing legislation to deal with emissions now, I do see a shift beginning in mindset and that is one positive out of all of it.

However, the time between shifting mindset and solution cannot take much longer. Mr. Gore made mention as well that a political shift can happen fast. Well, Mr. Gore, for the sake of this planet it better happen in Congress this year. Call me skeptical, but I don’t think it will. I do however, think the grassroots and citizens out here are shifting, changing, and acting and that is due for the most part to your inspiration and guidance regarding this on a global scale. The over 500,000 signatures you brought with you will hopefully now be more than just pieces of paper to be forgotten once delivered. Your testimony made it clear that there is an urgent need to wake up to the consequences of our actions. You did more than many would ever do in advocating for this planet. Let’s hope those who needed to hear it take the baton you have passed on to them, and once again, thank you.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:50 PM
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1. the catastrophe that means it too late to do anything will have to hit us first.
after all- we're only human.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:53 PM
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4. it already is-- and it is too late to stop global climate change, IMO....
The question now is which of the selection of bad news trajectories do we want to ride?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:29 PM
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10. i think so too.
i just hope that i get to live long enough to see florida submerged.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:51 PM
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2. Somewhere Sen. Inhofe strangles a kitten.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:51 PM
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3. this is another reason that Gore MUST run for president....
No one else has the credibility or the sheer dedication of turn the U.S. around on gross consumption and carbon release.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:54 PM
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5. It means WE must do our duty as citizens and UNelect those who betray us and this planet
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 01:58 PM by RestoreGore
The responsibility for turning this around goes straight to us now. Al Gore is already doing more than his share of this work. It is Congress that MUST now run for us, and that won't happen if we sit back waiting for one man to do it for us. Those 500,000 signatures should not be where we stop.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:17 PM
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16. GORE FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:30 PM
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17. That's a great idea!
GORE FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:32 AM
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24. I think Gore should run for President in '08 too!
Let him lead us in this from the WH, the most powerful position in the world. We can do it, but it's we can do it better if we're being led by someone with a strong vision who understands how to prioritize!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:50 AM
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25.  We are being led by a leader on this who has priortized
And that is exactly what he needs to continue to do. And after the horrible things you said about me in that other thread, I think you have some nerve coming in here. Notice how this thread didn't "drop like a stone" as you so insulted me before, which is probably why you came here two days after the fact. Now come back at me again like you did there and prove once again what YOUR real agenda is regarding Mr. Gore.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:27 PM
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26. You really need to get past this idea that...
Anyone who expresses a desire for Al Gore to run in '08 has "an agenda" that you have to protect Al Gore from at all costs. And something I say to YOU in response to YOUR comments or opinions have nothing to do with Al Gore. You and he are not intertwined, and anyone who has a diffent opinion from you about Al Gore's future is not a threat to Al Gore, nor are we his enemy.

I do sometimes read your threads, I don't think I've ever said I didn't - there have been times you have something valuable to say, and you manage to do it without climbing up on your high horse. But I usually don't recommend them, or comment on them - either to YOU or anyone who posts on them anymore. I've barely been here at DU since you posted this thread yesterday afternoon - you can do a search and see how few posts I've made since your OP - and I hadn't seen it. If I hadn't decided to comment to someone else's post, you still wouldn't know I'd read your thread. That's right - my comment was to someone else, not you at all...

so wait: you go on threads started by others, knowing from the titles you're going to disagree with the posts, and then insult, patronize and condescend to anyone who posts an opinion you disagree with. You tell anyone who dares to say something to you that they're welcome to come on your threads and say whatever they want, just like you were doing. Then I read one of your posts, and make a (friendly)comment to someone else's post, who was responding to another person's post - and I do it once and once only, and you tell me I've got a lot of nerve because I objected to your bullying behavior to me and others on previous threads, not started by you?

Pot, meet Kettle.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:01 PM
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27. You came in here deliberately
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 05:02 PM by RestoreGore
As did the two before you who were also part of the "gang up" group on me there just because I don't jump on the runalrun bandwagon because I respect him more than to keep pushing him into something he doesn't appear by his own words and actions to want. And I don't care if you read my posts or not, as I am not here to get acceptance but to inform others, and if people read what I post that is fine with me. The point I was making here is that by coming here after what you said to me there even though I had not even responded or insulted YOU there, you are a hypocrite. In the future then, don't dare to wag your finger at me about my motivations or opinions. Now unless you have a comment about the substance of his testimony, I'm done with you here.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:26 PM
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29. Um, I thought he already was the president.
Huh? Yes, I have been living in a box since 2000.

Well, it is a very nice box. Anyway, what about Gore?

Huh? Oh. :-( How the hell did THAT happen?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:03 PM
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30. Absolutely!
He's been mine since 2000 and will always be regardless of somem phony title being bestowed on him by the military/industrial complex that could never truly appreciate his vision.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:58 PM
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6. we need better alternatives before incandescent bulbs go
the other ones aren't there yet.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:00 PM
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7. I have CFLs and they work just fine
But again, the big problem is getting people set in their ways to trust innovation and change.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:32 PM
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11. cfl's don't work for every situation-
lights with dimmers, security/spotlights, enclosed fixtures, flashing lights, to name just some of the situations in which they won't help.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:02 PM
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13. the mere fact that this conversation is taking place demonstrates...
...what is wrong with us. Rather than debating the relative consumer merits of incandecents vs CFLs, we need to simply embrace the lower energy consumptive alternative as the default better choice.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:16 PM
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15. And many of us have done that...
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 03:17 PM by RestoreGore
But again, as with any change human nature first pushes against it out of fear of the unknown. We have to get information out to people that those alternatives are better choices and prove it, and make them more accessible to people. There are poor people in this country who can't afford CFLs or other alternatives, and many areas of this country that currently make it difficult to switch to alternate energies. Even Mr. Gore eluded to the fact that his neighborhood had zoning regulations that did not allow solar panels.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:05 PM
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8. I read on Gore's blog today that
he was contacted by several members of the committee interested in introducing legislation embodying his recommendations.

Guess we'll see.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:26 PM
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9. Yes, I guess we will see...
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 02:31 PM by RestoreGore
because I believe to even have anything pass moderate Republicans would have to be swayed. And I'm guessing it's not on the moratorium for coal fired power plants. I did notice Sen. Clinton was impressed by the Connie Mae initiative. Perhaps it is that.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:34 PM
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12. What is CNMA?
Forgive me, I'm trying to get up to speed with this in a fairly short time since, politically, this has gone from "minor problem we'll have to deal with at some point" to "major problem which we have to deal with right fucking now".

I think, with this speech, you can probably rule Mr. Gore out of a presidential run. Much as I'd like to see him run and think he'd be great, his speech was too radical and too far-reaching for someone with one eye on a potential nomination.

The other question is how much of this is actually possible? I use CFLs in much of my home but, because I suffer bad reactions to fluorescent lighting (they give me migranes), I can't use them throughout and I'm certainly not the only one to suffer that problem. Is freezing carbon emissions now even workable? And so on. Also, given both the USA's addiction to cheap gasoline (you're still paying less than much of Europe) and the worrying amount of converts the global warming deniers have, a carbon tax is a political non-starter right now.

I'm a pessimist by nature. I think it may already be too late and all we can do is slow the demise. I also think we're unlikely to see any real action unless/until some untold catastrophe hits us. Which means the only option for sensible nations is to pump billions into their space budgets.

To the stars, my friend, to the stars.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:02 PM
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14. CNMA is my abbreviation for Connie Mae
And I agree, I think his speech was his way of truly showing he is not interested in running for political office, but most certainly interested in influencing events because this truly is radical, and I think perhaps too radical for this Congress. As to it being possible, I suppose that depends on what world we live in. In this world it may be but to be honest I don't know in the timeframe scientists are saying it is necessary to avoid catastrophe. In a world where people truly all had a moral compass and a concern for that which sustains them, of course... but we don't live in that world because it doesn't exist. Which is why I too have great skepticism about this and wonder how many in Congress will also only use it to get votes now. As for slowing the demise, as far as glacier melt I don't think we are in time to stop it, but I certainly believe we can do something to mitgate droughts and damage to our oceans and forests.The one thing that concerns me most are glacial earthquakes in Greenland, because I don't think we can stop them now either.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:30 PM
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18. Mr. Gore's Speech At NYU was First Mention Of This Plan
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 03:31 PM by RestoreGore
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/RestoreGore/11

He gave this speech last September where he laid out what he presented to Congress this week. This is my write up of it with links to the video of his speech.















http://progressivesforgore.blogspot.com
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:40 PM
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19. Gore Moves On To Live Earth And Alliance For Climate Protection
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/22/MNGDROPJN61.DTL

I was wondering when the ads were going to begin. This is very exciting. He's actually doing it, and it is going to change a lot of lives. I also read he is starting climate slideshow training in the UK.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:36 PM
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20. Change a bulb, change the world
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=lighting.pr_lighting

I refuse to believe all hope is lost. I simply cannot tell my child that. Even though I do believe some processes like glacial melt are beyond stopping completely, I do believe we still have time to reduce carbon emissions. We simply cannot continue to spew into the atmosphere what we do daily in regards to 70 MILLION tons of Co2 that only exacerbates what has already begun. I still believe we have a chance to slow this process down and perhaps even turn some of it around.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:55 PM
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21. Al Gore, Global Statesman
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070409/von_hoffman

Good article. He is not a "politician" and doesn't play their games. He is beyond that now, he is a global statesman. A man who plays by his own rules, guides his own fate, and is free to devote his time to this one issue which is the right thing to do to see progress on it. He has a focus, and a man who has such a focus can be nothing but successful.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:45 PM
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22. Al Gore's Second Life
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 08:48 PM by RestoreGore
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0703030139mar03,0,4204419.story?coll=chi-newsopinion-hed

Another good article that shows his appearance this Wednesday to be that of a man who no longer lives by pretense. Of course as always the 2000 election is mentioned as a loss when it was not. However, the jist of this article is correct: He is a winner in every way that matters in regards to character.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:17 AM
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23. I also wanted to make one comment about Inhofe and Barton
They are political hacks who are exactly the kind of men who cannot look past their own prejudices to see the bigger picture regarding this planet. That is why I did not mention them in this OP. They simply at this point are not worth my time. They think Mr. Gore did this because he has political aspirations and is only using this crisis to that end. That to me is the biggest insult of all and shows their own stupidity on this topic. What they did was purely for political and personal reasons, although, their performances did do one good service in illustrating the kind of ignorance we must overcome to have a future.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:12 PM
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28. Gore is nothing if not courageous.
He also has the complete resume including intelligence, self-deprecating wit and prescience.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:05 PM
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31. That's not a resume, that's character
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 10:05 PM by RestoreGore
And it transcends any title.
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