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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:41 PM
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 02:32 PM by Time for change
Michael Connell, the IT consultant who died in a plane crash last Friday, shortly before he was due to testify in federal court regarding his alleged role in tampering with the 2004 Ohio presidential election results, brings to mind the death of Raymond Lemme.

Because of the similarities between Lemmes and Connells connection to the 2004 Presidential election, I think that people trying to figure out the cause of Connells death would do well to consider the death of Raymond Lemme. Therefore, Im reposting my 2005 DU post on the death of Raymond Lemme, with some minor revisions to make it more current:


The Significance of the Death of Raymond Lemme to the 2004 Election

There is very good reason to believe that Raymond Lemme (who was barely mentioned by our corporate news media, if mentioned at all) had information shortly before his death, in July 2003, in a Valdosta, Georgia motel room, that could have blown open the plans of George W. Bush and his handlers to win the 2004 Presidential election. To evaluate this connection we should start with a brief summary of the unsolved mysteries surrounding Bushs victory in Ohio, which everyone knew well before Election Day would almost certainly be necessary for a Bush Electoral College victory.


Brief summary of unsolved mysteries surrounding Bushs Ohio victory

Here is a brief description of some of the most important unexplained irregularities noted in Ohio on Election Day.

The Warren County lockdown
The infamous Warren County lockdown occurred shortly before the polls closed in Warren County, when Warren County election officials locked reporters out of the building while they counted the votes, justifying this action on the basis of a national security alert involving a terrorist threat. The FBI later denied issuing such an alert.

Other than the above mentioned facts, there are many other ominous circumstances surrounding this event, as pointed out by fellow DUer Farmbo in his post: 1) The incident, which apparently involves a federal felony, has never been seriously investigated either by any news organization, by the state of Ohio, or by federal investigators; 2) The lockdown was planned in advance; 3) Just prior to this event, Ohio seemed to be safely in Kerrys column; 4) According to a U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) report, Ohios statewide tabulation network was highly vulnerable to hacking.

Huge inconsistencies in voter registration figures
There were huge inconsistencies between NY Times articles which indicated that the rate of new Democratic voter registration in Ohio was ten times the rate of new Republican voter registration, compared to official Secretary of State figures that showed no advantage in Democratic over Republican voter registration. An explanation for this strange finding is detailed in this report, which notes that 165,000 voters were electronically purged, apparently illegally, in Cuyahoga County alone, and that this purging may have been targeted at Democratic voters. Further explanation comes from Mark Crispin Millers book, Fooled again How the Right Stole the 2004 Election, & Why Theyll Steal the Next One Too (Unless we Stop them), in which Miller describes the targeted purging of Democratic Ohio voters following break-ins at Democratic Party headquarters in Summit and Lucas Counties, Ohio, in which computers were the only things that were stolen. (For a more detailed description of the Democratic voter purging, see this post.)

Late addition of votes to Miami County
The late addition of 19,000 votes from Miami County, after 100% of precincts had reported, resulted in a net addition to Bushs vote margin of 6,000 votes.

Electronic vote switching
Reports by voters of electronic switching of their votes from one candidate to another, favored Bush over Kerry by a ratio of 12 to 1, and were nine times more frequent in swing states (especially Florida, Ohio, and New Mexico) than in other states.

Withholding of voting machines in Franklin County
The withholding of voting machines from Democratic precincts in Franklin County, resulting in voting lines which were several hours long, with the subsequent leaving of those lines without voting by tens of thousands of voters, was calculated to result in a net advantage to Bush of about 7,000 net votes.

Failure to do a full hand recount
Numerous Ohio counties did everything they could to avoid doing a full recount, even after a recount was mandated by court order, so that when it all ended, only one county in the whole state had been fully recounted. In order to accomplish this, numerous violations of Ohios recount rules were perpetrated, including: At least 17 counties where the recount was chosen by Ohio election officials rather than randomly; at least 6 counties where tampering with the tabulating machines by voting machine company technicians was noted, including a case in Hocking County where the technician actually gave the election officials a cheat sheet, with instructions on how to make the counts match (The whistle blower of this felony, Sherole Eaton, was subsequently fired from her job); and, at least 6 counties for which, even when it turned out that the vote totals didnt match, election officials still refused to do the required recount. Two Cuyahoga County election workers were later convicted of manipulating the 2004 Presidential election recount.


The testimony of Clint Curtis

In October 2000 Clint Curtis was a computer programmer and a life-long Republican who worked for the Florida based Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI). According to Curtis sworn testimony to House Judiciary Committee Democrats in December 2004, while working for YEI he wrote a prototype for a computer program that would switch votes from one candidate to another, at the request of Congressman Tom Feeney (R-FL) in October of 2000. Believing at the time that the purpose of Feeneys request was to better understand how Democrats might plan to commit election fraud, Curtis complied with the request and wrote the program and presented it to his employer, Mrs. Li Woan Yang. According to Curtis sworn affidavit:

She immediately responded, You dont understand, in order to get the contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This program is needed to control the vote in south Florida.

(Curtis continues)

I was shocked that they were trying to steal the election and told her that neither I nor anyone else could produce any such program. She stated that she would hand in what I produced to Feeney and left the room with the software.

Please note that when Curtis said that neither he nor anyone else could produce "any such program" he meant that nobody could produce such a program that was undetectable. But since the public has not been allowed access to the "proprietary" software codes used to count our votes, the question of whether or not a computer program to switch votes from one candidate to another was detectable turns out not to matter so much. And that is the reason why Curtis was able to offer the opinion that he believed that the 2004 election was rigged using a program similar to the one that he wrote.

I had the privilege of meeting Mr. Curtis in January 2004, when we were both invited by Justice Through Music to participate in a small group to lobby Senators to object to the Ohio Presidential Election on January 6th. Curtis had gotten the idea to contact Justice Through Music because they were offering a $200,000 reward for anyone who could prove that the 2004 election had been stolen. However, Curtis was not interested in the money, nor did he accept any money in return for his information or testimony. Curtis told me that he believed the murder of his dog represented a threat from those who feared his testimony.

Skeptics have pointed out to me and others that Yang Enterprises did not receive any contracts to run elections in 2004 and that there is no proof that Curtis programs were used to rig the election. True enough. But I ask them to consider three things: Firstly, of the unsolved mysteries of Bushs Ohio victory that I listed above, item numbers 2 and 4 appear to have involved electronic vote rigging, and item numbers 1, 3 and 6 seem very suspicious in that regard. Furthermore, Curtis said in his sworn testimony that he was told by his employer that his program was specifically needed to control the vote in South Florida. In fact, it was from south Florida where 48% of all voter complaints in the country of electronic vote switching that favored Bush were reported to the national Electronic Incident Reporting System (EIRS). And secondly and thirdly, we need to consider the circumstances and events surrounding Tom Feeney and Raymond Lemme.


Tom Feeney

At the time that Feeney asked Curtis to write the vote switching program Feeney was simultaneously a Florida legislator (soon to become Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives) and a registered lobbyist for YEI.

Those of you followed the Florida 2000 election with great interest might remember that Feeney played a VERY prominent role in Bushs victory in that election. For it was Feeney, not the U.S. Supreme Court or Bushs lawyers, who first came up with the idea (or threat) of taking the 2004 Florida Presidential election out of the hands of the voters. It was Feeney who first put forth the argument that Article II of our Constitution gives the right to state legislatures to determine the winner of their states electors. And it was Feeney, as Speaker of Floridas House of Representatives, who threatened to use that power to nullify a Gore victory if a recount of the votes resulted in Gore being declared the winner. And it was precisely this argument of Feeneys that the U.S. Supreme Court was to use a few days later to hand Bush the Presidency.

What I am trying to imply here is that it is not plausible to believe that Feeneys interest in vote switching programs was limited to his association with YEI. And while it is true that we do not know that the specific prototype that Curtis wrote was actually used to rig the 2004 election, Feeneys asking Curtis to write such a program is evidence of high level Republican interest in stealing the election.


The death of Raymond Lemme

Raymond Lemme was the official from the Florida Inspector Generals Office who was charged with investigating Curtis allegations. In his affidavit, Curtis describes a June 2003 meeting with Lemme, where Lemme told Curtis that he (Lemme) had tracked the corruption all the way to the top, and that the story would break shortly.

But we will probably never know what explosive information Lemme had obtained, for he was found dead in a Valdosta, Georgia, Knights Inn motel room two weeks later, July 1, 2003. His arm was slashed twice with a razor blade, near the left elbow. The Brad Blog has thoroughly investigated this case and put forth several reasons to believe that Lemmes death was not suicide, as has been ruled by the Valdosta police:

In the first place, nobody knows why Lemme was in Georgia, about 80 miles north of Tallahassee, where he lived and worked. No autopsy was performed, whereas had the death occurred in Florida, an autopsy would have been required.

Secondly, motel receipts are not consistent with the rest of the story. There is an unsigned check-in receipt dated June 29, 2003, and a signed check-out receipt dated June 30, 2003, 6:54 a.m. Yet Lemme was found dead in the hotel on July 1, the day AFTER he apparently checked out. The police claim that the check-out date on the receipt is wrong, and ascribe the incorrect date to machine error, but refused to provide additional detail on that.

Thirdly, there are mysteries surrounding and inconsistencies between the photographs of the scene of the crime and the police report. The initial police report stated: "a defect in the camera flash memory cards resulted in no usable photographs. Photographs will not be submitted with this report." Yet good quality photographs of the crime scene, some showing Lemme in the bath tub where he is said to have killed himself, and which were previously said not to have existed, later showed up. The legitimacy of the photographs was confirmed by the Valdosta police.

An official report by Detective Shannon Floyd states that there was no sign of foul play, and that there was no blood on the towel on which a black belt (apparently used as a tourniquet) was found. Yet, the pictures clearly show blood on the towel and severe bruising on the right side of Lemmes neck.

When Brad Blog attempted to talk with Detective Floyd about her inconsistent findings, he was told that she no longer works for the Department, and the police refused to tell him how he could reach her.

Fourthly, after re-opening the case (late 04 or early 05), the case was quickly closed after the Valdosta police talked with the Florida Department of Transportation. The Valdosta police refused to comment on why the Florida DOT should have a say in when they close a death investigation in Georgia.

And lastly, Lemmes work colleagues and family all agree that there were no previous indications that Lemme wanted to die.


Summary

In summary, there are several unsolved (not to mention uninvestigated) mysteries surrounding Bushs Ohio victory, many which suggest the possibility or likelihood of electronic vote rigging (and the Edison-Mitofsky exit poll showed Kerry with a 4.2% victory over Bush in Ohio.) Clint Curtis has provided sworn testimony to Congress that he wrote a computer program, at the request of a Republican operative (Tom Feeney), which was capable of rigging the 2004 election, and which he believes was in fact used to rig the 2004 election. The man charged with investigating Curtis allegations appeared to be on the verge of verifying his allegations and tracking them all the way to the top. And then he died under highly suspicious circumstances, and the investigation into his alleged suicide was quickly squelched.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:07 PM
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1. Kick!
:kick:
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:22 PM
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2. Kicking!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:46 PM
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3. K & R for excellence nt
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:59 PM
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4. Kick and Rec
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:51 PM
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5. K&R !! /nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:56 PM
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6. Excellent post.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 03:57 PM by BrklynLiberal
I pointed to your post yesterday in reference to Connell's death

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:47 PM
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9. Thank you
It's great to see someone remember my post after all this time.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:57 PM
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7. The k and the r
fer sure
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:30 PM
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8. K&R!
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Ysabela Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:24 PM
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10. k&r n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 07:51 PM
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11. Karl Rove on election night, 2004
This is from "Machiavelli's Shadow -- The Rise and Fall of Karl Rove":

On Election Day... Rove began to get early exit poll numbers by telephone, and they were not good. According to what Rove was seeing, Kerry was going to win in a landslide. While Rove was initially upset, according to published reports, he felt reassured... (yada yada yada)... Rove took to e-mailing key Republicans, telling them not to believe the exit polls...

At the White House that evening, Rove continued to crunch numbers. Bush had 30 friends and family members over... Rove giving them updates from downstairs in what he called his "bat cave", and old dining room that had been turned into a "war room" for the evening... Around 10:30, Rove determined that Bush would win both Florida and Ohio, meaning that he would win re-election. At 12:45, the Fox News Network and NBC announced that Bush had won Ohio...

Here's a picture of Rove in his "bat cave" on Election night -- from bleever's journal:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bleever/34

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:00 PM
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15. you know who is siting next to him?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 03:34 AM
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22. Yes
I read about that in bleever's post.

Thank you for all the work you've done on this.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 10:46 AM
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25. sure:)
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:03 PM
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12. Good Lord. K&R
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:40 PM
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13. Impressive. One for the archives.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:59 PM
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14. Please x-post this in Election Reform, so we have everything in one place.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 09:01 PM by tbyg52
And other similar things, please!

:kick:

Edited for inevitable stupid typo.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:18 PM
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17. Ok, I did it. Thank you.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:01 PM
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16. Thanks for your post. You may want to check out my post on the Connell plane crash here
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 10:19 AM
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24. Thank you for the article
It's rather depressing that our corporate media has been so silent about this. Individual celebrity murders with no national significance whatever sometimes occupy the news for months on end, but Connell's murder is virtually censored. I guess they just feel the need to "protect" the American people from any hint that we should fear the powerful.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:27 PM
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18. The credit card processing is infallible.
It's that simple.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:29 PM
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19. K&R n/t
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 12:00 AM
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20. K&R and- they are directly related to the same chain of people
who either wound up in jail (Siegelman)or wound up dead (Lemme, Connell) - and there are many others- who wound up dead, missing or in jail during this era of Rove and BushCo, Thom Hartmann read the list the other day on his show. All of these people had a common thread-they were able to connect the dots and were about to blow the whistle. It's not an accident and it's terrifying,. Not surprising of course, since this is the group that believes they don't have to follow any rules- a little torture here, a little "accidental" murder there, whatever it takes.

They may have lost their external power for the moment, but they are very much still in existence and if we don't hold them accountable they will continue to do what they do. And trust me- in 2012, or soon afterwords, by the time Jeb Bush is ready to run for office, they will do whatever it takes to put him into power. If we become complacent and forget who these people are and how they've systematically destroyed our democracy and shredded our constitution these past few years, we will have wasted the amazing opportunity that is before us.

It's up to us folks -- and we need everyone to be on board with this please-- HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 11:46 AM
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26. I'm pretty sure you're right about that
One of the very worst things about our Congress was its utter failure to hold the Bush administration accountable for their crimes -- or even try to. That is likely to hold terrible consequences for us.
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AptosDem Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 12:31 PM
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30. Let's not Forget Paul Sanford
Leaving his widow and two children to fend for themselves. Very suspicious suicide by a man who had the guts to mention the word treason at a WH press conference.

http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/paul-sanf... /

His question to Scotty Re: Treason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muAWbT628V8
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 12:51 PM
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31. Here are some more
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Not just in the OP, but several of the posters had some good examples, including the women who filed rape charges against Bush.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 01:22 AM
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21. "Liberals & Progressives have an odd way of disappearing ...
Edited on Thu Dec-25-08 01:22 AM by defendandprotect
or being eliminated in America."

Europeans

Are Americans the only ones who don't understand that --???
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 12:12 PM
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28. Lone Nut
And the lone nut goes for Liberals, oddly and always to the benefit of the Reactionary Reich.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 01:13 PM
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32. Is that an actual quote?
I'd be very interested to know where you got that from.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 06:20 PM
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36. It's old . . . generally, what Europeans said 20 years or more ago. . .
I have 34 journals or more --- somewhere in there is the answer -- and sometimes I

actually find what I'm looking for!

But the quote is fairly accurate.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:14 PM
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42. Well, it certainly is easy to believe
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 05:41 AM
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23. k&r
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 11:51 AM
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27. K & R
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 12:16 PM
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29. K&R
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 01:26 PM
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33. The link to the Brad Blog article on Lemme is not working today -- It worked yesterday
But today, it appears that the Brad Blog website is shut down. I can't access it at all.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 05:49 PM
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34. I was able to get into the site...I will have to check your link as well.
Edited on Thu Dec-25-08 05:53 PM by BrklynLiberal
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6772

Blogged by Brad Friedman on 12/24/2008 12:31PM
Where's the MSM Coverage of the Death of Connell, a Top Bush/Rove/GOP Operative?
CBS/AP jumps in with good coverage, McClatchy not so much
And other odds and ends of note...

Yesterday, "Mediabloodhound" Brad Jacobson (an occassional guest contributor to The BRAD BLOG) covered the coverage, noting the curious lack thereof, in the corporate mainstream, of the death of Mike Connell, the longtime top Bush/Rove/McCain IT consultant.
<snip>




I was able to get in thru your links..

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1048
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3024
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:14 PM
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41. Great -- It's back up running again. Thank you.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 06:20 PM
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35. This is real & only a fool would believe otherwise - No mainstream media will touch it! So...
Edited on Thu Dec-25-08 07:15 PM by LaPera
it too will pass and the republicans will get away with another one, another killing, so many already, and so many we are not even aware of as well.

If one has the capacity & knowledge first hand to expose the republicans money & power schemes - ones life is in danger of being destroyed...a life means nothing to these people...they still sleep well at night, their lies and deadly secrets do not bother them they are cold-blooded republicans..

Who thinks for a moment that say, an evil republican fuck like Dick Cheney would ever worry about killing anyone, or someones else death....shit, Cheney loves torture just for the fun of it...and there are millions of republicans just like Cheney, Bush, Rove, that care only for themselves, and can't feel anyone else pain...or death, it's just not emotions that mean anything to them, they are not capable, they are dulled after so many years of doing it for personal gain, it becomes a pleasure for them to to kill and see death they created for fun & profit...money & power are the ONLY things that can stir any real emotion in them.

It's why it will always be an uphill battle against this horrific republican slime...they'll do everything & anything necessary to make sure the money continues to flow in their direction, especially our tax dollars, (the easiest of all money for lifetime cold-blooded republican criminals & killers to get their hands on).

Republicans certainly don't want to see all those trillions of dollars every year wasted away helping the tax payers or the poor or middle class....so they come up with wars to make money for their corporations, bailouts, subsidies, tax loop-holes anything but don't give it to the workers...bankrupt the system, the government, steal everything, every bit of the workers tax dollars...steal what's not even there and put the country in eleven trillion dollars in debt.

However, it takes stealing elections to accomplish these crimes....And for the shameless republicans to get into office republicans they must lie, cheat and steal which doesn't matter to a soulless republican. But, if anyone knows their secrets and can indeed put them away for life...well those people's lives are not worth a nickel...because "accidents" do indeed happen, ever day and that's what the the republican slime count on ...the fools, believing every word the republicans (and their media) toss out at them as truth & logical and the fools go out of their ways to believe them...because they can't handle not being in control and frightened to death of the real truth!

Such fools!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 06:28 PM
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37. Yesterday, I watched "It's A Wonderful Life!" again after a few years ....
the father is so wonderful in his descriptions of Potter -- "souless" --

Amazing how so many of those movies have held up -- and how much we didn't

listen to them!

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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 09:00 PM
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38. Sounds like another Wellstone crash
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 11:32 PM
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39. Athan Gibbs, the late inventor of the Verified Voting machine
Mr. Lemme's tragic death represents the most significant evidence for treason.
He was from the Florida Inspector General's Office and he winds up dead and the government says, "Suicide."
Tell me these aren't evil people, despite what my eyes and ears tell me.

A guy who invented a practical solution for verfied voting perished in what was reported as a horrible accident.
Again, what do my eyes and ears tell me?

Remember Athan Gibbs



Death of a patriot: No more

By Bob Fitrakis
March 17, 2004

The subject line on yesterdays email read: Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives. The attached news story briefly described the untimely Friday, March 12th death of perhaps Americas most influential advocate of a verified voting paper trail in the era of touch screen computer voting. Gibbs, an accountant for more than 30 years and the inventor of the TruVote system, died when his vehicle collided with an 18-wheeled truck which rolled his Chevy Blazer several times and forced it over the highway retaining wall where it came to rest on its roof.

Coincidence theorists will simply dismiss the death of Gibbs as a tragic accident the same conclusion these coincidence theorists came to when anti-nuclear activist Karen Silkwood died in November 1974 when her car struck a concrete embankment en route to a meeting with New York Times reporter David Burnham. Prominent independent investigators concluded that Silkwoods car was hit from behind and forced off the road. Silkwood was reportedly carrying documents that would expose illegal activities at the Kerr-McGee nuclear fuel plant. The FBI report found that she fell asleep at the wheel after overdosing on Quaaludes and that there never were any such files. A journalist secretly employed by the FBI, and a veteran of the Bureaus COINTELPRO operation against political activists, provided testimony for the FBI report.

Gibbs death bears heightened scrutiny because of the way he lived his life after the 2000 Florida election debacle. I interviewed Athan Gibbs in January of this year. Ive been an accountant, an auditor, for more than thirty years. Electronic voting machines that dont supply a paper trail go against every principle of accounting and auditing thats being taught in American business schools, he insisted.

SNIP...

Gibbs TruVote machine is a marvel. After voters touch the screen, a paper ballot prints out under plexiglass and once the voter compares it to his actual vote and approves it, the ballot drops into a lockbox and is issued a numbered receipt. The voters receipt allows the track his particular vote to make sure that it was transferred from the polling place to the election tabulation center.

My encounter with Gibbs led to a cover story in the Columbus Free Press March-April issue, entitled, Diebold, electronic voting and the vast right-wing conspiracy. The thesis I advanced in the Free Press article is that some of the same right-wing individuals who backed the CIAs covert actions and overthrowing of democratic elections in the Third World in the 1980s are now involved in privatized touch screen voting. Additionally I co-wrote an article with Harvey Wasserman that was posted at MotherJones.com on March 5, 2004. Both articles outlined ties between far right elements of the Republican Party and Diebold and ES&S, which count the majority of the nations electronic votes.

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http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/853



We the People owe a lot to Athan Gibbs and Raymond Lemme.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:13 PM
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40. I didn't know about that one. Thank you.
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43. Hustler Finally Runs Raymond Lemme / Clint Curtis Photos
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 01:29 PM
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44. The aristocracy has been doing this for thousands of years. Why would we be surprised?
History is replete with assassinations of enemies of the powerful and the nobility. Many noble families maintained their power by suppressing any form of dissent or any inkling of insurrection. Sometimes it was done openly and violently, but often it was done quietly--a "hunting accident", a sudden illness ( brought on by poison), an unfortunate fall, the list goes on.

One would think that we peasants would get the message and just STFU, but democracies have a strange habit of making lowly citizens think they ought to have a say in how they are governed.

The men and women who have spoken up against this regime and the military-industrial complex and died were brave souls and heroes of America.

It has long puzzled me that some of the harshest critics are allowed to live and speak out, while others--usually the truly dangerous expert witnesses--die sudden, unexpected, often mysterious deaths. But I've come to the conclusion that as long as the powers-that-be allow some vocal dissenters to live they can label them as kooks, nuts, conspiracy theorists, or eccentrics, and the rest of us will allow ourselves to be lead blindly along.

Thank you Time for change and all the others who have posted on this subject and who have provided links to other American heroes who have died in the line of duty attempting to defend our democracy.

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